Ways to prove God is imaginary

[groundpounder]

lol that website is a joke.

That was HILARIOUS!! :24:

 

[Hans]

There's no way you can possibly know if your prayers were answered or not.


The reason why all cultures have gods is because all humans think alike. Thats why all cultures have their own music, art, and similar beliefs.

Why don't churches pray for money? I mean, god would help his own organization spread his word, right?

You fail at understanding the basics of prayer. Atleast my Catholic sense of the word. I suggest you inform yourself before attempting to correct something you know nothing about. Praying for secular items is not something that my God would care for. Even if it is something I want, I can live without it.

The reason why most cultures have a higher power (most tribal/older religions are polythestic, so saying God is not correct) is so that it can answer burning questions that would otherwise be untold. At the same time, the Bible, Quran, Vedahs, almost every major official texts share very similiar reference, most indiciating a near-extiniction due to a massive flood. I think it was Zen Buddhists that also had that idea of a great flood that almost destroyed their society, and the Abrahamic religions also had the same idea, however, they had not even yet made contact with each other at the time of the origins of the writings.

lol of course God is imaginary, it's hilarious for me to think in this day and age people don't think, "Wait... what ever happened to Zeus?!"

Religion has always been mans way of coping with whatever reality they might face, and there's nothing wrong with that at all. Religion plays an important part in society, morality & spirituality.
So I'm Christian technically, but don't ask me to pray to or fear a higher being... because I think it's bollocks. The last thing anyone needs is to become an ecclesiastical plebian.

Are you honestly trying to compare Zeus to an Abrahamic God? Even if you dont believe in God, that comparison is out of control lol. Also, you are not a Christian if you believe that. As the basis of Christianity is CHRIST. I personally dont have a problem if you dont believe in any God(s) or disagree with a faith, I typically find myself not actuall believing quite a few things that the Catholic faith considers truths, but as a whole, I use it as a moral compass to govern my life to the best of my ability.

 

[Zorak]

Are you honestly trying to compare Zeus to an Abrahamic God? Even if you dont believe in God, that comparison is out of control lol. Also, you are not a Christian if you believe that. As the basis of Christianity is CHRIST. I personally dont have a problem if you dont believe in any God(s) or disagree with a faith, I typically find myself not actuall believing quite a few things that the Catholic faith considers truths, but as a whole, I use it as a moral compass to govern my life to the best of my ability.

My believe in Christ stretches as far that he was a very great man, but he wasn't a deity in my eyes.

So I believe my faith in Christianity is perfectly viable if I still follow Christ's teachings, it's irregardless to me whether or not he was God, the son of God or anything.

I'm not here to judge yours or anyones faith - this is just my interpretation of a religion that I am the first to defend, but also the first to criticize. And as such I will take what I can from Christianity, for my own personal evolution.

 

[Minor Axis]

Right.
Praying for God to cure all cancer.
What would be the point of life and heaven if God cured everything? This life is a place where God tests us and makes us go through hardships to see if we will keep our faith in him. It's in heaven where God cures and makes everything perfect, not here.

Actually I do believe if there is a purpose in life, it is to be challenged, learn something, and possibly become a better entity for it. These people who just pray for the "good life" are not getting the point.

I think there is a very strong possibility that when you get to "heaven" all of your questions may not be answered and everything may not be "perfect". It's a very strong possibility this is just wishful fantasy, just like the muslims who imagine a castle and 70 virgins to pleasure them in the afterlife...

 

[All Else Failed]

You fail at understanding the basics of prayer. Atleast my Catholic sense of the word. I suggest you inform yourself before attempting to correct something you know nothing about. Praying for secular items is not something that my God would care for. Even if it is something I want, I can live without it.

The reason why most cultures have a higher power (most tribal/older religions are polythestic, so saying God is not correct) is so that it can answer burning questions that would otherwise be untold. At the same time, the Bible, Quran, Vedahs, almost every major official texts share very similiar reference, most indiciating a near-extiniction due to a massive flood. I think it was Zen Buddhists that also had that idea of a great flood that almost destroyed their society, and the Abrahamic religions also had the same idea, however, they had not even yet made contact with each other at the time of the origins of the writings.

I was a Catholic for most of my life, and attended a private catholic institution for 7 years. I know what prayer is and what it not is.


The global flood idea is total bunk. Every important and minor geographical piece of evidence says it never happened. What DID happen at varying times in each culture's history is a large local flood that they prescribed to be a "global" one.

 

[Hans]

My believe in Christ stretches as far that he was a very great man, but he wasn't a deity in my eyes.

So I believe my faith in Christianity is perfectly viable if I still follow Christ's teachings, it's irregardless to me whether or not he was God, the son of God or anything.

I'm not here to judge yours or anyones faith - this is just my interpretation of a religion that I am the first to defend, but also the first to criticize. And as such I will take what I can from Christianity, for my own personal evolution.

Im not assualting anything about your faith, but Chirstianity is the teachings of Christ, I cant see how you can follow his model if you dont believe his own teachings, it makes no sense to me.

I was a Catholic for most of my life, and attended a private catholic institution for 7 years. I know what prayer is and what it not is.


The global flood idea is total bunk. Every important and minor geographical piece of evidence says it never happened. What DID happen at varying times in each culture's history is a large local flood that they prescribed to be a "global" one.

Dismissing it as "bunk" is foolhearty, it may or may not be true, it doesnt really bother me one way or the other to be honest.

 

[All Else Failed]

Im not assualting anything about your faith, but Chirstianity is the teachings of Christ, I cant see how you can follow his model if you dont believe his own teachings, it makes no sense to me.


Dismissing it as "bunk" is foolhearty, it may or may not be true, it doesnt really bother me one way or the other to be honest.

Its not foolhardy. Its accepting scientific knowledge that it simply didn't happen.


Well, it should certainly bother you if you're a Christian since it a major event in the bible.

 

[Minor Axis]

Question about Noah's Ark- According to the story were the only animals who survived supposed to be on this arc? And what about people, how many of them were supposed to have survived? I maybe incorrectly recalling that the only ones who survived this flood were on the ark?

 

[Hans]

Its not foolhardy. Its accepting scientific knowledge that it simply didn't happen.


Well, it should certainly bother you if you're a Christian since it a major event in the bible.

No, its because I can show you conflicting stories on a timeline that would prove you wrong, and you could show me evidence saying Im wrong.

Faith.

As for Noah's Ark, I interpret the Bible my own way, and two of every animal will not fit on a boat. I believe that is some sort of a metaphor

 

[Godsloveapples]

Question about Noah's Ark- According to the story were the only animals who survived supposed to be on this arc? And what about people, how many of them were supposed to have survived? I maybe incorrectly recalling that the only ones who survived this flood were on the ark?

Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an

 

[Zorak]

I have a question for people here.

How many of each animal did Noah take into the Ark?

 

[sharpies]

Random thought

(You know I never really thought about it before, but if Noah did take 2 of every animal on the ark with him, just think what that did to the bloodlines of all the Earth's creatures. There would be a distinct point in the mitochondrial DNA of every single species that shows that about 4, 5, 6 thousand years ago all the different species of animals came from one female of that species. That should be really easy to prove with todays science - then we could put this arguement to bed for all time.)

Sorry, get back on topic.

Allan

 

[All Else Failed]

Guys, don't even try to debate with temperamental, its a complete waste of time. Well, unless you want to read bogus websites.

No, its because I can show you conflicting stories on a timeline that would prove you wrong, and you could show me evidence saying Im wrong.

Faith.

As for Noah's Ark, I interpret the Bible my own way, and two of every animal will not fit on a boat. I believe that is some sort of a metaphor

I would love for you to prove me and millions of professionals wrong. Perhaps you could link me to some fundamentalist website that had a nugget of hidden lore that will stump the very best minds in the world.

 

[GraceAbounds]

Guys, don't even try to debate with temperamental, its a complete waste of time. Well, unless you want to read bogus websites.

Your insults are uncalled for. Just because you don't agree with her, you don't need to insult her.

People that don't agree with your reasoning could say the same thing about you and if they did, I'd say the same to them that I am saying to you now.

Your comment seriously disappoints me Ron. I had thought more of you than this.

 

[All Else Failed]

Your insults are uncalled for. Just because you don't agree with her, you don't need to insult her.

People that don't agree with your reasoning could say the same thing about you and if they did, I'd say the same to them that I am saying to you now.

Your comment seriously disappoints me Ron. I had thought more of you than this.

They are not insults, they are fact. You can thrown any amount of real proof at her and she'll hide in her god bubble and link you to fundie websites that are full of bunk science.

 

[GraceAbounds]

They are not insults, they are fact. You can thrown any amount of real proof at her and she'll hide in her god bubble and link you to fundie websites that are full of bunk science.

That is YOUR opinion. You are putting her down because she does not believe the same way as you do. That is WRONG. You are telling other people to not even talk to her. That is harassment and cruel. Didn't your mother ever teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all? Geez Ron.

 

[All Else Failed]

That is YOUR opinion. You are putting her down because she does not believe the same way as you do. That is WRONG. You are telling other people to not even talk to her. That is harassment and cruel. Didn't your mother ever teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all? Geez Ron.

Oh for fucks sake. Whats with this "opinion" stuff on this damn website? ITS SCIENTIFIC FACT. I'm sorry it doesn't mix well with your personal beliefs but thats your loss. Everyone can believe what they want at the end of the day, thats their right. However, there will always be truth, and there will always be everything else.

Its like everyone wants to hold hands on this topic and sing around the camp fire and say "Well, your belief contradicts everything we've ever discovered, but its just as valid because we like to hug and snuggle and accept everything you say!". Wake up.

 

[Obdurate]

Guys, don't even try to debate with All Else Failed, he's a meanie.

 

[All Else Failed]

roar.

 

[Obdurate]

It'd be better with the wolf as your avatar.