Um, did he forget what happened to him?

[FreeWorkVest]

Actually there are many in our military that go through water boarding as part of their training.

No, there are not. If it is done, it is done to a few. And yes, I would have had access to this sort of knowledge when I was in the military

 

[FreeWorkVest]

My opinion is that the US should never use any interrogation technique that fails the miranda test.

Tourture is a highly ineffective way of getting credible information. People will say what ever it takes to get the tourture to stop, whatever they think you want to hear.
This is mearly a way to punish muslims for being muslim. How long have we had "enemy combatants" in Gitmo yet STILL haven't produced a single charge related to Sept. 11th?

 

[gLing]

No, there are not. If it is done, it is done to a few. And yes, I would have had access to this sort of knowledge when I was in the military

Yes they do. They talk about it a lot on the news how military intelligence officers go through it as part of their training. So do the special forces.

 

[FreeWorkVest]

You said many. Intelligence officers do not make many. A select few have experienced waterboarding, and most would tell you it is the most horrible thing that has ever happened to them.

 

[FreeWorkVest]

And special forces do not go through waterboarding, or any tourture, they get a training seminar before they so the survival training, then are given a simulated form of waterboarding where they are strapped to a board and their head is dunked in a tub of water a couple of times.

 

[dt3]

And special forces do not go through waterboarding, or any tourture

Really? Ever go through the Marine Corps SERE school at the JWTC in Okinawa?

 

[gLing]

And special forces do not go through waterboarding, or any tourture, they get a training seminar before they so the survival training, then are given a simulated form of waterboarding where they are strapped to a board and their head is dunked in a tub of water a couple of times.

So in other words they do get water boarded. lol

Here is an ex-military man that went through it in training and did it again on TV
Kaj Larsen: A Lesson For Mukasey: Why I Had Myself Water-Boarded - Politics on The Huffington Post

 

[FreeWorkVest]

Really? Ever go through the Marine Corps SERE school at the JWTC in Okinawa?

Nope, but I was a corpsman and worked at a couple of facilities

 

[dt3]

Nope, but I was a corpsman and worked at a couple of facilities

So if they were to undergo torture as part of the training there, you wouldn't know?

 

[FreeWorkVest]

So in other words they do get water boarded. lol

Here is an ex-military man that went through it in training and did it again on TV
Kaj Larsen: A Lesson For Mukasey: Why I Had Myself Water-Boarded - Politics on The Huffington Post

Nope, waterboarding is not the same as a dunking stool. Dip you head in the tub, then stick your nose under the faucet and tell me they are the same

 

[FreeWorkVest]

So if they were to undergo torture as part of the training there, you wouldn't know?

Absolutely. Whenever someone was hurt during evasion and survival training, they were med-evaked to us. There were three women raped during the training that caused them to restructure it

 

[gLing]

Nope, waterboarding is not the same as a dunking stool. Dip you head in the tub, then stick your nose under the faucet and tell me they are the same

That is not what they did in the video. lmao

 

[dt3]

Absolutely. Whenever someone was hurt during evasion and survival training, they were med-evaked to us. There were three women raped during the training that caused them to restructure it

But water-boarding isn't a physical form of interrogation. So you wouldn't have seen anyone who was hurt during water-boarding.

What camp did they Medevac them to?

 

[All Else Failed]

Yes they do. They talk about it a lot on the news how military intelligence officers go through it as part of their training. So do the special forces.

IF they do, I highly doubt it is done to the extent that it may be done to suspected "terrorists".

So in other words they do get water boarded. lol

Here is an ex-military man that went through it in training and did it again on TV
Kaj Larsen: A Lesson For Mukasey: Why I Had Myself Water-Boarded - Politics on The Huffington Post

Um yeah, how isn't that torture?

They didn't include the beating that probably goes on as well.

 

[FreeWorkVest]

But water-boarding isn't a physical form of interrogation. So you wouldn't have seen anyone who was hurt during water-boarding.

What camp did they Medevac them to?

Actually, at the time, it was the hospial shiip MERCY. And I hated every second aboard ship. Also, yes, everyone received a full physical and psycological exam as part of the debrief

 

[gLing]

IF they do, I highly doubt it is done to the extent that it may be done to suspected "terrorists".



Um yeah, how isn't that torture?

They didn't include the beating that probably goes on as well.

You have nothing but ASSumptions.
Going by your reasoning anything that makes a terrorist uncomfortable is torture. haha

 

[All Else Failed]

You have nothing but ASSumptions.
Going by your reasoning anything that makes a terrorist uncomfortable is torture. haha

Nope. If you think that water boarding falls under the category of being simply "uncomfortable", you're way off base.


A stone in your shoe is uncomfortable, a rash is uncomfortable, that creepy uncle telling stories about when you were younger at thanksgiving is uncomfortable...THIS is torture.

 

[gLing]

Nope. If you think that water boarding falls under the category of being simply "uncomfortable", you're way off base.


A stone in your shoe is uncomfortable, a rash is uncomfortable, that creepy uncle telling stories about when you were younger at thanksgiving is uncomfortable...THIS is torture.

Was he harmed? Or did he just have the wits scared out of him? That is what water boarding does, scare you.

 

[IntruderLS1]

I find it interesting that nobody has been willing to put an idea out there as an alternative.

Maybe if there were better ways, the argument could proceed. :dunno:

 

[All Else Failed]

Was he harmed? Or did he just have the wits scared out of him? That is what water boarding does, scare you.

How are you so sure of that? Sign on up!