Why do you believe in God?

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Peter Parka said:
I only trust people for a reason.
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We live in an imperfect world. Nothing in life is perfect. There is no perfect system, no perfect government, no perfect church, no perfect person, no perfect anything. There is something wrong with everything. I don't want to burst your bubble, but that includes you and me. There is some disadvantage in every climate. There are some weeds in every garden. There is some fault in every friend. There are some rough spots in every road.

I realize this and I am able to love and forgive others more fully because I know ahead of time people are going to let me down. And I know I am going to let others down. Some of their behaviors will get on my nerves and some of my behaviors will get on their nerves.

I have learned to look past many faults and see the heart of others. Instead of constantly being arrogant and critical even though I see other's faults, I choose to focus on their heart instead. This enables me to sincerely be hospitable, loving, and forgiving toward others; even those that normally I would not be.

We are not trustworthy creatures. We even deceive ourselves.

I trust God. I love others.
 
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luc154 said:
God is just in all His ways. You don't know that because you don't know Him.
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So there's some reason that allowing innocent animals to be abused is just and i just can't see it because I'm a stupid human? If anyone else has an answer to this, please let me know! I would be very interested in hearing an explanation.
 
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GraceAbounds said:
We live in an imperfect world. Nothing in life is perfect. There is no perfect system, no perfect government, no perfect church, no perfect person, no perfect anything. There is something wrong with everything. I don't want to burst your bubble, but that includes you and me. There is some disadvantage in every climate. There are some weeds in every garden. There is some fault in every friend. There are some rough spots in every road.

I realize this and I am able to love and forgive others more fully because I know ahead of time people are going to let me down. And I know I am going to let others down. Some of their behaviors will get on my nerves and some of my behaviors will get on their nerves.

I have learned to look past many faults and see the heart of others. Instead of constantly being arrogant and critical even though I see other's faults, I choose to focus on their heart instead. This enables me to sincerely be hospitable, loving, and forgiving toward others; even those that normally I would not be.

We are not trustworthy creatures. We even deceive ourselves.

I trust God. I love others.
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That's fair enough Grace but the kind of god luc is describing sounds a nasty piece of work to me, far nastier than any of my friends and what makes it worse is that apparently he is perfect.
 
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pladecalvo said:
It doesn't matter how many times you give an answer to my questions....I am not under any obligation to accept your answer as the ultimate authority on the matter. If I disagree with you I will continue to debate you. That, as you well know, is how it works. Check through the thread and see how many Christians have disagreed with or ignored my answers to them...I don't see you criticising them. I don't demand that Christians accept my answers, why do you demand that I accept yours. Perhaps you would be kind enough to explain why I should accept your answers without question.
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Actually, yes you do. You appealed to the knowledge and expertise of Christians to answer a question about why Christians believe the way they do. Several answers have been given.


You are only here to stir the pot. You don't care, nor do you intend to listen to, what the Christians tell you. I cannot remember where it says it, but the bible does say go out into all the world and preach the good news. It also says don't waste time on people who ask questions not to learn, but just to ask questions.
 
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Peter Parka said:
That's fair enough Grace but the kind of god luc is describing sounds a nasty piece of work to me, far nastier than any of my friends and what makes it worse is that apparently he is perfect.
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Really? Why does the God that luc is describing sound like a nasty soul to you? What has he said that sounds so horrible?

btw, Good morning to you Peter! Haven't seen/spoke with you in a week or so.
 
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GraceAbounds said:
Really? Why does the God that luc is describing sound like a nasty soul to you? What has he said that sounds so horrible?

btw, Good morning to you Peter! Haven't seen/spoke with you in a week or so.
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He kills people for sins that others committed.

And good to see you again too Grace.;)
 
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Peter Parka said:
He kills people for sins that others committed.

And good to see you again too Grace.;)
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I'll have to see the context in which luc posted that before I can comment.
But as of this far, everything that I have seen luc post has been in line with the Word.

sidenote: I hope you are doing much better regarding the loss of your friend. You have been in my thoughts and prayers in that regard.
 
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Cheers, getting there yeah, funeral is next Friday so hopefully it will get a bit easier after that. Anyway, better not spam offtopic anymore and back to the subject...
 
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luc154 said:
It's hard to put into words. God makes you complete in the fullest sense of the word. Your inner longings are satisfied. God gives you true peace, love, patience, fullfilment, happiness.
Not a peace, love, patience, happiness of this world
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.Would not Muslims and Hindus make the same claim for their gods?

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Actually, yes you do. You appealed to the knowledge and expertise of Christians to answer a question about why Christians believe the way they do. Several answers have been given.
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So if I asked you why the sky was blue and you told me that it was the result of fairies sprinkling the sky with blue fairy dust every morning....I'm expected to accept it?


You are only here to stir the pot. You don't care, nor do you intend to listen to, what the Christians tell you.
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As I've previously said, it is not wise to presume the intentions of others that you don't even know.

I cannot remember where it says it, but the bible does say go out into all the world and preach the good news. It also says don't waste time on people who ask questions not to learn, but just to ask questions.
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Then don't waste your time in responding to my posts.
 
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but in reality my faith has once again come into question... at this moment i cannot say thatI have faith on anything but myself.

I was raised catholic by my family but honestly I see nothing to seriously direct my faith towards anyone at this moment, is it a moment that will in time pass? I hope so and will I ever be comfortable saying that I do have faith and belief on any certain religion? I definitely hope so.

but for the time being that Im sad to say is not the case.

Nothing against those of you that feel a certain closeness.
 
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luc154 said:
If their gods would be existent then I wouldn't believe Jesus anymore. Then the Lord Jesus would be a liar because He said that He is the absolute truth.
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there is just as much proof for theirs as yours, i.e. nothing solid. You are just lacking in faith.:D
 
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