The Bengazi fiasco

[Johnfromokc]

Nobody is as hateful as the conservotard teabilly right. You boyz win the prize.

 

[Alien Allen]

Johnny the left has a lot of hate it dispenses also in case you missed it.

I don't see a lot of comments about the nonsense Schultz spews out. For example

Our country has had many instances of people getting their loud voices aired over the years.

Supporters of that crap call it just somebody being passionate

The best way to confront it is with reasonable responses

and that is what I expected

just another cartoon

 

[The Man]

No mosque attacks, but numerous instances in the US where people who practice Islam are having a VERY hard time building a place of worship legally in the U.S.

I think part of the reason you don't see numerous protests like you do overseas is you 1.Peoples lives don't generally suck that bad in the US and they actually have other things to do 2. They know if it got "ugly" they (American) government wouldn't allow it.

We are a peaceful bunch given our current economical social development as a country in general, but even then, some could argue our death rate due to crime is much higher compared to those other countries with the same economic / social standing.

No mosque attacks, but numerous instances in the US where people who practice Islam are having a VERY hard time building a place of worship legally in the U.S.

We have about 1200 to 1300 mosques here
Not a bad number for 1 to 2 percent of the population.
If such a hard time...they why do they keep going up?
Things get turned down all the time...you just cant put a church anywhere..Zoning laws etc to deal with.
80 percent of the mosques are Saudi funded by Wahhabism....you do not want Wahhabism here at all its a radical sect of Islam.

I think part of the reason you don't see numerous protests like you do overseas is you 1.Peoples lives don't generally suck that bad in the US and they actually have other things to do 2. They know if it got "ugly" they (American) government wouldn't allow it.

Or perhaps we are not filled with radicals ...joe...fill us with radicals and it will happen.

We are a peaceful bunch given our current economical social development as a country in general, but even then, some could argue our death rate due to crime is much higher compared to those other countries with the same economic / social standing

Inter social problems yes...But religious intolerance is far from the motivation for our violence within.

 

[The Man]

Per the other thread I had asked myself, most likely about his pro hawk stance on something. Per this thread, be curious just to the comment he made per America being a more peaceful society (or along those lines).

I've personally found that those who have never had bullets whizzing by their head are usually the first who want to go to war. You also realize if you've ever had bullets whizzing by your head that sometimes it's one lack of humanity that helps win wars, and there is the rub.

The only slam I would make is that with a screen name of "The man", he damn well better of served lol

I give out very little personal details on here.
I am from Missouri is about all anyone will get out of me
I could be white,black,mexican,jew .....I will say this though..I am not French

That's why I want to know. After the Marine Barracks bombing in Beirut I carried a hatred for Muslims that took me decades to get over. I lost buddies there. That shit affects you. Over time, and through shitloads of heated discussions - some of them with you Joe, I realized my hatred was only hurting me. I finally began to understand the statement "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter."

So fuck yeah, I wanna know if TM is a vet or a balless chickenhawk.

You admit your bias and your inability to give non biased opinion.
You should have never hated em all John...but it is ok to have a huge dislike for the radicals.
You may want to hang on to that part John.

 

[The Man]

And I hope you realize that I'm not naive enough not to realize that there are muslims who do mean harm to others who don't practice the Islam faith.

That said, take a poor afghan boy being raised by his religious nut father, how is the boy supposed to know any different?

I have no doubt that if you took the law out of the US, you'd have some pretty hard core religious nuts doing the same thing here as they are over in the sandbox.

The question then becomes does your life suck so much that you have to embrace religion to use it as a motivator for hatred of others who don't think like you do? In the sandbox, I'm guess the odds are that your life sucks more, thus it's easier to embrace religious radicalism.

Bingo..which is why we need to do something now...its growing pretty fast.

 

[The Man]

What's the relevance? If you would explain that then maybe you'll get an answer.
I suspect you just want to set him up for some kind of slam. There's no doubt in my mind that that's what John wants to do. He never has a real point.

Exactly...what does my personal business have to do whether or not the public was mislead in regard to the Benghazi incident

 

[Joe the meek]

I give out very little personal details on here.

Only asking if you served your country, not your enlistment date, what your MOS was or where you were stationed.

I believe you answered my questioned in a round a bout way, considering the fact that you didn't have a problem answering another question of mine per your past work history in another thread.

And it does give me a little more insight on what kind of man you are.

 

[Joe the meek]

Exactly...what does my personal business have to do whether or not the public was mislead in regard to the Benghazi incident

Funny isn't it that you didn't quote Accountale's quote mentioning that he couldn't argue with my line of reasoning for asking you that question (if you served your country).

 

[Johnfromokc]

Funny isn't it that you didn't quote Accountale's quote mentioning that he couldn't argue with my line of reasoning for asking you that question (if you served your country).

TM never served his country. He is a typical teabilly conservotard chickenhawk. From now on I'll call him "The Chickenhawk" or mayebe even better "The Chickenshit".

 

[Minor Axis]

Exactly...what does my personal business have to do whether or not the public was mislead in regard to the Benghazi incident

I think there are legitimate questions, and an investigation about why the U.S. was unprepared for the attack should take place. Was it something that should have been anticipated? If there were mistakes, who made them, and how should they be punished if at all? But these things should be happening behind closed doors as a National Security issue, not every detail splashed all over the news media, not something to try to gain advantage in an election cycle. This is something that has been politicized from the start, first by Romney, the day after when he had no idea what he was sounding off about. If you recall, he was incensed we were apologizing for the attack! Course he had his head up his ass. And I don't think I've heard anything from McCain about his concerns to why the Benghazi Consulate was inadequately defended. Maybe he has said something about this, but most of his anger seems to be manifested in Susan Rice. I heard that he and she don't like each other anyway and it sounds like this is payback.

As noted on Morning Joe (MSNBC) this morning, it's interesting that if you are going to be political, you'd take some heed, make note of the demographic groups who rejected your party in the last Presidential election, and choose not to make the first big post election political conflict, a fight between old white guys and a respected, younger female black diplomat. I realize this should not make any difference if the woman is incompetent, but indications are she was promoting the approved unclassified talking points. You can also note in her original statements, the summation was that the initial unrest involved a video, but then it turned into something else although Al Queda was not mentioned, I believe on purpose. Obama said in a press conference, "if you want to go after someone, go after me." Maybe they should take his advice and leave Rice alone.

The other accusation is "coverup". So we have an attack and 4 people dead including the American Ambassador. If the assumption is the coverup was to help Obama in the election, the most damaging information has all ready been released. From the election standpoint, as far as swaying votes, what advantage is there to say Al Queda was or was not involved?

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[Minor Axis]

The GOP may not have cornered the market on hypocrisy, but they are trying hard. Based on the Susan Rice attacks, it makes you wonder why Colin Powell was never held responsible by the Republicans for his U.N. presentation about Iraqi WMDs, that did not exist. Actually I'm not wondering at all...

 

[Johnfromokc]

TM - aka "The Chickenhawk" made a sign for a teatard rally:

 

[Minor Axis]

TM - aka "The Chickenhawk" made a sign for a teatard rally:

But is he a good "trader"? (add Southern accent for full effect) Is this a real sign? How embarrassing to American Higher Education. Who the heall are these people?

 

[Johnfromokc]

But is he a good "trader"? (add Southern accent for full effect) Is this a real sign? How embarrassing to American Higher Education. Who the heall are these people?

You know those Missouri teatards. There is a reason the GOP is always pushing to cut public education funding and dumb down curriculum. They gotta have people dumb enough to believe Hannity, Limbaugh and FOX that will vote for them.

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[Johnfromokc]

Where did all the teatards go?

 

[Johnfromokc]