This is Why the Occupy Wall Street Movement Keeps Growing
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Yea same here. The way he raised the can first, and then sprayed it with a sweeping motion tells it all.
It covers more ground when you use a sweeping motion.
He probably wouldn't have had much time to do it so theatrically if his life was in danger as the cops claimed.
I wish I looked that calm and cool every time I used that stuff.
Johnfromokc
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Are you a cop?
PoopaSwoof
Doddering Old Poop
These people are not convicts. They were citizens peacefully protesting.
Johnfromokc
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This retired Philadelphia police cheif is a real public servant - not a hired mercenary like Lt. Pike. Check out his opinion of how our public servants are being used to violate our constitutional civil rights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxk8OYiZ3vk&feature=share
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxk8OYiZ3vk&feature=share
Accountable
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Nah, that's the new badass way of hunting bear. :jk
Johnfromokc
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LOL....just more internet machismo eh?
First we need to get something straight. Both you and Johnnyfromcophatingcountry are assuming I support what the cop did. To be very clear I will state catigoricaly that I do not. I believe what the cop did was despicable and he should at the very least loose his job over it. Both of you assume I hadn't watched the video before I posted the link. Once again, to be perfectly clear I will say that I did watch the video before and after as well as a number of times that CNN has played it. I didn't like what I saw and it reminds me of the incident in Vancouver not that long ago.
I posted the link with the hope that people would at least read it and know what was going on. That's something that doesn't happen around here very often. Case in point... even though Johnnyfromcophatingcountry claims to have read it prior to my posting he didn't post it. My question there would be " why didn't he post it?" Because it didn't fully support his take on the situation so instead of responding in a decent manner he spouts off with his verbal diarrhea once again. At least I got my morning chuckle.
So now you want to know why I made the comment to AA about the statement that brought you into the thread. It's part of the story which started to take it's usual twists and turns once the video became public. Your question being " which group are you going to confront " really doesn't matter. I wasn't there to see what was going in the sidelines out of the cameras view so and at this stage of the game I don't believe either side but if I was forced to take sides I would be with the cops.
No where in my post did I attempt to describe where YOU stand on the story.
You picked a passage from the story and quoted it in your post.
I was just pointing out that the statement didn't make any sense at all when paired with the numerous videos I have seen of the incident.
I was listening to cnn last night and they interviewed the chancellor of the school, the one that ordered the campus police to remove the demonstrators. She herself said that the actions of the campus police were unfortunate and excessive. She said that she was only concerned for the safety and well being of the students. That is why she had the protests broken up. Yet the actions of the campus police injured almost a dozen nonviolent students sending two to the hospital. So the very thing she was trying to prevent was imposed by the campus police.
Unlike some of my republican friends, I fully support our bill of rights
If the police said that Christians were no longer allowed to worship their religion, the US would rise up and there would be blood in the streets. Yet no one seems to bat an eye when one of our other basic rights is stomped on.
You picked a passage from the story and quoted it in your post.
I was just pointing out that the statement didn't make any sense at all when paired with the numerous videos I have seen of the incident.
I was listening to cnn last night and they interviewed the chancellor of the school, the one that ordered the campus police to remove the demonstrators. She herself said that the actions of the campus police were unfortunate and excessive. She said that she was only concerned for the safety and well being of the students. That is why she had the protests broken up. Yet the actions of the campus police injured almost a dozen nonviolent students sending two to the hospital. So the very thing she was trying to prevent was imposed by the campus police.
Unlike some of my republican friends, I fully support our bill of rights
If the police said that Christians were no longer allowed to worship their religion, the US would rise up and there would be blood in the streets. Yet no one seems to bat an eye when one of our other basic rights is stomped on.
CaptainTurtles
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I actually liked the fact someone was finally taking a heavy hand with them.
Okay maybe he was going a bit too far, but there was a guy here in Vancouver who was up in a tree at the Occupy camp refusing to get down, and there was a city worker just trying to get a bycicle out of the tree he was in and the guy threw urine all over the worker. Then they were all fucking nancying around and letting the guy stay up there while he was laughing and telling the cameras how he has feaces and rotten eggs to throw at anyone who tried to get him. Then they all have to wait for permission to get him down. Really? Just get up there and drag the fucker out fo the tree.
While I'm not agreeing with what that guy did, if they're breaking laws - do what's right. Get them out of there. I hate this 'waiting for court orders' bullshit. If they're not allowed to be there just get them the fuck out.
Okay maybe he was going a bit too far, but there was a guy here in Vancouver who was up in a tree at the Occupy camp refusing to get down, and there was a city worker just trying to get a bycicle out of the tree he was in and the guy threw urine all over the worker. Then they were all fucking nancying around and letting the guy stay up there while he was laughing and telling the cameras how he has feaces and rotten eggs to throw at anyone who tried to get him. Then they all have to wait for permission to get him down. Really? Just get up there and drag the fucker out fo the tree.
While I'm not agreeing with what that guy did, if they're breaking laws - do what's right. Get them out of there. I hate this 'waiting for court orders' bullshit. If they're not allowed to be there just get them the fuck out.
Johnfromokc
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Hey GuyzerTheGrumpyGeezer - :fing27 - Talk in cirlces much? :willy_nilly:
Come on Geezer - ease up with the attempt at coming across as some kind of intellectual and just engage in a simple conversation. If you agree that what the cops did was "despicable", then why engage in all the verbal asshattery?
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
That is not an absolute though. Same as free speech does not allow one to yell fire in a theater.
Have you not commented in approval of smoking bans in restaurants? If so it would seem you are cherry picking which rights to stomp on.Tim said:
That is not an absolute though. Same as free speech does not allow one to yell fire in a theater.
Have you not commented in approval of smoking bans in restaurants? If so it would seem you are cherry picking which rights to stomp on.
Those two aren't very good comparisons. Yelling fire in a crowded theater will most likely result in the direct injury or death of another individual with the panic that ensues.
Peacefully gathering in a public space does not pose danger to the community. The justifications so far have been unrelated laws on the books concerning sleeping overnight in these places. Which were NOT put into place to suppress your right to peaceably assemble, they were put into place to keep vagrants and homeless out of public view.
If you remove the other topics in that amendment, it reads like this.
Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of the right of the people peaceably to assemble
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
Sorry but those inconvenient unrelated laws are still laws. If you think camping out anywhere in an urban area overnight is ok then get the law changed. I doubt you will find many who will agree that it is a good idea though.
Correct me if I am wrong but in this instance was the crowd not told to disperse for the night? If so it was a legitimate request based on the law and the protesters should have done so. The right to peaceably assemble does not mean camping out day after day 24/7.
Do you not understand where it's unlawful to make a law that violates your rights?
Like I said earlier, if a law was passed that said that Christians were no longer allowed to follow Christianity, would it be ok for the people to exercise their rights or should they just throw up their arms and go home because after all it's a law?
Johnfromokc
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Allen - should the Civil Rights Movement have waited until the laws that required blacks to ride in the back of the bus, drink at "colored" water fountains, use "colored" restrooms and eat only in "colored" establishments before they engaged in civil disobiedence?
It apparently didn't mean blacks had the same rights as whites at one time.
Do people simply succumb to the very laws that are causing the problems they are protesting?
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
So you guys are comparing the civil rights movement to being able to camp out overnight?
you both seem to think it is ok to camp out overnight in an urban setting.
IMO the problem started when the wimp of a mayor in NYC let them camp out the first night. As I said before when you start cherry picking laws you are asking for trouble.
Using your logic then people might as well set up a red light district for hookers and allow smoking pot in Zucatti Park
you both seem to think it is ok to camp out overnight in an urban setting.
IMO the problem started when the wimp of a mayor in NYC let them camp out the first night. As I said before when you start cherry picking laws you are asking for trouble.
Using your logic then people might as well set up a red light district for hookers and allow smoking pot in Zucatti Park
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