The Official WWE/TNA thread

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The WWE Title is safe and sound in the Straight Edge Fridge :24:

 

[Springsteen]

Ok here's the situation, it appears Vince Mcmahon has indeed stepped down as CEO of the WWE, and Triple H has taken over the day to day running of the company. In storyline terms that's 100% true, and it makes sense that it's legit because as WWE are a public company, they have to announce this officially. It appears that has been done. John Cena is not going to be fired and the fact that Miz/Rey got pushed back until next week makes me think that match might not happen at all, because Triple H can overrule the tournament as a whole and go his own way with regards to the WWE Title. What that involves I haven't a clue, but it's intriguing and interesting. The tournament was fine for what it was, Raw seemed a fairly basic show, Vince aside but that final part was really good.

 

[Peter Parka]

Ok here's the situation, it appears Vince Mcmahon has indeed stepped down as CEO of the WWE, and Triple H has taken over the day to day running of the company. In storyline terms that's 100% true, and it makes sense that it's legit because as WWE are a public company, they have to announce this officially. It appears that has been done. John Cena is not going to be fired and the fact that Miz/Rey got pushed back until next week makes me think that match might not happen at all, because Triple H can overrule the tournament as a whole and go his own way with regards to the WWE Title. What that involves I haven't a clue, but it's intriguing and interesting. The tournament was fine for what it was, Raw seemed a fairly basic show, Vince aside but that final part was really good.

Got to hand it to WWE, you think they can't get any shitter, they blow your mind with the awesome CM Punk leaving thing and then they do this. I thought Hogan and Bishoff were ruining TNA but still not at the rate WWE is going down the shitter.

 

[Springsteen]

Well not really, considering TNA are still in WCW 2000 territory financially. It's they that are in the shitter. And saying something is worse than Hogan and Bischoff? Dearie me. That's physically impossible. I'll try TNA again in 6 months after Hogan vs Sting. This WWE story is intrigung because it really does seem real, and Triple H was always gonig to take over anyway. Better him than Steph, he seems to have a better understanding of the business. Plus a healthier relationship with the superstars.

 

[Peter Parka]

Well not really, considering TNA are still in WCW 2000 territory financially. It's they that are in the shitter. And saying something is worse than Hogan and Bischoff? Dearie me. That's physically impossible. I'll try TNA again in 6 months after Hogan vs Sting. This WWE story is intrigung because it really does seem real, and Triple H was always gonig to take over anyway. Better him than Steph, he seems to have a better understanding of the business. Plus a healthier relationship with the superstars.

I take it you didn't see the X division PPV? Pisses all over everything WWE is doing by far, minus CM Punk.

 

[Springsteen]

I did actually, but that was ruined by the god awful Impact last week. Not the x division guys fault though, I'll say that. Basically because that's a bright spot of TNA when it happens that they have a very good PPV it gets talked about, but the sad thing is TNA, in the grand scheme of things, don't give a shit about them, because they aren't big stars in their mind. Despite the fact that they are and should be, that's the biggest problem. It's sad because that's what TNA used to be like in 2005/6,PPV's that had you talking for weeks afterwards and PPV's with great booking all the time. That actually happened, it doesn't now. The simple solution is bring back Scott D'amore and fire Vince Russo. He used to book backwards, booking the finishes of the PPV matches first and going from there, simple formula, but it worked. Nowadays Russo books backwards, but in a completely different way.

 

[Peter Parka]

Definately agree with you about Russo, the guy is a prick, it's him that is responsible for ruining two great knockouts with that stupid zombie gimmick

It's like "what do kids like today?"

Twilight and all that shit

"Oh yeah, we'll get a wrestler to do that - fuck all and non sell everything, we'll be cool then!

Jesus wept!:willy_nilly:

 

[retro]

Honestly, this is the best written stuff by WWE/F creative that I've seen since the attitude era. What made that era great for both sides were the compelling storylines and the sense of realism... well, we're seeing that right now. WWE has been using social media perfectly to progress the story and make it seem absolutely real. I'm willing to put money on Cena working a lot of his promo on his own last night, which is another thing that made the attitude era great, Punk has had the latitude to do the same thing, starting with his attack on Vince and the WWE a few weeks back.

This pisses all over anything that Russo could ever hope to accomplish. The only reason he was good back in the day was because he was stealing ECW concepts... when you let him be original you end up with things like David Arquette winning the WCW Championship and Hogan vs. Sting Part 27, the Battle of the Pacemakers.

Putting Hunter in charge of the booking and such actually makes sense, because he knows the business really well and the guys in the back have the utmost respect for him. It's obviously still a storyline, but done in a real way, which is impressive in its own right. I'm actually legitimately interested right now, more than just the passing Wrestlemania buildup... the last time I was actually this interested in a storyline was the Jericho Save.Us_222 stuff (until they stretched it too far), and Christian coming to TNA.

 

[Springsteen]

Yeah he absolutely has the respect backstage, I mentioned in the past that when they went to the UK Vince didn't travel and it was a much more pleasant working environment because Triple H was generally more approachable and also he didn't shout down the wires to the announcers, he just guided them along etc. Which is why this is a great idea. Plus I get the feeling that he has a clue about the business whereas I think Vince has somewhat lost touch. As I say, I'm interested by this and it's a good thing.

Russo's only real positive in the attitude era was the Deadly Games tournament at the 1998 Survivor Series which was excellent. But other than that he was poor, then he went to WCW in 1999 and the rest is history. Though it wasn't all his fault, but he must take some blame.

 

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So, other than Punk winning at the PPV, I think the best thing to come out of it was Daniel Bryan walking away with the MitB briefcase. I never saw that coming, at all... I honestly figured it was going to be Barrett or Sheamus. I hope they actually use this to make him a real star, instead of making him the first MitB winner not to win on his cash-in match. It was almost surreal with the PPV being in Chicago, where ROH is/was huge, having both Danielson and Punk winning their matches... especially with how big those two wins were.

I also thought that while Christian/Orton wasn't quite as good as I was hoping, the ending and Orton completely losing it were incredibly well done. Christian goaded Orton into finally losing it and getting DQ'd, and with the title changing hands, we witnessed a transformation of Orton back to his completely unstable self... here's to hoping that he keeps on with that version of his character, as it's probably the best version of him.

 

[Springsteen]

I think Bryan should cash in RVD style, asking for a Title match rather than cashing in on a downed opponent because I've seen that as more a heel thing to do, plus I think he would look better going that way.

Agree on Orton, he was fantastic in early 2009 in that persona.

 

[retro]

I think Bryan should cash in RVD style, asking for a Title match rather than cashing in on a downed opponent because I've seen that as more a heel thing to do, plus I think he would look better going that way.

Agree on Orton, he was fantastic in early 2009 in that persona.

I agree 100% on Bryan... I was going to mention it, and then got distracted by other stuff. It fits with his character perfectly, and should be the way it happens in my opinion.

 

[Springsteen]

CM Punk Tshirt on ebay. Rare item this. I'd love to have it.

Also the talk is Sin Cara's probably not coming back.

Because of this, Rey's in for a big push, not a Title winning push, but something big.

 

[retro]

Damn you Cara... I don't want to see Rey on my TV more than I do already. But wait, maybe that means they'll move him back to Smackdown. I loved Rey back in WCW, but fucking hell... I'm so damn sick and tired of watching guys unrealistically flop themselves on the middle rope so he can do his fucking 619. Stuff like that very rarely happens in anyone else's matches, so it's ridiculous that it goes on 5-6 times during a Rey match.

 

[Springsteen]

This is a couple of days old but it will never ever get old.

CM Punk crashed the joint Mattel/WWE panel—WWE: Past, Present and Future—this afternoon at the San Diego Comic-Con, featuring Triple H, Rey Mysterio and WWE Hall of Famer Bret Hart.

Punk announced himself via bullhorn and then, with the WWE Championship in hand, sauntered to the designated question-asking microphone and began to speak. The Straight Edge Superstar took exception to WWE attempting to crown a new champion on Raw and then challenged Mysterio, or anyone else who wanted to be champ, to head out to Chicago to take him on.

Punk then asked Triple H and creative writer Brian Gewirtz why Zack Ryder wasn’t on television. Triple H, in what appeared to be a kayfabe response, told Punk that things had changed on Raw and there was a new regime. He told Punk to give him a call. Punk responded by telling Hunter that he was certain Stephanie had his number.

IGN

Here's the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NAvDqglbAE&

CM Punk is the greatest man in the world.

 

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:24:

I haven't kept up on anything this week... that's fucking awesome. This is what the Brian Pillman storyline should've been.

 

[Springsteen]

I want to erect a statue of Raw and put it in my back garden because it was that awesome. Two really good WWE Title matches, and CM Punk coming back, to his ROH music no less. Just awesome stuff. Let's get something straight, this HAD to be Cena winning tonight, it couldn't have been Rey because the feud had to be with Cena, it couldn't have been with The Miz, because it had to be Cena. Punk/Cena at Summerslam seems to be the direction which is pretty great especially given the circumstances of the feud. The general direction of the show is really good at the moment too. JR coming back was good too, I'm not 100% that it's permanent but Triple H seemed to indicate it probably is, which is good news too. But yeah, Punk/Cena, what a feud.

 

[retro]

I went from being pissed after Rey won the belt at the beginning of the show, to elated at Cena winning it at the end (cause I knew that had to mean Punk was going to show up)... then when he did show up I popped, big time... especially since it was his ROH music. JR returning was awesome, and I loved seeing Zack Ryder actually making an appearance on RAW, and squashing Cole no less. I also have to admit that I laughed my ass off watching Cole come to the ring as the King of Kings. :24:

 

[Springsteen]

Oh yeah Cole was pretty good too. Him and JR on commentary could work if they play it right. Maybe Cole just leaving halfway through some shows through sheer anger. Zack Ryder on raw was awesome too. This man is great too. Seemed pretty happy about it on Twitter too.

 

[retro]

Great Dave Lagana blog about a Hall of Famer that may have saved Punk's WWE career...

http://iwantwrestling.com/2011/07/26/hall-of-famer-saved-cm-punk/