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I understand. There is racism no matter where you go but not all issues of culture or immigration are related to racism.

True, but as someone who has seen it first hand in Australia, it is largely. The main problem they have there is with the Aboriginals, the people who were there first, who's land they took, who's people they killed, who's kids they snatched, who's people have a life expectancy 30 years less than the whites there today and who they have only just this week appologised to for it!
 
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It's hard to just "get over something" when I'm trying to learn, paying $75k a year to learn it .. and can't because the teacher speaks/writes like this:


African American Vernacular English - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I took an online class .. and it took me forever to translate what the teacher (and some of the class I had to respond to) were saying .. and it was just text that I was reading (not a voice I was hearing).
 

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True, but as someone who has seen it first hand in Australia, it is largely. The main problem they have there is with the Aboriginals, the people who were there first, who's land they took, who's people they killed, who's kids they snatched, who's people have a life expectancy 30 years less than the whites there today and who they have only just this week appologised to for it!
I have no clue at all how the Australian government works but do those people have representation in their parliament, congress?
 

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It's hard to just "get over something" when I'm trying to learn, paying $75k a year to learn it .. and can't because the teacher speaks/writes like this:


African American Vernacular English - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I took an online class .. and it took me forever to translate what the teacher (and some of the class I had to respond to) were saying .. and it was just text that I was reading (not a voice I was hearing).

Jesus girl 75K a year in tuition? Where are you going, Rolls Royce University?
 

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It's hard to just "get over something" when I'm trying to learn, paying $75k a year to learn it .. and can't because the teacher speaks/writes like this:


African American Vernacular English - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I took an online class .. and it took me forever to translate what the teacher (and some of the class I had to respond to) were saying .. and it was just text that I was reading (not a voice I was hearing).
So the dialects are that different?
Do those who speak that dialect have the same trouble understanding you?
 

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It's like 15k a year .. so with intrest it'll total up to right at 75k for 4 years. My books and some supplies (but not nearly enough) are included in that price. I pay to go to a small school (class rooms with less than 25 students) that specializes in my chosen program.
 

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I have no clue at all how the Australian government works but do those people have representation in their parliament, congress?

I'm not entirely sure on that but I doubt they get too much seeing the way they have been treated. I feel very optomistic though that the new government under Kevin Ruud will move it on in leaps and bounds. He's not a paranoid racist like the former PM, John Howard and has already taken three big positive steps for Australia, signed the Kyoto (or however you spell it) environmental treaty, appologied to the Aboriginals (which John Howard refused point blank to do) and pulled the troops out of Iraq. I'm hopeful that he will reverse John Howards blanket ban on African refugees too.:)
 

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I'm not entirely sure on that but I doubt they get too much seeing the way they have been treated. I feel very optomistic though that the new government under Kevin Ruud will move it on in leaps and bounds. He's not a paranoid racist like the former PM, John Howard and has already taken three big positive steps for Australia, signed the Kyoto (or however you spell it) environmental treaty, appologied to the Aboriginals (which John Howard refused point blank to do) and pulled the troops out of Iraq. I'm hopeful that he will reverse John Howards blanket ban on African refugees too.:)
In the US I do not know of any apologies by the federal government, maybe there is by individual states. I really do not know.
 

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So the dialects are that different?
Do those who speak that dialect have the same trouble understanding you?

Sometimes it is that different .. they abbreviate so far from the original word .. unless you already are familiar with what they ar etalking about .. sometimes you just never get it fully.

I have never had anyone who spoke that way misunderstand me.

It's sorta like this .. you have 2 types of handwriting .. Type 1: the kind that is clearly legible, and Type 2: the type that looks like a Dr's handwriting.

I speak like type 1 (although I do have an accent .. but that isn't what we're talking about here), the people I am talking about speak like type 2.
 

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You would be called a racist in the US for that attitude.
Would you agree with that label? Because I can't really see anything remotely racist in what I wrote. I wasn't even talking about races.

It's complicated but Australia is a different culture. I was shocked over there with how widespread racism is. I think that probably is best there right now to gradually overcome this problem first.
I totally disagree. Racism here seems far less widespread than in the United States, at least from what I've seen, and certainly less than countries like France, India and Zimbabwe.

I have no clue at all how the Australian government works but do those people have representation in their parliament?
Not specifically, the way NZ does with the Maori population, but that is not to say there aren't Aboriginal parliamentarians (can't remember if there are any currently, but there have been in the past... Aden Ridgeway was a Democrats senator for a while).
 

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Sometimes it is that different .. they abbreviate so far from the original word .. unless you already are familiar with what they ar etalking about .. sometimes you just never get it fully.

I have never had anyone who spoke that way misunderstand me.

It's sorta like this .. you have 2 types of handwriting .. Type 1: the kind that is clearly legible, and Type 2: the type that looks like a Dr's handwriting.

I speak like type 1 (although I do have an accent .. but that isn't what we're talking about here), the people I am talking about speak like type 2.
One speaks an english you can understand and another does not?
 

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One speaks an english you can understand and another does not?
yes that is exactly correct.

One speaks grammatically correct english (the kind you are "supposed" to learn in school .. basedon the phoenics system) .. the other alters that english and basically turns it into a sub language that is based on abbreviated versions of the words .. verbs/adjectives, ect.
 

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yes that is exactly correct.

One speaks grammatically correct english (the kind you are "supposed" to learn in school .. basedon the phoenics system) .. the other alters that english and basically turns it into a sub language that is based on abbreviated versions of the words .. verbs/adjectives, ect.
Is there differences like this between nations? For example do those in the UK speak grammatically correct english as opposed to somebody in Colorado?
 

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no .. it's not regional .. it's "cultural" for whatever reason.

And US english is much different than UK english ;)
 

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no .. it's not regional .. it's "cultural" for whatever reason.

And US english is much different than UK english ;)

Damn straight! Stupid US English spell checker on fucking Bill bad haircut Gates windows! You lot are aware there is a letter u arn't you?
 

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A letter "u" in what? That letter is in a lot of words lol, it's also not in a lot of words though.
 
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