Tired of illegal immigrants?

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Well the difference between you being poor, and a Mexican being poor is they can't even afford to BE in debt. They don't even have money to do that with. You're rich compared to them.


Well thats nice that you volunteer, perhaps you should extend that good deed past stupid, arbitrary things like borders.



Why don't you want Illegals to immigrate legally? Is there something I'm missing here that makes them more special than people who immigrate here legally?!


I want them to come here legally, but until we change our laws, I can't blame them for coming here illegally. You would too. Put yourself in their shoes.





I don't get you. "Illegals come first, darn it all; make sure the Illegals go to the front of the line!!!"

I don't advocate that. Stop making things up.




Again....for the umpteenth time...you can't expect people to just obey an unrealistic immigration system when they are practically dying in their own country with children they have to take care of.

Completely close-minded and can't face reality.

Enjoy your Illegals. Enjoy getting robbed and raped by Illegals. Enjoy getting your neighborhood pissed on and trashed. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.

I wish I didn't have to live in reality as you don't; because then I wouldn't care as you don't.
 
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See, you're speechless because you realize your madness isn't reality.
no its because you are so closed off to what the situation really is each one of your posts genuinely makes me laugh. I actually called a few people in from the other room and showed you what you posted, they all laughed one of them is actually crying from laughter.
 

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Oh come on, Mr. volunteer! :24:

The only volunteering you want me to do is escorting Illegals over the border. I understand.

So, you live near the border, right? And feed the Illegals as they walk across? And point them to the Illegal advocacy groups, right? Are you a member of La Raza? Do you join in the rallys supporting Illegal immigration?

Are you proud?
 

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The only volunteering you want me to do is escorting Illegals over the border. I understand.

So, you live near the border, right? And feed the Illegals as they walk across? And point them to the Illegal advocacy groups, right? Are you a member of La Raza? Do you join in the rallys supporting Illegal immigration?

Are you proud?
lol I think you just don't like Mexicans, to be totally honest.
 

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no its because you are so closed off to what the situation really is each one of your posts genuinely makes me laugh. I actually called a few people in from the other room and showed you what you posted, they all laughed one of them is actually crying from laughter.

I can't help you with your problem and theirs. I can only guess that you all have some kind of beef with people who immigrated here LEGALLY.

People I know don't appreciate ILLEGALS coming here ILLEGALLY.

They all laugh at the stoned-out-of-your minds thought process that you and your fellow hyenas love so much.

You think I'm in the minority. Obviously you'd be surprised to know I'm not.

I guess you do live in a community of Bleeding-Heart brainwashed Illegal Advocates. Hopefully, none of you will come over here. How many Illegals do all of your crying-from-laughter open their homes to? How many Illegal gardeners do you all employ?


But, keep laughing...enjoy your bong hits. I understand reality is a bitch to face and you need some escapism.
 

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I can't help you with your problem and theirs. I can only guess that you all have some kind of beef with people who immigrated here LEGALLY.

People I know don't appreciate ILLEGALS coming here ILLEGALLY.

They all laugh at the stoned-out-of-your minds thought process that you and your fellow hyenas love so much.

You think I'm in the minority. Obviously you'd be surprised to know I'm not.

I guess you do live in a community of Bleeding-Heart brainwashed Illegal Advocates. Hopefully, none of you will come over here. How many Illegals do all of your crying-from-laughter open their homes to? How many Illegal gardeners do you all employ?


But, keep laughing...enjoy your bong hits. I understand reality is a bitch to face and you need some escapism.
No, we don't have any sort of problem with people that came here legally. In fact, the ones that are laughing are all conservatives.

I know you're not in the minority, but that doesn't mean you're right.


Yeah, i don't smoke weed, there you go with those crazy assumptions again! haha you're cute. :clap


No, actually the area where I live is mostly conservative, anti-illegal immigration.
 

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lol I think you just don't like Mexicans, to be totally honest.

And there's another asinine, ridiculous statement folks!

When Illegal Advocates can't think of anything to say, they attack with silly-ass statements like this one.

You are the one who brought up Mexicans. I'm talking about ALL Illegals, regardless of what country they're from. Obviously you have a hard-on for Illegal Mexicans since you're so affixiated on them.

What an ass.

Just keep smoking your silly weed and posting garbage like you have been. Maybe when you become an adult, reality will set in and you'll be normal. Until then, enjoy your fantasy world.
 

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No, we don't have any sort of problem with people that came here legally. In fact, the ones that are laughing are all conservatives.

I know you're not in the minority, but that doesn't mean you're right.


Yeah, i don't smoke weed, there you go with those crazy assumptions again! haha you're cute. :clap


No, actually the area where I live is mostly conservative, anti-illegal immigration.

So then, your little stoner group is holed up in one of your parents' basement solving the world's problems. Cool. Have fun.
 

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you know what is more messed up than people HIRING illegals? the fact that there are banks (wells fargo and bank of america) that accept foreign consular ID's as primary ID's, as opposed to US state IDs/drivers licenses. If these illegals weren't able to cash checks they'd be SOL. Sure theres still the cash under the table thing, but come on why are we cashing their fucking paychecks?! It's like we know it's happening and we don't do shit about it. ugh.
 

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Alright AEF, it's time to back up some of your claims. You say the process is ridiculous. Well, what process are you talking about? What, specifically, is ridiculous? And what are the fees you keep saying they can't afford?

I've spent about 30 minutes on the US Customs and Immigration Service website, and I haven't seen a mention of any fees required.
 

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Alright AEF, it's time to back up some of your claims. You say the process is ridiculous. Well, what process are you talking about? What, specifically, is ridiculous? And what are the fees you keep saying they can't afford?

I've spent about 30 minutes on the US Customs and Immigration Service website, and I haven't seen a mention of any fees required.
You need a visa, greencard and passport to get in. Thats a ton of money for a person to pay that lives in a shanty near a polluted river. That alone makes our system unreasonable and unfair to people that can't even afford to clothe themselves.
 

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You need a visa, greencard and passport to get in. Thats a ton of money for a person to pay that lives in a shanty near a polluted river. That alone makes our system unreasonable and unfair to people that can't even afford to clothe themselves.
Ok, so how much does all of that cost? What kind of unreasonable processes are there to acquire those?
 

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Ok, so how much does all of that cost? What kind of unreasonable processes are there to acquire those?
All together it would cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars, which a poor Mexican would have no hope in ever raising in half of their lives. I know people from Mexico, I have gone there, a lot of areas are in such destitute that they can hardly even eat everyday. The fact that the US knows this, and still makes it that expensive for a poor immigrant to enter the US is why its so unreasonable.
 

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All together it would cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars, which a poor Mexican would have no hope in ever raising in half of their lives. I know people from Mexico, I have gone there, a lot of areas are in such destitute that they can hardly even eat everyday. The fact that the US knows this, and still makes it that expensive for a poor immigrant to enter the US is why its so unreasonable.


Im not for handing shit out for free, but i can shed some light into the fee question:

Visa
The process for getting a visa in Mexico is not as easy/cheap/accessible as it is here. For one you need to prove ownershp of a dueling, which while it is easier to own a home in mexico then it is here it is still just as expensive. then come fees, state and government fees. while not a lot for the above average income family, most of these illegal immigrants are well below what any other country would call poor.

The process needed to become a legal citizen in the US:
Lets start with residency aka green card which you cant have unless you can prove being in the US for a period longer than 5 yrs. So , you need to prove being in the US for 5+ yrs. Problem is: You cannot get a permit to stay here for more than 6 months at a time even through airports unless youre in a student visa and even then it isnt for 5 years.

So in essence the govt says: ok you want residency? prove to me that youve been here longer than 5 yrs, entered the country legally and never left (making you an illegal immigrant) for any reason at all. Of course things like death inthe family, etc are ignored but still highly questioned.

Then there is the waiting periods which can be up to and more than 2 years. all of which are riddled with lawyer fees, and such. The govt will not accept paperwork filled out by a normal person it has to be filled and certified by a lawyer, so it can get anywhere form 1k to 8k which youre supposed to come up with while not working illegally in the us, but youre supposed to be here for longer than 5 yrs, out of which 6 mos is the most you can be in here legally. You cannot leave the country until the near end of the process, at which time it is part of the process to go back to your country of origin for a designated amount of time (days i think)

Classes are expensive for certified instructors that are basically teaching you the basics of American history usually taught in high school lol.

Then youre sent to a border town to get tested for god knows what, you get fingerprinted and your picture taken at a "special" place that charges a wad of money for passport pictures.

These are only the few things i can recall out of the whole process.

Ever since 9/11 the prices and fees have gone up consistently.. the fee associated with your citizensip application processing went from 249 to 500 and it has been said to go higher in the following years.

No, its not impossible for the average person to get this done, and to most Americans that earn an average wage it can be rather easy on the wallet. however most of the people that need it cannot afford it.

Sure there are "bleeding heart" association that will help with fees, filling out the forms etc... sadly most of the people that need the help dont know whereto get it. the illegal community's own fault.

no, it is not impossible to go through the process some people just dont know where to go to get the proper direction.


My family did it several years ago so the prices may have changed since then.

I opted not to get a citizenship at the time for my own reasons.
and yes I am here as a legal resident.
 

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heh I'd rather not get into this shit here but meh :p

Im a legal immigrant and lets just say some of the stuff posted in this thread is nothing more than jargon made popular by the media, who in search for a hot topic has made this a "NEW threat TO AMERICA"

Immigration whether legal or illegal has been part of this country since its start, is it a problem that needs to be dealt with? Yes definetly but there are better ways to deal with the situation at hand rather than shipping them all back to their native countries.

- Its easy to claim that any american would do the job an illegal immigrant does, the problem is whether YOU would?
- Shipping illegals back to their country is nothing new, its been happening for some time now its called DEPORTATION. The problem is not what to do with them but how to deal with the massive numbers of them, the consequences of it and creating a plan to be put to action. (emphasis on consequences)
- Those very same companies you are buying stuff from quite possible have illegals working for their product at some point, the problem doesn't lie with the illegal immigrant but the people and companies employing them.

Just my opinion.
 

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No matter what I say next, know that the slow clap was a stroke of genius!!



**Next subject**

I'm kind of done with trying to prove everything to you for awhile. You don't read anything I link, so I'm really wasting my time.

Eventually I'll feel froggy enough to take on your little game again, but not now.

FWIW though... I live in Southern California. I see it with my own eyes every day.

My wife is a teacher. The four kinder classes at her school are broken down like this. 1. No English capable children. 100% Spanish. 2. No English capable children. 100% Spanish. 3. 100% language learners. Unable to speak fluent English, but on the right track. 4. White / Black / Asian kids with full English comprehension.

Even more wrong than that, the school is getting into deep poo because they're breaking the law by "segregating" by language capability. The activists are demanding that we hold back our kids until the illegal kids catch up.

The school district she just left had three kinder classes, and only one had students in it that spoke English. (about half the class). That school started something called "Duel Emersion" this year. Basically, all children are taught exclusively in Spanish for the first few years, and then as they get older they work towards eventual 50 / 50 English-Spanish school day.

Call me a racist, bigot, xenophobe, all you want. I can't get behind that.

That's rough. Could well imagine your resentment. That's similar to a whole group of people come to take over your town and then you in turn have to march to the beat of their tune.

From what I hear also, there's a resistance by many of the immigrants to learn and adapt to the culture/lifestyle, language too, of the host country but lean more towards forming a culture within a culture that's it's hosts are more pressured to adapting to the immigrants.

I am by no means a racial or prejudice person but at the same time I could well imagine the frustration of the hosts.
 
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