Jesus Christ! Has anyone read my previous posts where I laid out more personal information that I usually would. I live the " system ". So do my friends and family and it fucking works for us. It also works for other Canadian members on this board. Are we special or the norm. You tell me what category we fall into.
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Jesus Christ! Has anyone read my previous posts where I laid out more personal information that I usually would. I live the " system ". So do my friends and family and it fucking works for us. It also works for other Canadian members on this board. Are we special or the norm. You tell me what category we fall into.
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What was he supposed to life off of. Love or fresh air?
Doctors live in very nice houses here as well as drive the fanciest of cars. How come? System broken?
I'm aware of that but what happens to the bill? Do they mail it to some random rich guy to look after or chase the poor sucker until the end of time or he goes bankrupt?
It is your right to be able to buy insurance. Weather or not you can afford it is another issue isn't it?
Sneakiecat
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A friend of the family was in the hospital a few months ago after almost having a stroke and breathing issues. He has no insurance. They put him on a payment plan.
Minor Axis
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I've got the solution. Pass a law that says no matter how big your medical bill is, you can only be billed $39.95 per month. That would be too easy! 
Ah... the old freedom 85 plan. I've heard of that one. Count me out please.
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
Why are the liberals playing games with this? Why don't they have the balls to just come up with the single payer system which is their end goal?? This is a farce to think that is not what they really want.
And when that does happen what makes one think we will still have private insurance available? Is that the case in other countries? In particular Canada and Britain??
And when that does happen what makes one think we will still have private insurance available? Is that the case in other countries? In particular Canada and Britain??
What exactly do you mean by private insurance?
In Canada we have private insurance that covers things like ambulance rides, semi-private rooms vs: a ward, drugs, eyeglasses etc. The list is endless. Does it cover things like doctors? Nope nor should it. That's why we have the gov't based health insurance.
With the coverage I have between both gov't and private there really isn't a lot I have to worry about as far as my wallet is concerned.
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
Private insurance is what we now have. Something like Blue Cross. Do you have insurance if you wanted to buy it that would cover doctor and hospital care that the govt won't cover?? For example getting an operation that the govt won't cover.
Meirionnydd
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Canada and the UK have private insurance options.
As does Australia, New Zealand, France, the Netherlands, Germany... Alright, basically every western country with universal health care has private health insurance.
Maybe our insurance plans here are more affordable and offer better service because (I only pay about $14.50 a month for extras cover) if the private companies decide to screw you over, you can always say 'Fuck you, i'm going to a public hospital'.
About the only thing I can think of that our gov't insurance doesn't cover is getting ones nuts snipped. Can we get private ins. for that type of stuff? Nope.
Oh ya, I forgot to mention before that me and Mrs. Guyzerr's private ins. also covers 80% dental and long term disibility with a life ins. policy included for $36.00 month combined with all that other stuff. You got that kind of deal down there?
cam elle toe
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I dont have private insurance, but have always recieved the best of care ABSOLUTELY FREE every time I have had to go to hospital
Private cover ensures you get to go to a private hospital and have the doctor of your choice.
You only wait if you are having "elective" surgery (as a public patient). Emergency surgery is free and instant.
We pay a medicare levy to the government, and I think the system works fairly well
Private cover ensures you get to go to a private hospital and have the doctor of your choice.
You only wait if you are having "elective" surgery (as a public patient). Emergency surgery is free and instant.
We pay a medicare levy to the government, and I think the system works fairly well
cam elle toe
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My OH went to the Dr about a "problem"
he was advised to see the specialist, but couldnt get in for a few weeks so....
We went through the emergency section at the local hospital. He had the op the next day and was back on his feet within a week.
Its our nurses who are severely underpaid, not our doctors
My OH went to the Dr about a "problem"
he was advised to see the specialist, but couldnt get in for a few weeks so....
We went through the emergency section at the local hospital. He had the op the next day and was back on his feet within a week.
Its our nurses who are severely underpaid, not our doctors
Minor Axis
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If you don't mind sitting in the ER for several hours, that is an option. And if you don't want to sit in the ER, call for an ambulance to get right in.
The equivalent applies here too. Each working person pays roughly 9 pence in the £1 as a tax that goes towards the National Health Service. I have no problem with that either as a taxpayer.
I needed a blood test recently and my local G.P. (do you have those in Aus land?) gave me a form, marked up some stuff and said "It runs on Saturday, 8.30-11.30am if weekends are better for you" (which they were). That was on the Thursday.
Saturday came and there was one person in the queue before me. Was seen and sorted in less than ten minutes. Results back this Wednesday to my G.P.
I suppose the question is - would I rather have that money back in my pocket to decide when and where I get healthcare and with whom? Personally - I'm happy with the system. If I ever can't work, at least I'll have peace of mind that I'm not going to be stuck for healthcare that I then have to pay back.
That culture of thinking is one reason I'd prefer to live in Canada as opposed to America due to the culture of thinking.
Accountable
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Jesus Christ! If I brought you groceries every day that would work for you, too, wouldn't it? Never mind that I'm shelling out more than I make, it works for you. Then when I go broke I start stealing so that you can have your daily food ... it still works for you. Jesus Christ! As long as it works for you who gives a fuck, right?
Accountable
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Ah. Excellent point. Thanks.
I remember a few years back now our government was bitching about how much money it would take to go 'national'. There was no way we could afford it, blah, blah blah....
After how many TRILLIONS we have given to Wall Street these past several months, to the tune of over One Hundred Thousand Dollars of debt for each and every tax payer, and how much we have spent on a bogus war, those pleas sound a bit 'off' in my humble opinion.
More likely, the lobby of Health Care doesn't want to see their profits go down w/a national health care system. Period.
We had to drop our $600+/mo 4 $3,000 deductible insurance because it was either put food on the table or pay for shitty coverage. It's a racket. Just like everything else. It sucks. Gee, a reasonable monthly fee for coverage? Cant have that can we? We're too busy bailing out corporations that our government officials are invested in.uke:
After how many TRILLIONS we have given to Wall Street these past several months, to the tune of over One Hundred Thousand Dollars of debt for each and every tax payer, and how much we have spent on a bogus war, those pleas sound a bit 'off' in my humble opinion.
More likely, the lobby of Health Care doesn't want to see their profits go down w/a national health care system. Period.
We had to drop our $600+/mo 4 $3,000 deductible insurance because it was either put food on the table or pay for shitty coverage. It's a racket. Just like everything else. It sucks. Gee, a reasonable monthly fee for coverage? Cant have that can we? We're too busy bailing out corporations that our government officials are invested in.
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