LMAO ...Just cuz I go to school am a teenager??? ...LMAO an ignorant one too? I spew bullshit? LMAO..U making my toes laugh. I been spewing bullshit for a long while now in here. The correct phrase is 'cut and crap asshole'
Were 9/11 detainee's children tortured by insects?
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I could have gotten behind that because that is something savages understand..
But this asinine, pansy bs makes me want to puke. It has been proven there are pictures out there of kids being raped in front of their parents. I mean to tell you that is a dark spot on our Once-Great nation that will take forever to erase. Done w/my tax dollars. It freaking sucks and those that have ordered all this shit should be tried for War Crimes. Period.
We are supposed to be better than that. Period.
They hate us for our freedoms? That is so old & tired. Torturing innocent children, young people and adults makes 'terrorists' of them and their families. Wouldn't you be pissed? I know damn well I would.
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p.s. gee, do my sentiments now make me a possible terrorist? Because I want accountability from my government? KMA!
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Oh that's right you have an in w/Daddy Bush.... Good to know she's got enough sense to know the difference between a terrorist and a pissed off tax-payer.
Can she do anything about vote fraud? Since we now know it is a real problem.
You're probably better off that way.:thumbup
Abu Ghraib's Suppressed Rape, Abuse Photos
The Obama administration has often promised a more open and less secretive presidency, but on May 28 Obama was again on both sides of the issue by trying to suppress in court Abu Ghraib pictures depicting abuse and rape of detainees in the war on terror. It doesn’t matter that the genie is already out of the bottle, as British newspapers have already published descriptions of the photos depicting female and homosexual rape. More.............
The Obama administration has often promised a more open and less secretive presidency, but on May 28 Obama was again on both sides of the issue by trying to suppress in court Abu Ghraib pictures depicting abuse and rape of detainees in the war on terror. It doesn’t matter that the genie is already out of the bottle, as British newspapers have already published descriptions of the photos depicting female and homosexual rape. More.............
I totally lost all my respect for USA which used to be a great nation. I think its all in the blood. Now here is another latest story.
Ex-soldier apologizes to Iraqi family for raping, killing
(CNN) -- A U.S. soldier convicted of murdering an Iraqi family spoke out for the first time Thursday, issuing a public apology for his crimes.
Steven Green, who escaped the death penalty this month, told relatives of the victims that he is "truly sorry for what I did in Iraq."
"I helped to destroy a family and end the lives of four of my fellow human beings, and I wish that I could take it back, but I cannot," Green said, reading a statement at a victim impact hearing. "And, as inadequate as this apology is, it is all I can give you."
The family refused to accept the apology.
Green was found guilty in U.S. District Court in Kentucky of raping a 14-year-old girl and murdering her, her parents and her 6-year-old sister in the town of Yusufiya, about 20 miles south of Baghdad, in 2006.
A jury could not reach a unanimous decision on the death penalty, which means the judge is required under law to impose a sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Green will be sentenced September 4, but the victim impact hearing was held Thursday so surviving members of the al-Janabi family could testify before they return to Iraq.
They decried Green's sentence and testified about how the heinous crime had shattered their lives and how it will haunt them always.
Green said that he knows "you wish I was dead, and I do not hold that against you. If I was in your place, I am convinced beyond any doubt that I would feel the same way."
He added, "I know that I have done evil, and I fear that the wrath of the Lord will come upon me on that day. But, I hope that you and your family at least can find some comfort in God's justice."
The wailing family matriarch, Hajia al-Janabi, lunged at Green as she left the witness stand, denouncing him as a coward, a criminal and a stigma on the United States, according to Louisville's Courier-Journal newspaper.
Security officers restrained the distressed woman, the newspaper said.
Another family member, Mahdi al-Janabi, said Green had lost the ability to distinguish between terrorists and Iraqi civilians.
Green was tried in a civilian court in Paducah, Kentucky, because he had been discharged from the Army by the time his crimes surfaced.
He was the last of five soldiers who served in the 101st Airborne Division, based at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, to be convicted for the crimes and their subsequent cover-up.
The others -- Spec. James Barker, Sgt. Paul Cortez, Pfc. Jesse Spielman and Pfc. Bryan Howard -- received sentences ranging from 27 months to 110 years, with the possibility of parole in 10 years in the most severe cases.
Green said he now sees the Iraq war as "intrinsically evil, because killing is intrinsically evil."
He was sorry, he said, that he ever had anything to do with either.
Ex-soldier apologizes to Iraqi family for raping, killing
(CNN) -- A U.S. soldier convicted of murdering an Iraqi family spoke out for the first time Thursday, issuing a public apology for his crimes.
Steven Green, who escaped the death penalty this month, told relatives of the victims that he is "truly sorry for what I did in Iraq."
"I helped to destroy a family and end the lives of four of my fellow human beings, and I wish that I could take it back, but I cannot," Green said, reading a statement at a victim impact hearing. "And, as inadequate as this apology is, it is all I can give you."
The family refused to accept the apology.
Green was found guilty in U.S. District Court in Kentucky of raping a 14-year-old girl and murdering her, her parents and her 6-year-old sister in the town of Yusufiya, about 20 miles south of Baghdad, in 2006.
A jury could not reach a unanimous decision on the death penalty, which means the judge is required under law to impose a sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Green will be sentenced September 4, but the victim impact hearing was held Thursday so surviving members of the al-Janabi family could testify before they return to Iraq.
They decried Green's sentence and testified about how the heinous crime had shattered their lives and how it will haunt them always.
Green said that he knows "you wish I was dead, and I do not hold that against you. If I was in your place, I am convinced beyond any doubt that I would feel the same way."
He added, "I know that I have done evil, and I fear that the wrath of the Lord will come upon me on that day. But, I hope that you and your family at least can find some comfort in God's justice."
The wailing family matriarch, Hajia al-Janabi, lunged at Green as she left the witness stand, denouncing him as a coward, a criminal and a stigma on the United States, according to Louisville's Courier-Journal newspaper.
Security officers restrained the distressed woman, the newspaper said.
Another family member, Mahdi al-Janabi, said Green had lost the ability to distinguish between terrorists and Iraqi civilians.
Green was tried in a civilian court in Paducah, Kentucky, because he had been discharged from the Army by the time his crimes surfaced.
He was the last of five soldiers who served in the 101st Airborne Division, based at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, to be convicted for the crimes and their subsequent cover-up.
The others -- Spec. James Barker, Sgt. Paul Cortez, Pfc. Jesse Spielman and Pfc. Bryan Howard -- received sentences ranging from 27 months to 110 years, with the possibility of parole in 10 years in the most severe cases.
Green said he now sees the Iraq war as "intrinsically evil, because killing is intrinsically evil."
He was sorry, he said, that he ever had anything to do with either.
Published on Thursday, May 28, 2009 by The Telegraph/UK
Abu Ghraib Abuse Photos 'Show Rape'
Photographs of alleged prisoner abuse which Barack Obama is attempting to censor include images of apparent rape and sexual abuse, it has emerged. More.............
Abu Ghraib Abuse Photos 'Show Rape'
Photographs of alleged prisoner abuse which Barack Obama is attempting to censor include images of apparent rape and sexual abuse, it has emerged. More.............
Minor Axis
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Should the U.S. release these photos while turning a new chapter on world relations or should they keep them covered up as to not bring more negative attention to the U.S.? It's a valid exercise in weighing the pros and cons. I'm undecided but I'm so happy that W has given us this choice to make. :smiley24:
I guess that depends on if charges will be filed? It would be the only way to bring real accountability to the world stage.
Since I doubt that will happen - I think Spain caved too?? - I can see why they don't want them to get out. On the flip we American Taxpayers should be seeing exactly what is being done in our name and with our tax dollars. Which we know our msm treats us like mushrooms. Oh the stories that are printed outside the US. Yet some people believe we have fair & balanced news here:24::24::24:
*where is it...... :horse
USA: Where Torture is Legal but Cruelty to Animals is a Crime. :wtf:
Source: The New York Times
The Value in Showing the Photos of Torture
To the Editor:
Re “The Abu Ghraib We Cannot See” (Op-Ed, May 24):
Philip Gourevitch writes that the suppressed prisoner abuse photos wouldn’t tell us anything we don’t already know. He is wrong. Recently released legal memos elucidate the Bush administration’s torture policies, but as long as the photos are being suppressed, the public will not know the full horror of the policies’ consequences.
The claim that photos won’t shed light on official responsibility for the abuse is also wrong. The infamous Abu Ghraib photograph of Pvt. Lynddie England dragging a naked prisoner by a leash displays methods that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld authorized for use at Guantánamo Bay. The still-withheld photos would likely expose other links between official policies and the abuse conducted on the ground.
Finally, Mr. Gourevitch is wrong to assume that the photos would be released without necessary context. We have asked the Obama administration to release not only the photos but also the associated investigative files.
The files would allow the public to understand the context in which the photos were taken and also to assess the adequacy of the government’s investigations into the abuse.
Amrit Singh
New York, May 25, 2009
The writer is an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer on the Freedom of Information Act lawsuit in which the release of the photos is sought, and a co-author of “Administration of Torture: A Documentary Record From Washington to Abu Ghraib and Beyond.”
The Value in Showing the Photos of Torture
To the Editor:
Re “The Abu Ghraib We Cannot See” (Op-Ed, May 24):
Philip Gourevitch writes that the suppressed prisoner abuse photos wouldn’t tell us anything we don’t already know. He is wrong. Recently released legal memos elucidate the Bush administration’s torture policies, but as long as the photos are being suppressed, the public will not know the full horror of the policies’ consequences.
The claim that photos won’t shed light on official responsibility for the abuse is also wrong. The infamous Abu Ghraib photograph of Pvt. Lynddie England dragging a naked prisoner by a leash displays methods that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld authorized for use at Guantánamo Bay. The still-withheld photos would likely expose other links between official policies and the abuse conducted on the ground.
Finally, Mr. Gourevitch is wrong to assume that the photos would be released without necessary context. We have asked the Obama administration to release not only the photos but also the associated investigative files.
The files would allow the public to understand the context in which the photos were taken and also to assess the adequacy of the government’s investigations into the abuse.
Amrit Singh
New York, May 25, 2009
The writer is an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer on the Freedom of Information Act lawsuit in which the release of the photos is sought, and a co-author of “Administration of Torture: A Documentary Record From Washington to Abu Ghraib and Beyond.”
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
I doubt you ever had any respect for the US. :nod:Kelvin said:
And by the way the same country you condemn just jailed this guy for life. Guess you forgot that part eh?
Well just being honest as someone who lives outside USA.I doubt you ever had any respect for the US. :nod:
And by the way the same country you condemn just jailed this guy for life. Guess you forgot that part eh?
I doubt you ever had any respect for the US. :nod:
And by the way the same country you condemn just jailed this guy for life. Guess you forgot that part eh?
Let us hope all that ordered all these atrocities are also jailed and held accountable. From the TOP down. Why? Because I respect what our country stands for and it isn't Torture. But excuse me if I don't hold my breath on holding our government accountable for their actions/inactions. It seems passe these days.
Oh wait, not passe, "UnPatriotic".... gmab...
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