Student Tasering at the University of Florida

[All Else Failed]

I totally disagree with this kid's behavior. He acted like a child. He took the podium in an aggressive demeanor and whether he realizes it or not that demeanor can and is looked at as violent, yes words can be considered violent. Maybe he should take an ethics class and get an edumacation in regards to that.

He was asked to step away and because he 'thinks' his behavior is acceptable (which it isn't) he is then all butt-hurt/shocked that the police are telling him to leave. So then what does the rocket scientist do? He then decides to make more of a scene and resist arrest, cuss at the cops, etc.

If 5 to 7 cops were around him and the cuffs were still not on him, it is only rational to say that is because the guy was still resisting arrest. I'm not surprised that he got tazzed. He was out of control and would not cooperate.

We do have a right to speak our mind, but at the same token we are responsible and held accountable for our behavior. And how we choose to come across to others is part of that behavior that we are held accountable for. The guy was acting like an unpredictable pompous horsearse and imo from what I've seen on the 3 videos and read in the two articles, the cops actions were justified.

I really really really don't see any violence in how he spoke. He was just passionate.

It was the police that acted aggressively towards him. If you watch the complete video, they just seem to lunge at him in mid question for no reason at all. He was RIGHT to pull away from their grappling. Just because they have a badge doesn't make them "god". If an officer is leveling unjust actions towards you, you have the duty as a citizen of a free country to resit that office to the best of your abilities.

I agree that he was nagging a bit, but that in no way warrants the tasering. There were what, 4 fully grown men on top of him restraining him? They could have EASILY cuffed him. Also, when you ask an officer what you are being arrested for, they by law have to tell you why, he asked them several times why he was being detained, and they did not answer, they broke the law.

I don't see anything disagreeable in his actions. They lunged at him for no reason, they were dragging him out of the place unjustly, and he tried to get away, which he was right in doing.

 

[GraceAbounds]

I watched all three videos in their entirety. I also read both articles in their entirety.

It isn't really a big surprise that you and I would have different perspectives on this topic is it? So I see no sense in going back and forth.

You have your take on it and I have mine.

 

[Homer]

I really really really don't see any violence in how he spoke. He was just passionate.

It was the police that acted aggressively towards him. If you watch the complete video, they just seem to lunge at him in mid question for no reason at all. He was RIGHT to pull away from their grappling. Just because they have a badge doesn't make them "god". If an officer is leveling unjust actions towards you, you have the duty as a citizen of a free country to resit that office to the best of your abilities.

I agree that he was nagging a bit, but that in no way warrants the tasering. There were what, 4 fully grown men on top of him restraining him? They could have EASILY cuffed him. Also, when you ask an officer what you are being arrested for, they by law have to tell you why, he asked them several times why he was being detained, and they did not answer, they broke the law.

I don't see anything disagreeable in his actions. They lunged at him for no reason, they were dragging him out of the place unjustly, and he tried to get away, which he was right in doing.

you want me to feel sorry for someone find me someone who deserves it not some ass that brought it on himself/set it all up.

 

[All Else Failed]

you want me to feel sorry for someone find me someone who deserves it not some ass that brought it on himself/set it all up.

Um, he didn't bring it upon himself...at all....

 

[All Else Failed]

I watched all three videos in their entirety. I also read both articles in their entirety.

It isn't really a big surprise that you and I would have different perspectives on this topic is it? So I see no sense in going back and forth.

You have your take on it and I have mine.

I just don't see how you can say he deserved to be shocked for exercising his rights.

 

[dt3]

Hey, AEF. You're wrong.


That is all.

 

[GraceAbounds]

I just don't see how you can say he deserved to be shocked for exercising his rights.

Then try reading my post again. I was very clear.

 

[All Else Failed]

Hey, AEF. You're wrong.


That is all.

nah.

 

[All Else Failed]

The thing is, the ONLY point were he resisted, supposedly, is when he was LUNGED at by the cops. THAT is violence perpetrated against a citizen, he had the right to resist, even if you can call that resistance.

 

[dt3]

The thing is, the ONLY point were he resisted, supposedly, is when he was LUNGED at by the cops. THAT is violence perpetrated against a citizen, he had the right to resist, even if you can call that resistance.

The ONLY point he resisted was when they attempted to arrest him. Hence the resisting arrest.

If he felt it was unjust, why didn't he go peacefully and sort it out in private. If they truly had nothing on him at that point, he'd be free to go.

Because of the way he handled the situation (which is suspect if you read Amber's link), he exacerbated the situation and it escalated.

 

[All Else Failed]

The ONLY point he resisted was when they attempted to arrest him. Hence the resisting arrest.

If he felt it was unjust, why didn't he go peacefully and sort it out in private. If they truly had nothing on him at that point, he'd be free to go.

Because of the way he handled the situation (which is suspect if you read Amber's link), he exacerbated the situation and it escalated.

Ah, key point here. When they went after him for the first time, what were they arresting him for? He had done nothing wrong up to the point.

 

[Boomer]

I can imagine alot of you are agreeing. I mean hell, you dont even want AEF to express himself in his own thread.

 

[dt3]

Ah, key point here. When they went after him for the first time, what were they arresting him for? He had done nothing wrong up to the point.

I don't know. But if there was no reason, the situation could've been resolved elsewhere. I don't know what rules the University set forth for attending the event.

 

[dt3]

I can imagine alot of you are agreeing. I mean hell, you dont even want AEF to express himself in his own thread.

So because he made the thread, we can't disagree with him in it?

 

[All Else Failed]

I don't know. But if there was no reason, the situation could've been resolved elsewhere. I don't know what rules the University set forth for attending the event.

Exactly, you don't know because there was no reason!!!

 

[Boomer]

Hey, AEF. You're wrong.


That is all.

Its not what you say, its how you say it Donnie.

I mean, from your standards I should tazer you right now for disagreeing with him and speaking in such a manner.

 

[dt3]

Exactly, you don't know because there was no reason!!!

Exactly, you don't know because there was no reason!!!

No, I don't know because I wasn't the cop on the scene. I don't know the rules at UF for the event. The article Amber posted says his mic was cut because he said something sexually explicit. To me, that would warrant his removal from the area. I'd bet their intent wasn't to arrest him, but to remove him. He put up a fight and was arrested.

 

[All Else Failed]

No, I don't know because I wasn't the cop on the scene. I don't know the rules at UF for the event. The article Amber posted says his mic was cut because he said something sexually explicit. To me, that would warrant his removal from the area. I'd bet their intent wasn't to arrest him, but to remove him. He put up a fight and was arrested.

Well when someone lunges at you for no real reason to violently drag you out of a building, I don't blame him for resisting.

 

[dt3]

Well when someone lunges at you for no real reason to violently drag you out of a building, I don't blame him for resisting.

And that's where we disagree. And I'll leave it at that :horse

God I love that horse smiley.

 

[Homer]

Um, he didn't bring it upon himself...at all....

BS he staged the whole thing he may have gotten more then he wanted but thats it.