What I think needs to be done about oversized trucks and SUV's.

[NightWarrior]

So you're saying you have the right to but whatever you want as long as no arbitrary laws say you can't, and thats ok because its not specifically mentioned in the bill of rights, which has nothing to do with consumerism

Welcome to America my friend. You keep saying buying a truck that you don't need. Who says they don't need it? Your not the keeper of the "not needing things" iternary.

 

[All Else Failed]

Welcome to America my friend. You keep saying buying a truck that you don't need. Who says they don't need it? Your not the keeper of the "not needing things" iternary.

I said in great length that people who have a reason to own a truck can. I'm talking about people who buy them for status.

 

[All Else Failed]

Oh, and I could esily say that you owning a vehicle that hogs gas, and pumps exponential levels of emissions into the atmosphere is an infraction on my rights.

 

[Maulds]

This is the most ticky tack, posted just to stir shit thread I've seen here in a years time. As long as my Tahoe passes emissions standards and I'm paying the gas and insurance I'll listen to no shit from anyone on my choice of vehicle.

 

[All Else Failed]

Its not to stir up shit. its just my opinion on them.


How much do you pay at the pump?

 

[Maulds]

I usually fill it up whenever it gets down to half, but its about $25 or so depending. I only drive 3.7 miles to work one way so I'm not doing much in the way of commuting. Running errands and trips out of state we use my wifes car.

But still as little as I drive I'm not "hogging up all the gas". And it isn't coming out of anyones account but my own so if I'm using more per mile than your Hyundai...so what?

 

[All Else Failed]

I usually fill it up whenever it gets down to half, but its about $25 or so depending. I only drive 3.7 miles to work one way so I'm not doing much in the way of commuting. Running errands and trips out of state we use my wifes car.

But still as little as I drive I'm not "hogging up all the gas". And it isn't coming out of anyones account but my own so if I'm using more per mile than your Hyundai...so what?

So you don't need it by any means but to drive it then. You could be doing the same thing with a more gas efficient car that will ultimately cost you less.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Oh, and I could esily say that you owning a vehicle that hogs gas, and pumps exponential levels of emissions into the atmosphere is an infraction on my rights.

Nobody forces you to breathe...

 

[Maulds]

But I use the 4 wheel drive at least once a month in recreation. There are places around here you can't get to without 4 wheel drive...granted its leisure activity but everyone needs a hobby. I'd even argue that thanks to my lift kit I'm a little safer because I have a better vantage point looking down at things. I can definitely see more than looking out of my wifes 300M.

Could I get back and forth to work in a more fuel efficient vehicle...sure. Could you wear cheaper clothes? Certainly. Could millions do without their over-priced Starbucks coffees. Definitely. To make the statement that in your opinion a lot of people needlessly drive bigger vehicles is one thing. To say they shouldn't have that choice just doesn't seem right to me.

 

[groundpounder]

Unholy mother of fuck!

Is it any wonder people think debating AEF is an exercise in futility?! :24:

Freedom of choice. Pursuit of happiness. That sort of bullshit, ya know?

In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

etcetera, etcetera :smiley24:​

Is it our priviledge to have the right to drive what we want, or is it our right to have the priviledge to drive what we want?​

WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK, AEF?! :cool​

 

[groundpounder]

Its not to stir up shit. its just my opinion on them.

Oh, of course! :smiley24:

The shit only gets stirred when the other opinions don't jive. It's such a cliche at this point.

 

[Peter Parka]

Small; voice - Erm... I give a flying fuck about our environment which our children will have to live in.

 

[groundpounder]

Small; voice - Erm... I give a flying fuck about our environment which our children will have to live in.

me, too, which is why I plant trees like a crazy motherfucker. I know for a fact in the last month I have personally been attached to the planting of 136 trees.

This Saturday, I will be in charge of overseeing and planting 164 more. Trees are good for the environment.

What I was referring to about giving a flying fuck is the inanity of AEF arguing about rights versus priviledges. It's fucking stupid. :smiley24: :confused

Stay up, Petey. This is some serious internets bidness. :unsure: :ninja

 

[All Else Failed]

me, too, which is why I plant trees like a crazy motherfucker. I know for a fact in the last month I have personally been attached to the planting of 136 trees.

This Saturday, I will be in charge of overseeing and planting 164 more. Trees are good for the environment.

What I was referring to about giving a flying fuck is the inanity of AEF arguing about rights versus priviledges. It's fucking stupid. :smiley24: :confused

Stay up, Petey. This is some serious internets bidness. :unsure: :ninja

Well thats very nice of you, I'm serious about that. I planted a few trees on my property last year, it nice.


But yeah, its going to take a lot more trees to reverse what is already in motion, if it can be reavearsed at all.

 

[sundvlfn88]

What I like is this and I am be sarcastic. Now mind you I do own a large truck, but I use mine for hauling horses. Like I was saying it seems everyone buys them to keep up with the other person next to them. It is almost like a vehicle trend or fad. But what really gets me is they don't know how to drive or park these things.

 

[All Else Failed]

What I like is this and I am be sarcastic. Now mind you I do own a large truck, but I use mine for hauling horses. Like I was saying it seems everyone buys them to keep up with the other person next to them. It is almost like a vehicle trend or fad. But what really gets me is they don't know how to drive or park these things.

Well, you have a reason to own one then, you have large animals that require that power.

Much of these vehicles are trends and are obviously designed to be flashy.

 

[GraceAbounds]

I wish my family could fit into a vehicle that got a gajillion miles to the gallon.

 

[All Else Failed]

I wish my family could fit into a vehicle that got a gajillion miles to the gallon.

How many kids do you have? Two?

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Well, you have a reason to own one then, you have large animals that require that power.

Much of these vehicles are trends and are obviously designed to be flashy.

While I agree with this to an extent. Do you have any research of your own that backs up your opinion? "Trends" and "flashy" mean different things to different people.

I plan on buying a truck and making it my daily driver, only difference is I'll only need a 4 banger ranger, or S10, etc. However, those still sit taller and use more gas than a 4 banger car.

People buy (pickup) trucks for utility. Whether its intermittent use or everyday use. Larger SUVs like the Expedition, Explorer, etc... I don't enjoy being behind in my car, and don't see the point of just like you.

However, if the owner knows how to drive. They do WONDERS in 12" snow falls that my car would simply get stuck in.

 

[All Else Failed]

While I agree with this to an extent. Do you have any research of your own that backs up your opinion? "Trends" and "flashy" mean different things to different people.

I plan on buying a truck and making it my daily driver, only difference is I'll only need a 4 banger ranger, or S10, etc. However, those still sit taller and use more gas than a 4 banger car.

People buy (pickup) trucks for utility. Whether its intermittent use or everyday use. Larger SUVs like the Expedition, Explorer, etc... I don't enjoy being behind in my car, and don't see the point of just like you.

However, if the owner knows how to drive. They do WONDERS in 12" snow falls that my car would simply get stuck in.

You just have to look at how humans operate. We are a social animal. Look at other fads and trends. People buy into them like there's no tomorrow when they become popular in order to feel "important" or one of the heard. its common sociology. Lets say low riders became popular among celebrities, ODDS ARE they will slowly become more popular with other people when they see the wealthy drive them because they are associated with glamor and money.