Vietnam War: Facts, Stats & Myths

[All Else Failed]

I wouldn't call that a single empire really. They were seperate nations that simply held the same views. By that logic any nation practicing capitalism would be a part of an empire.

 

[HisHoliness]

Ok, I'm gonna try to break this down here.


Intruder posted a pic of the world's largest, most well-known empire governed by the political theory of Communism.





Make sense?

It doesn't prove anything. It only proves the paranoia. So what if a country is large? If you break it down into populated and civilized regions, it's actually quite small. The USSR was never as large as it appeared on the map. But by all means, if that's enough reason for you to fear Communism go for it. People do silly things when they are motivated by fear.

 

[dt3]

It doesn't prove anything. It only proves the paranoia. So what if a country is large? If you break it down into populated and civilized regions, it's actually quite small. The USSR was never as large as it appeared on the map. But by all means, if that's enough reason for you to fear Communism go for it. People do silly things when they are motivated by fear.

Ok, I give up. You're clearly not following the track of this conversation.

 

[GraceAbounds]

One doesn't need to live in fear of communism to know that they don't want to live under a communist government and therefore don't want to see it spread.

 

[IntruderLS1]

I wouldn't call that a single empire really. They were seperate nations that simply held the same views. By that logic any nation practicing capitalism would be a part of an empire.

I guess Rome was never an Empire either. .. Who knew?

It doesn't prove anything. It only proves the paranoia. So what if a country is large? If you break it down into populated and civilized regions, it's actually quite small. The USSR was never as large as it appeared on the map. But by all means, if that's enough reason for you to fear Communism go for it. People do silly things when they are motivated by fear.

There is no such thing as proof when you're speaking theoretically. Some people understand that History is a powerful teacher, and some people think it dosn't matter.

Everybody seems to understand but you. Historically I understand that you can't save 'em all. So again I say to you. Good luck.

 

[HisHoliness]

All I'm saying is that in retrospect, the Domino Theory was unsound. It must have been, since many of these Communist countries are self destructing on their own! We pulled out of Vietnam. It fell to the Communists. The Domino Theory would have us believe that after that fell, the rest of southeast Asia would fall, then Australia, Then Africa, Europe, and finally the US.

That didn't happen. So the theory must have been generated by fear and paranoia. It's difficult to fault the US government, but in hindsight, one can see how they were misguided.

Grace, it's nice that your interest coincide with other countries, but the Domino Theory was about "protecting" Americans from Communism. And may be we needed protection from the Soviet government, but we didn't have to fear their political climate.

Political theories are difficult to inflict on other people, especially when they are unwilling. All you have to do to see a modern example is the US trying to bring Democracy to an area of the world that as of right now is just unfit for it. I would imagine it would be just as difficult to force Communism on other countries, which I believe is what happened in the Eastern bloc of the USSR, precipitating the fall. It had nothing to do with our fighting. It had to do with the fact that most people just don't want Communism.

 

[Peter Parka]

Political theories are difficult to inflict on other people, especially when they are unwilling.

All I'll say to that is Nazism. But I agree though that is a different ball game all together.

 

[GraceAbounds]

All you have to do to see a modern example is the US trying to bring Democracy to an area of the world that as of right now is just unfit for it.

Yet their 'senate judiciary committee' gets more accomplished than ours does. LOL!

 

[IntruderLS1]

Political theories are difficult to inflict on other people, especially when they are unwilling. All you have to do to see a modern example is the US trying to bring Democracy to an area of the world that as of right now is just unfit for it.

You should start a new thread on this one. I know what my first response is going to look like though, so be ready.

 

[All Else Failed]

I guess Rome was never an Empire either. .. Who knew?

There is no such thing as proof when you're speaking theoretically. Some people understand that History is a powerful teacher, and some people think it dosn't matter.

Everybody seems to understand but you. Historically I understand that you can't save 'em all. So again I say to you. Good luck.

No see the roman empire wasn't separate states where they mostly could voluntarily select what kind of economic/political system for themselves. Its true that the romans let the various cultures of each area keep their customs and religion, but when it came down to it, you had to do what Rome said. This wasn't the case in most of the communist run nations. Most of the various communist states didn't even have to answer to the USSR one bit.

 

[All Else Failed]

All I'll say to that is Nazism. But I agree though that is a different ball game all together.

Most of the German people of that era were very willing to accept Nazism. But then again they were pretty much willing for anything to get them out of their shit-hole situation.

 

[IntruderLS1]

No see the roman empire wasn't separate states where they mostly could voluntarily select what kind of economic/political system for themselves. Its true that the romans let the various cultures of each area keep their customs and religion, but when it came down to it, you had to do what Rome said. This wasn't the case in most of the communist run nations. Most of the various communist states didn't even have to answer to the USSR one bit.

True in idea, but not in practice. (Modern or Ancient)

 

[All Else Failed]

True in idea, but not in practice. (Modern or Ancient)

How???

 

[IntruderLS1]

Ugh... Lots of writing. I'll be back to this one later.