Tired of illegal immigrants?

[teh_fuzz]

That's rough. Could well imagine your resentment. That's similar to a whole group of people come to take over your town and then you in turn have to march to the beat of their tune.

From what I hear also, there's a resistance by many of the immigrants to learn and adapt to the culture/lifestyle, language too, of the host country but lean more towards forming a culture within a culture that's it's hosts are more pressured to adapting to the immigrants.

I am by no means a racial or prejudice person but at the same time I could well imagine the frustration of the hosts.

In the 16 yrs i have been in this country i have not met an immigrant that did not have a desire to join the community in which they are living in. Often it is the fear of the non immigrant community that drives immigrants to seclude themselves into their own small groups.

On another note, I would too be pissed as LS1is about the situation his wife is in. I got thrown into a 95% white school when i got here, i had to adapt and that is the way it should be. It not only helped me learn the language within a few months but it got me to realize the difference in cultures and societies. The fact that the school district is doing this is not only depriving the english speaking kids of their education but making the sitation worse by not promoting the need to learn english on the immigrant kids.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

I hear you teh_fuzz and applaud your own experience.

I mention the reluctance of immigrants to adapt to the host country's culture and language and imposing their own on the hosts, not from experience really as I do not live in the USA, but more so from reports and observations throughout the course of time.

When a host country has to change it's primary language of communicating to suit the immigrants it tells you something.

 

[GraceAbounds]

What to be in the US legally?

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A Green Card allows you to live and work permanently in the U.S.
I[/FONT]nterested in a Green Card? Here is the process:
Green Cards - 11 Ways to Get One - Apply Online: Fast, Easy, Economical

What to become a US citizen? Here is the process:
How to become a U.S. citizen

It is isn't a free process, but there is a way.

 

[Peter Parka]

What's a Green card lottery? Do you seriously have a lottery to win a green card?confused

 

[GraceAbounds]

Good grief, there are a million different ways to secure your green card and that is what you come up with: 'Is there a green card lottery?'. LOL! The point is that it is not difficult to get citizenship. It is time consuming, but that is pretty much how anything worth having is in this life.

 

[Peter Parka]

Jesus! It was just a question which I asked because I don't know about these things. Anyone else want to answer it for me?

 

[All Else Failed]

a lot of you are missing the point. Most illegals are piss poor. It doesn't matter how many times you post links on how the process works, the process takes $$$$$ that most of them do not have.

 

[Johnny C]

a lot of you are missing the point. Most illegals are piss poor. It doesn't matter how many times you post links on how the process works, the process takes $$$$$ that most of them do not have.

Correct, they are, but as mentioned before, they pay quite a bit of money to get here ILLEGALLY. Why not save that and come legally?

Charmer, be careful, I see AEF is trying to point you out as a racist as he did me as well.

 

[Peter Parka]

Correct, they are, but as mentioned before, they pay quite a bit of money to get here ILLEGALLY. Why not save that and come legally?

Charmer, be careful, I see AEF is trying to point you out as a racist as he did me as well.

No, it was me who thought you were being racist. Have you got any good stats to prove that it's cheaper to come hear legally than illegally? I'd love to see some more accurate figures here. AEF has shown roughly how expensive legal citizenship is but I'd like to see some sound figures for both sides of the argument here.

 

[GraceAbounds]

a lot of you are missing the point. Most illegals are piss poor. It doesn't matter how many times you post links on how the process works, the process takes $$$$$ that most of them do not have.

And you aren't reading the links. If you have a green card, you can work in the US. The 'becoming a citizen' process takes time so while you are waiting and working here legally (green card holder) - you can budget and save.

* And Peter, I didn't mean to come across as ugly. I just didn't want the main point to be distracted from. My apologies.

 

[Peter Parka]

No problem, Grace. I'd still like to know what the Green card lottery is though as I genuinely don't know about it. If it's what it sounds like though that seems to really cheapen the whole immigration policy, immigration is something which should be judged as an important life changing experience, not undermined as some gamble on lady luck.

 

[GraceAbounds]

No problem, Grace. I'd still like to know what the Green card lottery is though as I genuinely don't know about it. If it's what it sounds like though that seems to really cheapen the whole immigration policy, immigration is something which should be judged as an important life changing experience, not undermined as some gamble on lady luck.

I don't know anything about the green card lottery. But here is a link: Green Card Lottery, US Green Card Online Application Services, USAFIS

Regardless of this lottery thing, there are tons of other ways to file for a green card as seen in my previous link that aren't a gamble.

 

[Peter Parka]

Looks like my first thought was right then, that's fucked up!:eek

I did look at the other stuff by the way and it looked nigh on impossible for me as an average Joe from a Western country to get one should I apply, let alone some poverty stricken Mexican!

 

[GraceAbounds]

I guess we are reading different links then.

 

[All Else Failed]

And you aren't reading the links. If you have a green card, you can work in the US. The 'becoming a citizen' process takes time so while you are waiting and working here legally (green card holder) - you can budget and save.

* And Peter, I didn't mean to come across as ugly. I just didn't want the main point to be distracted from. My apologies.

Green cards aren't something you can easily get. I read your links, and it doesn't work that way for everyone.

The lottery is a joke. Logic would tell you that if its that easy to get a green card, we wouldn't have this kind of illegal immigration now, would we?

 

[GraceAbounds]

The lottery is a joke.

I'm sure it isn't a joke to the 50,000 that get their green card through it. But whatever, you going to be negative no matter what is said.

 

[All Else Failed]

I'm sure it isn't a joke to the 50,000 that get their green card through it. But whatever, you going to be negative no matter what is said.

Out of millions.

 

[Peter Parka]

I'm sure it isn't a joke to the 50,000 that get their green card through it. But whatever, you going to be negative no matter what is said.

Yeah, clamp down hard on immigration but let people in randomly through a lottery. I honestly thought I'd got it wrong at first. That would be a joke if it wasn't so fucked up!:eek

 

[GraceAbounds]

Yeah, clamp down hard on immigration but let people in randomly through a lottery. I honestly thought I'd got it wrong at first. That would be a joke if it wasn't so fucked up!:eek

The idea is to clamp down on ILLEGAL immigration, not legal immigration. And while it be may be randomly winning in a lottery, they are not getting a green card without going through a process - you can bet your arse on that.

 

[All Else Failed]

Ok, we all want legal immigration, thats a given.

But, I just think it wouldn't hurt to make the process less expensive for people that cannot raise the money. It makes sense.