The Left Wing vs Right Wing World (INFOGRAPHIC)

[kelvin070]

He's a squirmy little devil when cornered, ain't he?

I was never cornered for your info.

 

[Alien Allen]

This happened last month. G20 2009: Police Attack Students at University of Pittsburgh
YouTube - G20 2009: Police Attack Students at University of Pittsburgh

Nice overdub by the person claiming to be speaking on behalf of the police on the loudspeaker :24:


"This is a police action" :24::24::24:

You need to come up with some better shit than a bunch of punks protesting at the G20

 

[Accountable]

Democratics -- Want to help everyone and leave no one behind

That was Bush's line.

Republicans-- Want to let people help themselves and leave behind everyone else

That's all politicians, m'dear. Widen your focus.

Centrists-- Want to open a beer and watch them fight about it

Drink your cyber-beer until you're 18, then you've got the responsibility of not letting them fuck everything up too much.

 

[Tangerine]

I was never cornered for your info.

You also never answered the questions. You never answer ANY questions. You make a weak point, someone challenges you on it, and you immediately change the focus to something completely unrelated. You've done it several times in this thread alone. You cannot support ANY of the things you seem to say.

 

[kelvin070]

Nice overdub by the person claiming to be speaking on behalf of the police on the loudspeaker :24:


"This is a police action" :24::24::24:

You need to come up with some better shit than a bunch of punks protesting at the G20

I can understand you guys defensive nature abt this. Its only natural.

 

[Alien Allen]

I can understand you guys defensive nature abt this. Its only natural.

What is defensive? I see you are trolling about again

People that assemble illegally are told to break it up. For some unknown reason the idiots want to ignore what they are told. Nobody got the shit beat out of em. Just got pepper sprayed. Where as in some places they would get caned. Now where does that happen anyway??

 

[kelvin070]

At least such incidents will never happen here.

 

[Tangerine]

At least such incidents will never happen here.

Right, because your citizens know that they have far worse to fear than pepper spray for speaking out against their government. Surely that's not something you are proud of?

 

[Alien Allen]

At least such incidents will never happen here.

No shit sherlock you have repression and people get the shit really beat out of em if they even think of speaking out :24:

Singaporeans certainly have freedom of speech as long as they don't defame our leaders or speak in public without a permit or insult civil servants. Freedom of speech subject to Singapore laws is still freedom. I guess the N. Koreans also have freedom of speech subject to N. Korean laws.

Diary of A Singaporean Mind: Singapore has Freedom of Speech....

Like I said you good little folks mind your own business and don't stir up shit and it is all good to go

 

[kelvin070]

We better stop short here before I am accused of trolling again.

 

[Tangerine]

We better stop short here before I am accused of trolling again.

Or because you have zero to back up your statements as usual?

 

[kelvin070]

If I go on I will be accused of trolling.

 

[Alien Allen]

In a brief session this morning, District Court Judge Jasvender Kaur found Dr Chee Soon Juan and Mr Yap Keng Ho guilty of speaking in public without a permit.

She, however, postponed sentencing because the Deputy Public Prosecutor wanted time to finalise its position on the remaining charges. Dr Chee and Mr Yap are charged a total of eight counts under the Public Entertainment and Meetings Act. All the charges relate to events during the elections in 2006 while Dr Chee and his colleagues were out selling The New Democrat to raise funds for the campaign. Today's conviction was for the second charge.

The Judge wanted to hear the Attorney-General's position on the remaining six charges before passing sentence. Sentencing date has been fixed for next Friday, 30 May.

Prior to this case, Dr Chee has been to prison six times: Four for public speaking, one for attempting to leave the country without a permit, and one for scandalising the Judiciary.

Without the fundamental freedoms of speech, association and assembly, it is impossible to change public policy that affect the everyday lives of the people especially in a system where the elections are controlled by the PAP.

Freedom of speech is not the abstract concept that has nothing to do with how Singaporeans live their lives. On the contrary, Singaporeans find themselves in the position where they have insufficient CPF savings, Ministers dole out to themselves huge amounts of cash, control state funds in secrecy, raise the GST without regard to the poor, etc all because Singaporeans do not have their fundamental right to speak out and oppose the Government.

The Singapore Democrats have repeatedly warned that there is a price to pay for the lack of such freedoms and democratic safeguards.

you guys just crack me up :24::24::24::24:

 

[Tangerine]

If I go on I will be accused of trolling.

You've already been accused of trolling. That's because you make statements and then refuse to back them up. I'm offering you the chance to back it up to PREVENT the appearance of trolling.

 

[Alien Allen]

If I go on I will be accused of trolling.

chicken shit

Cut and run when the going gets tough :24:

 

[Accountable]

What is defensive? I see you are trolling about again

People that assemble illegally are told to break it up. For some unknown reason the idiots want to ignore what they are told. Nobody got the shit beat out of em. Just got pepper sprayed. Where as in some places they would get caned. Now where does that happen anyway??

I have a problem calling a constitutional right an illegal assembly. They were peaceful, from what I could tell.

Sorry to derail.

 

[Alien Allen]

You've already been accused of trolling. That's because you make statements and then refuse to back them up. I'm offering you the chance to back it up to PREVENT the appearance of trolling.

57 seconds on the clip :24:

YouTube - Mike Singletary Rant - Vernon Davis

 

[kelvin070]

chicken shit

Cut and run when the going gets tough :24:

When the going gets tough, the tough gets going. I said enough in this thread and thanks for the tokenz. Just wait for my next thread

 

[Alien Allen]

I have a problem calling a constitutional right an illegal assembly. They were peaceful, from what I could tell.

Sorry to derail.

Yes there is a fine line there

You let the assembly occur and get out of hand and you do have a full blown riot. Or you stop what appears to have a strong potential to get out of control before it does.

There is a precedent for getting permits for certain types of assemblies. I assume it is done so the police has advance notice so they can have proper crowd control.

When people amass and it turns into a mob which this had the potential I do not see a problem with dispersing the crowd.

 

[Tangerine]

I have a problem calling a constitutional right an illegal assembly. They were peaceful, from what I could tell.

Sorry to derail.

From what you could tell. Key point.

It's been long established by law and upheld by the SCOTUS that "peaceable assembly" can still be held held to legal standards like requiring permits, and following the instructions of law enforcement as to where they may gather and how they must behave.

All it takes is ONE protester to cross a line and commit an aggressive act and the rules change. Police have the responsibility to protect others and others property. If a crowd begins to get physical or uncooperative, it's their job to control and/or disperse them. Without knowing and seeing everything that happened BEFORE that video began, we can't know if the police actions were justifed or not. It's my experience that police these days are better trained and far more tolerant than in decades past - partly BECAUSE of the advent of private video and the ability to publicly display their actions. Again, I also don't see any evidence that a single person was harmed.