What I think needs to be done about oversized trucks and SUV's.

[Peter Parka]

Its a privilege to drive, not to own whatever you want. I did understand your proposal. Taking away someone's choice to drive what they want is, well un-American. Since when is owning a Vehicle a privilege?

I kind of agree with you. Like I've already said, I have no problem with people driving these if they want to. I just think they should pay more tax ect for it because of the more polution the're causing by it. Unfortunately because of corrupt government, this will probably go toward building another nuke or something!

 

[TheOriginalJames]

That van will still get better MPG than an unloaded heavy truck/SUV.

*Sounds the buzzer*

Sorry, no it doesn't.

My brother has a 96 Astro 4.3L V6 van as a work truck. 13-16 mpg.

I had a 99 Windstar 3.0L V6, 17-20 mpg.

I don't like Hummers, but I see no problems with 'soccer moms' driving pickup trucks, because pickup trucks are versatile vehicles which can be used to haul things.

What I don't get is, do you think that everytime the mom or whoever takes their truck out they should be hauling something to be able to drive it or what? They bought a pickup because it will come in handy every now and then.

 

[groundpounder]

For someone who quotes freedom of speech quite often, you seem to want to take peoples rights to choose what vehicle they want to drive. Get over it, man. If I want to drive a dumpster with wheels, so be it as long as it is legally able to....

Aye-motherfuckin-men :clap

2003 modified Mach 1 Mustang - 360ish HP at the crank, prolly run a high 12 second quarter mile, loudern fuck, fun to drive daily, pig on ice in the snow, can't haul shit or shinola: 20/25 mpg city/highway, tank after tank after tank

2004 Mercury minivan - drive the kids around, get groceries, DVD player, long trips are nice, smooth driver, slightly posh. Can't haul more than 8-10 bags of groceries with all the kids in it, can't get the dogs to the vet in it, no trailer hitch: 14/18 mpg city/highway all day long no matter how you drive it.

1998 Land Rover Discovery - The Mule, pulls like an ox, leather seats, sun roof(s), AWD, walks through the snow, pulls the boat, 16' trailer to the dump or recycle center , drop the seats and take the dogs to the vet, mulch for all the trees I plant (I'm chair of a tree hugging committee): 12-16 mpg

I don't drive a hybrid Prius because I have no use for it, no lifestyle room for it, and I don't squat when I pee.

If this doesn't set well, then I invite anyone to suck my left nut because it hangs a little lower.

 

[groundpounder]

But a van can.

I'll respond to your link later.

Really? Cool! Be sure to give me it's towing capacity and stuff. You might be on to something.

And I posted that link to pre-emptively for those who may clamor "SUV'S ARE SAFER!!!!"

No, they're not.

 

[Mrs Behavin]

I'll just keep my mouth shut and wait for someone whom I knows that drives a big rig to come on and state their opinion on this matter

 

[TheOriginalJames]

and I don't squat when I pee.

Liar. :ninja

But I agree with everything I deleted.

 

[groundpounder]

Liar. :ninja

But I agree with everything I deleted.

I only squat when I need to take a James.

 

[HisHoliness]

GP, you got 20/25 mpg out of your Mustang? Do you only drive on the highway or something? All the v8's I've ever driven get anywhere from 7-15 mpg in mixed driving. Granted, a lot of them are carbureted. And the 02 z06 gets 11.2 mpg according to the dash. Those MPG stickers are not to be trusted. There is no such thing as a fuel efficient v8.

 

[NightWarrior]

Really? Cool! Be sure to give me it's towing capacity and stuff. You might be on to something.

And I posted that link to pre-emptively for those who may clamor "SUV'S ARE SAFER!!!!"

No, they're not.

Interesting. I'd still rather be in my Suburban if I get rear ended by a Prius. Because if I was in the Cobra, lets just say it would be safer for the Prius owner that way. I'd also rather be in my Suburban if I was T-boned by a Soccer mom in her mini-van.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

GP, you got 20/25 mpg out of your Mustang? Do you only drive on the highway or something? All the v8's I've ever driven get anywhere from 7-15 mpg in mixed driving. Granted, a lot of them are carbureted. And the 02 z06 gets 11.2 mpg according to the dash. Those MPG stickers are not to be trusted. There is no such thing as a fuel efficient v8.

The dash readouts are merely estimates, and will lower/raise during braking/acceleration because of the ball in the tank and the gas sloshing around.

 

[NightWarrior]

GP, you got 20/25 mpg out of your Mustang? Do you only drive on the highway or something? All the v8's I've ever driven get anywhere from 7-15 mpg in mixed driving. Granted, a lot of them are carbureted. And the 02 z06 gets 11.2 mpg according to the dash. Those MPG stickers are not to be trusted. There is no such thing as a fuel efficient v8.

I guess you haven't been keeping up with technology? There are cars that shut off half the cylinders on the highway to maintain gas mileage. I doubt your dashboard is correct in calculating gas mileage as well. I understand what you mean about the MPG stickers, but I'm 100% sure that GP is smart enough to calculate his own gas mileage. I mean, if you reset your trip odometer after fill up, drive xxx amount of miles, then fill up your car, then take the number of miles driven by what you just filled into your tank, you get a reasonable close MPG. Its not rocket science.

On my cross country trip, with my modified Cobra making ~600 rwhp to the WHEELS, I averaged 22 MPG and that was with the cruise set at 84 thru the states that had a 75 MPH speed limit, which was SD, Montana and Idaho.

 

[HisHoliness]

In the one month period where I was driving that car, I remember spending a lot of time at the gas pump. Also, for fun I tried to see how high I could get the dash readout to go. Never revving over 2,500 rpm and no more than 1/4 throttle for an entire gas tank, I got 12.9 mpg.

 

[Peter Parka]

12.9 mpg is pretty bad. I used to drive an old banger and that got 40 to the gallon despite spewing oil everywhere!

 

[HisHoliness]

I guess you haven't been keeping up with technology? There are cars that shut off half the cylinders on the highway to maintain gas mileage. I doubt your dashboard is correct in calculating gas mileage as well. I understand what you mean about the MPG stickers, but I'm 100% sure that GP is smart enough to calculate his own gas mileage. I mean, if you reset your trip odometer after fill up, drive xxx amount of miles, then fill up your car, then take the number of miles driven by what you just filled into your tank, you get a reasonable close MPG. Its not rocket science.

On my cross country trip, with my modified Cobra making ~600 rwhp to the WHEELS, I averaged 22 MPG and that was with the cruise set at 84 thru the states that had a 75 MPH speed limit, which was SD, Montana and Idaho.

My mother has a Chrysler 300c with that feature. But it's almost worthless in Hawaii, since it's mostly city driving, where all cylinders are firing. I couldn't see myself daily driving a v8 over here. I'm spoiled by my car.

 

[NightWarrior]

In the one month period where I was driving that car, I remember spending a lot of time at the gas pump. Also, for fun I tried to see how high I could get the dash readout to go. Never revving over 2,500 rpm and no more than 1/4 throttle for an entire gas tank, I got 12.9 mpg.

Well, I have a good friend who has an '02 Z-06 (he was my original mod tester to see if I improved ) was averaging anywhere between 24-28MPG in his. I don't know how he calculated though, but he's an Engineer, so I'm sure he wasn't just quoting BS.

 

[HisHoliness]

Well, I wasn't very scientific about it. I was too busy enjoying it.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

In the one month period where I was driving that car, I remember spending a lot of time at the gas pump. Also, for fun I tried to see how high I could get the dash readout to go. Never revving over 2,500 rpm and no more than 1/4 throttle for an entire gas tank, I got 12.9 mpg.

.... I would like to see your driving style. 2500 rpm shifting doesn't mean anything. You could floor it and shift that early every time, either that or you had malfunctioning equipment such as an O2 in that car.

 

[HisHoliness]

I mentioned throttle position. Also, if the 02 sensor is bad, it was bad from the factory, because the readout always hovered around 11.2.

 

[Peter Parka]

This is far too technical for my brain, I'm abandoning ship while I can!:willy_nilly:

 

[NightWarrior]

I think we all whored this one up, lets get back on topic.