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Oh, and heres a link to some video i made a few days ago. its just of my warrior dueling on PTR, i think its 5 minutes long. Nothng really edited, just for the guys i arena with.

i plan on making an actual pvp video in the coming weeks.

MEGAVIDEO - I'm watching it
 
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Get quest helper. It pretty much takes the whole "where the fuck am i going" out of the game. Unless youre into that kind of stuff, then dont get it.

And as a rogue, arcane torrent isnt super amazing. You already have kick, kidney shot, cheap shot, garrote, gouge, blind and potentially deadly throw to stop spell casting as is. The additional silence is only really good on BoP'd (Its an old acronymn for blessing of protection, but the spell is now named "hand of protection", its a paladin spell that makes you immune to phys damage for 10 seconds, but prevents phys abilities. gives 2 min forbearance, 5 min cd without talnets) targets. The energy gain from arcane torrent isnt super needed either. Will of the Forsaken adds a ton of pvp robustability since rogues are extremely prone to fear. orcs are also very good because of their pve damage racials. but if youre into cosmetics, thats your call. i think that blood elves are overplayed though for sure, gotta reprsent the femtaurs.

My rogue is part of a raiding guild. I'm not trying to be SUPER PVP TOURNAMENT GUY!!!!! So arcane torrent helps me force multiple casters into melee in an instance. It comes in handy. If I was building a pvp toon it would be a human pally or dk. I could care less if blood elves are over played. Alot of people own corvettes, that doesnt stop me from wanting one too.

On a side note, there isnt anything really great about a tauren's racial passives. They get what extra health and warstomp? I can get the health from gear, armor kits or enchantments and eff warstomp when you have the earthbind totem. If I was going to be a pvp caster I would go with a troll due to berzerking and regeneration. Thats just me though.
 

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My rogue is part of a raiding guild. I'm not trying to be SUPER PVP TOURNAMENT GUY!!!!! So arcane torrent helps me force multiple casters into melee in an instance. It comes in handy. If I was building a pvp toon it would be a human pally or dk. I could care less if blood elves are over played. Alot of people own corvettes, that doesnt stop me from wanting one too.

On a side note, there isnt anything really great about a tauren's racial passives. They get what extra health and warstomp? I can get the health from gear, armor kits or enchantments and eff warstomp when you have the earthbind totem. If I was going to be a pvp caster I would go with a troll due to berzerking and regeneration. Thats just me though.

Good choice my shaman is troll and I'm happier than hell with it.

Taurens are so overplayed when it comes down to shamans.
 

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I hated carbonite. Can't really pin point it to just one thing I just didn't like it as a whole. But I've had other friends who loved it and wouldn't use anything else.

One of the best add ons of course is lightheaded and should be used in conjuction with any quest helping addon. Makes it so much easier so you don't have to go look up quests that don't show up for quest helpers.
 

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Good choice my shaman is troll and I'm happier than hell with it.

Taurens are so overplayed when it comes down to shamans.


The most laughable thing about this conversation is, I went from sharing a few pics to having a long winded conversation about my inferior racials. Gotta love WoW players. :clap
 

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My rogue is part of a raiding guild. I'm not trying to be SUPER PVP TOURNAMENT GUY!!!!! So arcane torrent helps me force multiple casters into melee in an instance. It comes in handy. If I was building a pvp toon it would be a human pally or dk. I could care less if blood elves are over played. Alot of people own corvettes, that doesnt stop me from wanting one too.

On a side note, there isnt anything really great about a tauren's racial passives. They get what extra health and warstomp? I can get the health from gear, armor kits or enchantments and eff warstomp when you have the earthbind totem. If I was going to be a pvp caster I would go with a troll due to berzerking and regeneration. Thats just me though.
First off, I have no idea why you are getting so defensive, dont nerd rage over advice. You cant even raid until level 80, and BEs are the worst PvE class in the game. Orcs and trolls are both superior in PvE.

As for Taurens, my shaman was made at 60 for PvP, and my warrior was made at 70. At 60, pvp 1v1 fights typically lasted all of 6-7 seconds, as players had 3-4k HP total. A 2 second stun was extremely good at the time. At 70, my warrior was made as a tauren since the racial was +5% hp. Warriors were one of the few tanks that were decent at the time, and a tauren raid geared/buffed tank had 1000+ more hp than other tanks. You cannot gem, enchant, or gear to get that gain of hp without sacrificing something of value.

Also, I am sure this is going to sound elitist, but your knowledge of the game is not nearly as developed as mine. Firstly, earthbind is an earth totem, meaning it shares a totem slot with tremor and stoneclaw, both useful totems. Secondly, totem is not a stun. It is a 50% snare, dispellable. The totem also has 5 hit points, and a 50% snare is one of the slowest in the game. Warstomp is a stun for 2 seconds on 4 targets. This stun can be used to allow me for a free heal with a melee on me, it can be uesd to interrupt a spell cast, or it can be used in PvE or PvP when I want to stun 2-3 targets hitting a friend. On my warrior, if a rogue evasions, Ill often warstomp and disarm the rogue, as you cannot dodge or parry whle stunned (or if youre behidn the target).

Regeneration for trolls is flat out terrible. It is not good past level 30. Troll zerking is decent, but if you want max PvE damage as horde, an orc is still superior even as a caster, especially a warlock. Voodoo shuffle was added to trolls though, making them have a racial that isnt laughable. As for the BElf silence, youll find that once you hit 80, no casters can melee at all, unless you consider DK abilities or a ret paladin healing himself a caster. Or unless youre meaning in an instance, you use BElf silence, and mobs run into melee range. That is one of thew nice uses of the BElf silence, but honestly, that is only really useful in 5 man instances. Most everything in LK is 10 or 25 man based raids, which is far more enjoyable IMO.

Good choice my shaman is troll and I'm happier than hell with it.

Taurens are so overplayed when it comes down to shamans.
Thats because if you wanted to play a shaman at 60, your choice was troll or tauren. If you chose a troll, you chose wrong. They didn't have voodoo shuffle or zerking at the time.

I suggest carbonite. It's about 10 times better than quest helper and not nearly as much of a resource hog.
I still prefer quest helper, but saying it is 10 times better in either direction is an extreme exaggeration. I know leveling up initially there was quite a few quests lacking on carbonite that was on QH, but there were also reversas of taht too. I still prefer QH, and I think it is easier to mess with the UI/easier to understand as a beginner.

The most laughable thing about this conversation is, I went from sharing a few pics to having a long winded conversation about my inferior racials. Gotta love WoW players. :clap
WoW is serious business.
 

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First off, I have no idea why you are getting so defensive, dont nerd rage over advice. You cant even raid until level 80, and BEs are the worst PvE class in the game. Orcs and trolls are both superior in PvE.

As for Taurens, my shaman was made at 60 for PvP, and my warrior was made at 70. At 60, pvp 1v1 fights typically lasted all of 6-7 seconds, as players had 3-4k HP total. A 2 second stun was extremely good at the time. At 70, my warrior was made as a tauren since the racial was +5% hp. Warriors were one of the few tanks that were decent at the time, and a tauren raid geared/buffed tank had 1000+ more hp than other tanks. You cannot gem, enchant, or gear to get that gain of hp without sacrificing something of value.

Also, I am sure this is going to sound elitist, but your knowledge of the game is not nearly as developed as mine. Firstly, earthbind is an earth totem, meaning it shares a totem slot with tremor and stoneclaw, both useful totems. Secondly, totem is not a stun. It is a 50% snare, dispellable. The totem also has 5 hit points, and a 50% snare is one of the slowest in the game. Warstomp is a stun for 2 seconds on 4 targets. This stun can be used to allow me for a free heal with a melee on me, it can be uesd to interrupt a spell cast, or it can be used in PvE or PvP when I want to stun 2-3 targets hitting a friend. On my warrior, if a rogue evasions, Ill often warstomp and disarm the rogue, as you cannot dodge or parry whle stunned (or if youre behidn the target).

Regeneration for trolls is flat out terrible. It is not good past level 30. Troll zerking is decent, but if you want max PvE damage as horde, an orc is still superior even as a caster, especially a warlock. Voodoo shuffle was added to trolls though, making them have a racial that isnt laughable. As for the BElf silence, youll find that once you hit 80, no casters can melee at all, unless you consider DK abilities or a ret paladin healing himself a caster. Or unless youre meaning in an instance, you use BElf silence, and mobs run into melee range. That is one of thew nice uses of the BElf silence, but honestly, that is only really useful in 5 man instances. Most everything in LK is 10 or 25 man based raids, which is far more enjoyable IMO.


Thats because if you wanted to play a shaman at 60, your choice was troll or tauren. If you chose a troll, you chose wrong. They didn't have voodoo shuffle or zerking at the time.


I still prefer quest helper, but saying it is 10 times better in either direction is an extreme exaggeration. I know leveling up initially there was quite a few quests lacking on carbonite that was on QH, but there were also reversas of taht too. I still prefer QH, and I think it is easier to mess with the UI/easier to understand as a beginner.


WoW is serious business.

Don't go off on him about nerd rage your the one going all out on giving him info when he didn't ask for it.
And I didn't play until BC. And I made the right choice because it's what I wanted. There is no right and wrong in playing a game the way you will enjoy it.
 

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My experience with qhelper was that it was lacking some quests or the information was incorrect. I didn't find as many errors in carbonite. In a game where FPS is everything carbonite is better IMO, but to each his own.
I lvled my first toon all the way to 70 without any addons, but only because I didn't know much better lol. Now I always use addons.
 

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My experience with qhelper was that it was lacking some quests or the information was incorrect. I didn't find as many errors in carbonite. In a game where FPS is everything carbonite is better IMO, but to each his own.
I lvled my first toon all the way to 70 without any addons, but only because I didn't know much better lol. Now I always use addons.

HAHA yea I can't play that game without addons. I'd go insane.
 

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First off, I have no idea why you are getting so defensive, dont nerd rage over advice. You cant even raid until level 80, and BEs are the worst PvE class in the game. Orcs and trolls are both superior in PvE.

As for Taurens, my shaman was made at 60 for PvP, and my warrior was made at 70. At 60, pvp 1v1 fights typically lasted all of 6-7 seconds, as players had 3-4k HP total. A 2 second stun was extremely good at the time. At 70, my warrior was made as a tauren since the racial was +5% hp. Warriors were one of the few tanks that were decent at the time, and a tauren raid geared/buffed tank had 1000+ more hp than other tanks. You cannot gem, enchant, or gear to get that gain of hp without sacrificing something of value.

Also, I am sure this is going to sound elitist, but your knowledge of the game is not nearly as developed as mine. Firstly, earthbind is an earth totem, meaning it shares a totem slot with tremor and stoneclaw, both useful totems. Secondly, totem is not a stun. It is a 50% snare, dispellable. The totem also has 5 hit points, and a 50% snare is one of the slowest in the game. Warstomp is a stun for 2 seconds on 4 targets. This stun can be used to allow me for a free heal with a melee on me, it can be uesd to interrupt a spell cast, or it can be used in PvE or PvP when I want to stun 2-3 targets hitting a friend. On my warrior, if a rogue evasions, Ill often warstomp and disarm the rogue, as you cannot dodge or parry whle stunned (or if youre behidn the target).

Regeneration for trolls is flat out terrible. It is not good past level 30. Troll zerking is decent, but if you want max PvE damage as horde, an orc is still superior even as a caster, especially a warlock. Voodoo shuffle was added to trolls though, making them have a racial that isnt laughable. As for the BElf silence, youll find that once you hit 80, no casters can melee at all, unless you consider DK abilities or a ret paladin healing himself a caster. Or unless youre meaning in an instance, you use BElf silence, and mobs run into melee range. That is one of thew nice uses of the BElf silence, but honestly, that is only really useful in 5 man instances. Most everything in LK is 10 or 25 man based raids, which is far more enjoyable IMO.


Thats because if you wanted to play a shaman at 60, your choice was troll or tauren. If you chose a troll, you chose wrong. They didn't have voodoo shuffle or zerking at the time.


I still prefer quest helper, but saying it is 10 times better in either direction is an extreme exaggeration. I know leveling up initially there was quite a few quests lacking on carbonite that was on QH, but there were also reversas of taht too. I still prefer QH, and I think it is easier to mess with the UI/easier to understand as a beginner.


WoW is serious business.

lol Nerd rage? I was just talking to you. Dont get your panties in a twist because you have inferior racials. :24:

Trust me, you sound more like a virgin than an elitist. ;)
 

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lol Nerd rage? I was just talking to you. Dont get your panties in a twist because you have inferior racials. :24:

Trust me, you sound more like a virgin than an elitist. ;)
Im not the one spamming full blissful caps for no reasn other than anger. Also, drawing the real life card on, especially the virgin card, is probably the most original insult I have ever heard! Oh wait. As for my long post of useless information, I am pretty sure I was writing it to respond to your posts, which is more or less the purpose of a forum, but correct me if I am mistaken. If you want to get mad at my post, go ahead and spend your time how you want :)

Anyways, addons are pretty simple. Download whatever from curse-gaming or any ace/wowinterface site, extract the zip into your wow folder, into the sub-files of interface->addons. Then, when you log on, ensure the addon is selected, and if its out of date, you allow out of date addons to be ran.
 

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Im not the one spamming full blissful caps for no reasn other than anger. Also, drawing the real life card on, especially the virgin card, is probably the most original insult I have ever heard! Oh wait. As for my long post of useless information, I am pretty sure I was writing it to respond to your posts, which is more or less the purpose of a forum, but correct me if I am mistaken. If you want to get mad at my post, go ahead and spend your time how you want :)

Anyways, addons are pretty simple. Download whatever from curse-gaming or any ace/wowinterface site, extract the zip into your wow folder, into the sub-files of interface->addons. Then, when you log on, ensure the addon is selected, and if its out of date, you allow out of date addons to be ran.


Must have been true cause you're reaaaaally upset right now. :24:

And no, I didnt ask for any information buddy. Just wanted to share some screenshots. Read the fucking thread smarty pants. ;)
 

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The not so popular version of the cripple fight....

!!!BEHOLD!!!

!!!!NERD FIGHT!!!!

lol

I used to play wow before WotLK came out but quite since I couldn't be as hardcore as I once was. I ran a 70 Healy/Arena Priest and a 70 farmer hunter. I ran on Uldum (PVE) server forever, but just lost the fun I used to have with the game when I couldn't be as hardcore as I once was.

I now just play random shooter games but mostly just work and hang out with friends now...weird how after I quit WoW those things seemed to get better for me :p
 

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Must have been true cause you're reaaaaally upset right now. :24:

And no, I didnt ask for any information buddy. Just wanted to share some screenshots. Read the fucking thread smarty pants. ;)
Im actually not upset, I thnk its funny that you nerd rage full caps and then try to say I am the angry one. I spend enough time playing WoW not to get upset when someone resorts to real life insults. In fact, I usually laugh at them for resorting to something like the real life card to justify one answer or another. Either way, Im done bickering with you. You can post some cool post about my sexual experience, obesity, or other amazingly witty real life insults if you want, because the more you use, the more cool they become.

So anyways, I got heroic glory of the raider
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Im actually not upset, I thnk its funny that you nerd rage full caps and then try to say I am the angry one. I spend enough time playing WoW not to get upset when someone resorts to real life insults. In fact, I usually laugh at them for resorting to something like the real life card to justify one answer or another. Either way, Im done bickering with you. You can post some cool post about my sexual experience, obesity, or other amazingly witty real life insults if you want, because the more you use, the more cool they become.

So anyways, I got heroic glory of the raider
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lol Yeah I'm done bickering with you myself. But here's a good way to squash this. We obviously dont get along when talking about wow. So hows about you just let me talk about wow and do my thing and you do yours and we'll just let bygons be bygons.

Grats on the mount.
 

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I don't think I've ever nerd raged in the 80 levels I've been playing.
My shaman is a sexy female drainei btw ooololololololololo
 
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