The Violent Oppression of Muslim Women - Warning, disturbing video

[retro]

I said there is no alternate word in English for the Arabic ZINA.....
you are just being silly....Rape is by force, Premarital sex can be consensual.
Get the bug out of your head and try to understand .....

watch the videos I have posted for your enlightenment rather than keep trolling on the thread with childish
spewings!

Stop deflecting... you know what rape is. So, was that women guilty of rape or adultery? It's a very very simple question, and one that I think all of us would like a clear answer to. I'll even restate it for you.

In the article I linked, was the woman guilty of rape or adultery? Additionally, was her punishment of death justified?

 

[retro]

Oh, and you're also incorrect about there being no Arabic word for rape. It is الاغتصاب (Ightisab)

the prominent Saudi Islamic lecturer and author Sheikh Muhammad Saleh Al-Munajjid states the following:

The Arabic word ightisab (rape) refers to taking something wrongfully by force. It is now used exclusively to refer to transgression against the honor of women by force.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1125407868541#ixzz1Bt5cp1n5

 

[mazHur]

Stop deflecting... you know what rape is. So, was that women guilty of rape or adultery? It's a very very simple question, and one that I think all of us would like a clear answer to. I'll even restate it for you.

In the article I linked, was the woman guilty of rape or adultery? Additionally, was her punishment of death justified?

I am not deflecting....that woman committed adultery and she was given the maximum
penalty of Death. If the death penalty was according to the commandment of the Quran I have no reason to disagree with that but let me check it up...for specifics.
There are different penalties for married men and unmarried people stated in the Quran,. You can google for detail..but if I get time I will revert with quotes from the Quran.


Again, i regret to see YOU ranting about rape. In simple words if you fuck a woman by force and against her will , that constitutes RAPE. Any type of other sexual indulgence which is consensual is also 'rape' or as you put it ''fornication''.....For the first is death penalty to the rapist....in the 2nd case lashes (am reverting as to specifics!!)

 

[mazHur]

Oh, and you're also incorrect about there being no Arabic word for rape. It is الاغتصاب (Ightisab)

Kimmy, will you kindly tell that dude what Zina in Arabic means??

 

[mazHur]

Okay, Kimmy must be asleep. Let me tell you what rape in Arabic is

look here and don't try to teach me Arabic in future!
sorry to say but you are really a pain in the ass!

Illegal sexual intercourse (zina', الزناء)


and the Hudoods or Limits as set by the Quran on some crimes are

they could also choose to forgive. Hudud offenses include:[2]

• Theft (sariqa, السرقة)
• Highway robbery (qat' al-tariq, قطع الطريق)
• Illegal sexual intercourse (zina', الزناء)
• False accusation of zina' (qadhf, القذف) [3]
• Drinking alcohol (sharb al-khamr, شرب الخمر)(Unlike the first four offences listed above , not all jurists consider drinking alcohol to be a hudud offense.)[4]
• Apostasy (irtidād or ridda, ارتداد) includes blasphemy. (Unlike the first four offenses listed above, not all jurists consider apostasy to be a hudud offense.[citation needed])

In traditional Islamic legal systems, there were very exacting standards of proof that had to be met if hudud punishments were to be implemented.[citation needed]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudud

 

[Alien Allen]

Give up Retro

When a person says there is consensual rape they are clueless

There is nothing consensual about a rape

He is just trying to justify their backwoods barbaric treatment of women who are raped

And he has the nerve to suggest the west treat women badly

 

[mazHur]

Give up Retro

When a person says there is consensual rape they are clueless

There is nothing consensual about a rape

He is just trying to justify their backwoods barbaric treatment of women who are raped

And he has the nerve to suggest the west treat women badly

Just stop trolling....consensual fucking is also a kind of rape..Zina Bil Raza...

fucking with the consensus is RAPE and only the rapist gets his throat slitted...the woman goes free!!

If yet you don't understand me you definitely ought to see a shrink!
Retro may be tenacious but he isn't a fool to toe your line!

 

[USF Sam]

Give up Retro

When a person says there is consensual rape they are clueless

There is nothing consensual about a rape

He is just trying to justify their backwoods barbaric treatment of women who are raped

And he has the nerve to suggest the west treat women badly

+1

Just let the troll climb back under his bridge and hurl mud at passers-by.


Just let the idea of what would happen if our friend maZur met a strong Western woman and tried this shit warm your heart. :24:

 

[Alien Allen]

Just stop trolling....consensual fucking is also a kind of rape..Zina Bil Raza...

fucking with the consensus is RAPE and only the rapist gets his throat slitted...the woman goes free!!

If yet you don't understand me you definitely ought to see a shrink!
Retro may be tenacious but he isn't a fool to toe your line!

In your part of the world you are free to live your manly illusion

In the civilized world there is no such thing as consensual rape. It has nothing to do with consensual fucking.

When you want to learn how to debate feel free to come back.

Until then go ahead and make a fool out of yourself by continuing with your nonsense.

 

[USF Sam]

Just stop trolling....consensual fucking is also a kind of rape..Zina Bil Raza...

fucking with the consensus is RAPE and only the rapist gets his throat slitted...the woman goes free!!

If yet you don't understand me you definitely ought to see a shrink!
Retro may be tenacious but he isn't a fool to toe your line!

OK... this should be interesting as the owner of this site and half the Valdosta Mafia MODs are women cops.

The word "consensual" and "rape" do not belong in the same sentence. The only exception is the case of statutory rape, and the concept there is that the girl is not old enough to legally consent.

However, in a cultural where a girl can be married at the age of 9, that is kind of a moot point, now ain't it?

 

[JoeCool10]

This idiot doesn't make any fucking sense. And the shit he's been spewing makes me think they only way he's EVER slept with a woman, or ever WILL sleep with one is by raping her. That's the impression I get from him, and I'm disgusted that he can even live with himself. I can tell you if anyone ever, and I mean EVER tried to rape me, he'd be on the ground with my knee in his throat. I agree with Sam, if you ever came to a more normal part of the world where rape is illegal, you're in for a total shock.

 

[mazHur]

In your part of the world you are free to live your manly illusion

In the civilized world there is no such thing as consensual rape. It has nothing to do with consensual fucking.

When you want to learn how to debate feel free to come back.

Until then go ahead and make a fool out of yourself by continuing with your nonsense.

Okay let me call it ''consensual sexual intercourse''...I hope now you get the simple thing I am trying to say again and again to deliberately trolling ***** minds!

 

[mazHur]

This idiot doesn't make any fucking sense. And the shit he's been spewing makes me think they only way he's EVER slept with a woman, or ever WILL sleep with one is by raping her. That's the impression I get from him, and I'm disgusted that he can even live with himself. I can tell you if anyone ever, and I mean EVER tried to rape me, he'd be on the ground with my knee in his throat. I agree with Sam, if you ever came to a more normal part of the world where rape is illegal, you're in for a total shock.

Stop making personal remarks...just keep on the topic, understand!

 

[Alien Allen]

Okay let me call it ''consensual sexual intercourse''...I hope now you get the simple thing I am trying to say again and again to deliberately trolling ***** minds!

''consensual sexual intercourse'' aint rape

you should know about trolling as that is all you have been doing with your anti west blather

 

[USF Sam]

Okay let me call it ''consensual sexual intercourse''...I hope now you get the simple thing I am trying to say again and again to deliberately trolling ***** minds!

So... "consenual rape" = "consensual sexual intercourse"?

So... speaking mathematically in your world, by derivation... "rape" = "sexual intercourse"

So... all sex is rape.



Explain, please.

 

[mazHur]

+1

Just let the troll climb back under his bridge and hurl mud at passers-by.

then better keep clear of my way!! I don't like to discuss with irrational people.

Just let the idea of what would happen if our friend maZur met a strong Western woman and tried this shit warm your heart. :24:

Have been there done that.....before even you were born!!
:thumbup:thumbup

 

[USF Sam]

Stop making personal remarks...just keep on the topic, understand!

Yeah... good luck having a Western women respond favorably to that sort of language.

Next time, try smacking her on the nose with a rolled up newspaper and saying "No" in a firm voice. It'll work about as well. :24:

 

[JoeCool10]

Stop making personal remarks...just keep on the topic, understand!

You're a jackass.

 

[USF Sam]

Have been there done that.....before even you were born!!
:thumbup:thumbup

Unless you're in your sixties, I highly doubt it as I'm in my mid-forties.

However, if you ARE in your sixties that would explain a bit. If this is the case, and I say this with all loving kindness...

http://alz.org/alzheimers_disease_10_signs_of_alzheimers.asp?type=homepageflash

 

[mazHur]

''consensual sexual intercourse'' aint rape

you should know about trolling as that is all you have been doing with your anti west blather

You don't read the posts and are bent upon making flimsy remarks...that is worse than a troll!!

I already said 'consensual sexual intercourse' is regarded by Muslims are Rape or Zina bil Raza!!

The other by force is called Zina bil Jabr...

I hope your C***head gets it now, if not just buzz off!