What I think needs to be done about oversized trucks and SUV's.

[UncleBacon]

I'll stick with what we have going for us now...which in my opinion is better than what the next person has....its not perfect but damn I'm glad I can live free/speak my mind/own things that other people can't own/basically live a better life

 

[IntruderLS1]

You keep asking for "proof" and documentation of where it says we are given the right to own anything. It's in the concept of supply-and-demand. It's in the concept of consumerism. These are well-known aspects of our economy and there are no "rules" written down about rights of purchasing power.

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LMAO. I haven't read much of this thread, but I SOOOO know where you're coming from here Breath. I can't even tell you how many times I've been down this particular road with him. I'd tell you to save your breath, ... lol, but I'd be a hypocrite if I did.

FWIW, You're spot on with free markets and Supply and Demand being the answer. Good show.

"rights of purchasing power" Oh brother AEF. What have you gone and stepped into now?:wtf:

 

[HisHoliness]

communism...a great idea on paper that would make everyone equal but will never work because of greed and power hunger

Even Karl Marx said it wouldn't work. Most Marxists seem to overlook that.

 

[UncleBacon]

yeah I was just rambling....

 

[TheOriginalJames]

2006 Hyundai elantra. it gets around 33-34 MPG.

and do you keep this car in tip top running condition? Have you checked your spark plugs, wires, fuel pump? Do you make quick trips to the gas station? To the store? Are all of your trips longer than 10 miles?

Do you have a family of +5 that you tow around? Do you honestly believe a smaller car would cut it for that job?

 

[Peter Parka]

33-34mpg is pretty poor for a new car! I used to get 40mpg out of my leaky old VW Polo.

 

[IntruderLS1]

I get 25-30 out of my 400 horse power Camaro. :rock

 

[IntruderLS1]

and do you keep this car in tip top running condition? Have you checked your spark plugs, wires, fuel pump? Do you make quick trips to the gas station? To the store? Are all of your trips longer than 10 miles?

Don't worry James. It's all in his plan dude. AEF wouldn't just throw an idea out there without thinking it through all the way.

He obviously knows that SUV's are bad. He has undeniable PROOF that they murder Earth. ... Therefore, there is only one answer possible, and it's the one that he came up with.

Errr.

 

[All Else Failed]

You do realize that this form of governance has been prooven to fail right?

except thats not communism at all.

 

[All Else Failed]

Even Karl Marx said it wouldn't work. Most Marxists seem to overlook that.

Thats because Marxism and communism are two different things.

 

[All Else Failed]

and do you keep this car in tip top running condition? Have you checked your spark plugs, wires, fuel pump? Do you make quick trips to the gas station? To the store? Are all of your trips longer than 10 miles?

Do you have a family of +5 that you tow around? Do you honestly believe a smaller car would cut it for that job?

Yes? :confused


Its responsible car maintenance.


If i had a family of five I would just buy a minivan.

 

[All Else Failed]

Don't worry James. It's all in his plan dude. AEF wouldn't just throw an idea out there without thinking it through all the way.

He obviously knows that SUV's are bad. He has undeniable PROOF that they murder Earth. ... Therefore, there is only one answer possible, and it's the one that he came up with.

Errr.

no its common sense. Bigger engines normally ----->use more gas---->burn it off at a more expedient rate--->thus more pollution---->lends to the natural process of global warming.

 

[IntruderLS1]

except thats not communism at all.

You read Communism when I didn't say Communism. It's easy to see how anybody could make that jump though. ... It's more like a slight lean than a jump I suppose.

What about our personal liberties to do whatever the hell we want? I thought you were an Anarchist??

This plan is VERY non-anarchisty.

 

[IntruderLS1]

no its common sense. Bigger engines normally ----->use more gas---->burn it off at a more expedient rate--->thus more pollution---->lends to the natural process of global warming.

That's what I said.

I was just trying to help James out.

He's hooked me up many times in the past. I didn't want him to get stuck looking foolish by not accepting that you've done all your homework, and there is only one answer.

 

[All Else Failed]

You read Communism when I didn't say Communism. It's easy to see how anybody could make that jump though. ... It's more like a slight lean than a jump I suppose.

What about our personal liberties to do whatever the hell we want? I thought you were an Anarchist??

This plan is VERY non-anarchisty.

I'm not an anarchist. I like the concept of it, but it only goes that far. I'm a democratic Socialist at heart. Even under a pure anarchic system you wouldn't be able to just do what the hell you want. People need to understand that anarchism is NOT chaos.

 

[All Else Failed]

That's what I said.

I was just trying to help James out.

He's hooked me up many times in the past. I didn't want him to get stuck looking foolish by not accepting that you've done all your homework, and there is only one answer.

I'm not saying that my ideas are the only answer, there could be many. What I propose is just what I thin its the best and most direct route to solving this problem.

 

[IntruderLS1]

Define chaos.

 

[IntruderLS1]

I'm not saying that my ideas are the only answer, there could be many. What I propose is just what I thin its the best and most direct route to solving this problem.

Okay, I meant "best" answer.

 

[All Else Failed]

Define chaos.

No order (and yes, there is a certain degree of order in even the purest anarchic society), lawlessness etc etc.

 

[IntruderLS1]

No order (and yes, there is a certain degree of order in even the purest anarchic society), lawlessness etc etc.

Indeed there is. It's call the order of the strong if I'm not mistaken. The guy with the most guns and the biggest army wins.

You can't say that guy won't be in this imaginary society, because who's going to stop him?