What is your attitude to gays and lesbians?

[The Doc]

You don't believe the bible is a religious book? Funny that becaus only religious people follow it. Will give you at least partial credit though for not being hypocritical unlike a lot of christians. The bible is clearly homophobic so if you claim to follow it, you should be a homophobe too.

I do believe it is. The bible does no say to be Homophobic, it just says that being homosexual is wrong but you should nontheless love them as humanbeings regardless. Trust me, long before i became a christian or even opened my first bible... I dislike them long before.

 

[Peter Parka]

I do believe it is. The bible does no say to be Homophobic, it just says that being homosexual is wrong but you should nontheless love them as humanbeings regardless. Trust me, long before i became a christian or even opened my first bible... I dislike them long before.

Not sure where you get that idea from, prehaps you should actually read a book before blindly following it

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Homosexuals are to get less than straight people and are considered on the same level as theives, clear homophobia whichever way you want to try and twist it.

 

[The Doc]

Though their Deed's are sin, God still loves them nonetheless because they are His creation, and we are not to judge or despise them unless we want to be judged. Its not our job to judge, its God's. Its the basic biblical principles. Heres a link to support it.

http://www.theology.edu/diatribes/diatribe04.htm

But really, cant i just dislike gays because I dont like them? I mean the bible really has nothing todo with it. Is it really that hard to believe?

 

[Peter Parka]

You can dislike who you want, none of my business. When you come on a public internet forum spewing hatred for people because of unchangable things about themselves you make yourself look stupid and also a bit of a pussy. I'd like to see you walking through the middle of San Francisco shouting your views on gay people as vocally as you do here. Somehow I think you would be too scared to.

 

[Guyzerr]

Peter when are you going to get the message that Doc doesn't like gays and it's his right. You keep beating the same dead horse and spouting your beliefs and he doesn't slam you so how about treating him with the same amount of respect.

 

[Peter Parka]

Peter when are you going to get the message that Doc doesn't like gays and it's his right. You keep beating the same dead horse and spouting your beliefs and he doesn't slam you so how about treating him with the same amount of respect.

I have no respect for homophobes which you will respect as you believe it's peoples right to say whatever they think...... or does that just depend on whether they agree with you or not?

 

[Guyzerr]

I have no respect for homophobes which you will respect as you believe it's peoples right to say whatever they think...... or does that just depend on whether they agree with you or not?

You can say whatever you want but hear me loud and clear. You are beating the same dead horse and have been for ages. You won't change his belief any sooner than he'll change yours so what's the purpose in continually trying to incite him? I know you're trying to portray yourself as the knight in shining armor but in reality you're just coming across as a netbully.

 

[Peter Parka]

I'm a bully because I don't think people should be bullied because of their sexuality? ROFL!

 

[Guyzerr]

I'm a bully because I don't think people should be bullied because of their sexuality? ROFL!

He's never said gays should be bullied. That's just something you assume when someone doesn't agree with the homosexual lifestyle. Quit living in a dreamworld.

 

[Peter Parka]

The fact you call it a lifestyle shows your ignorance. I'm going to stop debating with you now (yeah, yeah, you can say ooh it's because you lost all you want) the fact is that you would argue the sky is the centre of gravity rather that admit when you are wrong and will just keep on digging and digging a deeper hole for yourself. Frankly it's pointless. I'd rather just admire you great photography which is the strong point you bring to this forum rather than highlight your weak points (lack of knowledge in arguments) on this forum. Have a good night and hope to see more of your great photographs, especially the eagles, the're my favourite. :thumbup

 

[Guyzerr]

The fact you call it a lifestyle shows your ignorance. I'm going to stop debating with you now (yeah, yeah, you can say ooh it's because you lost all you want) the fact is that you would argue the sky is the centre of gravity rather that admit when you are wrong and will just keep on digging and digging a deeper hole for yourself. Frankly it's pointless. I'd rather just admire you great photography which is the strong point you bring to this forum rather than highlight your weak points (lack of knowledge in arguments) on this forum. Have a good night and hope to see more of your great photographs, especially the eagles, the're my favourite. :thumbup

There you go again Peter. Always putting words in peoples mouths or making assumptions based or your beliefs. Just once in your life admit that your ideals are not for everyone. Once you do that you'll feel a hell of a lot better about being alive.


As far as photography is concerned I haven't posted much here in the last few months. It's a lot more fun to pop in and watch some regulars make an ass out of themselves.

 

[retro]

Just once in your life admit that your ideals are not for everyone. Once you do that you'll feel a hell of a lot better about being alive.

It's a pretty sad world that we live in when the "ideals" of tolerance ad acceptance aren't for everyone. I feel sorry for the people that dislike others based on things that they have no control over. Disliking someone because they're gay makes about as much sense in civilized society as disliking someone because they're overweight, have red hair, or brown skin.

 

[Peter Parka]

It's a pretty sad world that we live in when the "ideals" of tolerance ad acceptance aren't for everyone. I feel sorry for the people that dislike others based on things that they have no control over. Disliking someone because they're gay makes about as much sense in civilized society as disliking someone because they're overweight, have red hair, or brown skin.

Pretty much agree with this though I'd say intollerance of gay people is even less logical that intollerance of overweight people. Unless they have medical or pychological conditions, fat people have chosen to be that way through their lifestyle choice whereas gay people haven't.

 

[retro]

Pretty much agree with this though I'd say intollerance of gay people is even less logical that intollerance of overweight people. Unless they have medical or pychological conditions, fat people have chosen to be that way through their lifestyle choice whereas gay people haven't.

I used that example for the people that say homosexuality is a choice.

 

[Peter Parka]

I used that example for the people that say homosexuality is a choice.

People who after analzing the evidence, still feel homosexuality is a choice are beyond rationalatiy.

 

[porterjack]

People who after analzing the evidence, still feel homosexuality is a choice are beyond rationalatiy.

freudian slip quoted for the hell of it

 

[Peter Parka]

Ok you got me there! :24::24::24:

 

[Guyzerr]

Pretty much agree with this though I'd say intollerance of gay people is even less logical that intollerance of overweight people. Unless they have medical or pychological conditions, fat people have chosen to be that way through their lifestyle choice whereas gay people haven't.

Peter it seems you like to pick and choose your battles according to the court of public opinion. Instead of being a hypocrite how about telling me why I would feel more comfortable with The Doc in my house rather than someone like yourself that has been arrested for various reasons, stood up in front of a judge on more than one occasion and according to their own admission been convicted of arson and incarcerated because of it at least once. At least The Doc hasn't committed any crime other than to speak his mind.

 

[Guyzerr]

It's a pretty sad world that we live in when the "ideals" of tolerance ad acceptance aren't for everyone. I feel sorry for the people that dislike others based on things that they have no control over. Disliking someone because they're gay makes about as much sense in civilized society as disliking someone because they're overweight, have red hair, or brown skin.

The point I have been trying to make and ya'll fail to see is ... you won't change his mind, you continue to beat a dead horse just for the sake of keeping a fight going but more importantly to put the onus on ya'll to show where he has done any harm other than to speak his mind. Whenever I bring it up the issue is skirted because ya'll just can't do it.

 

[Peter Parka]

Please point out where I have been hypocritical, specifically? :dunno Oh, I see, you're doing the old diversion tactic which is commonly used when someone can't address the issue at hand. Gotcha. :thumbup Oh, just noticed you're trying to get personal, bhwaa! I'm so upset. Actually I've got more than enough friends so one old homophobic fart not wanting to hang out really isn't a problem but I think you're right, you and Doc would make a lovely couple, you could hang out together talking about not touching penises.:thumbup