Religious Inconsistencies

[Minor Axis]

The sad fact is a long time ago, I was constantly arguing with you that not ALL Muslim people were terrorists who wanted to kill others. Your main point was that the Koran so instructed those to kill infidels and any practicing Muslim would do so.

A good example that people pick and choose which words they want to follow, what suits them, the human race is basically a bunch of hypocrites. Then there are the times they are making up their own stuff and saying it came out of some good-book...

 

[Joe the meek]

I'll certainly give you credit for spending hours upon hours digging up shit

FYI, no BS, it took all of about 10 minutes. Much easier than I thought. Just look for a topic of Muslims/Islam and bingo, you were there. Many cases where you were the one starting the thread.

 

[Stone]

Thanks for the efforts, Joe......it fills out a lot and supports what I've been thinking.
There are elements in most if not all forms of beliefs that demand blind obedience and their 'will' be the only recognized form of expression........from Christians to Muslims to Gnostics to......... Atheists.

There's been an absence of intellectual honesty in this thread and it's not difficult to see the source.

 

[Johnfromokc]

FYI, no BS, it took all of about 10 minutes. Much easier than I thought. Just look for a topic of Muslims/Islam and bingo, you were there. Many cases where you were the one starting the thread.

I know better than that but I'll let you save face. I don't blame you for not owning up to it. How was breakfast & lunch?

Thanks for the efforts, Joe......it fills out a lot and supports what I've been thinking.
There are elements in most if not all forms of beliefs that demand blind obedience and their 'will' be the only recognized form of expression........from Christians to Muslims to Gnostics to......... Atheists.

There's been an absence of intellectual honesty in this thread and it's not difficult to see the source.

Stoney-Allah you wouldn't know intellectual honesty if it walked up and bit you in your tired old Medicare and Social Security drawing geezer ass. :24:

At least learn to form a proper paragraph when you post. I bypass a lot of your shit anymore mainly because it's disorganized and sophomoric, plus, I'm on to your modus operandi and I'm bored with it.

 

[Stone]

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Stoney-Allah you wouldn't know intellectual honesty if it walked up and bit you in your tired old Medicare and Social Security drawing geezer ass. :24:

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Actually I would.......
Still searching for a rebuttal, johnny?

Or did someone tip you off you'd be wasting your time?


You fucked up :eek..........
And you're too small a man to admit it

 

[Stone]

At least learn to form a proper paragraph when you post. I bypass a lot of your shit anymore mainly because it's disorganized and sophomoric, plus, I'm on to your modus operandi and I'm bored with it.

You'd certainly be a lot safer ignoring me .........GIA discovered that a long time ago and you ought to be at least as intelligent as he is. ( ) ( btw......that was an insult )

 

[Johnfromokc]

There's no rebuttal to stupid Stoney. And GIA's making you look like an ass - you're too senile to realize it. But hey, keep on keeping on.

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[CityGirl]

Joe and John

 

[Stone]

There's no rebuttal to stupid Stoney. And GIA's making you look like an ass - you're too senile to realize it. But hey, keep on keeping on.

You have no rebuttal.......you fucked up and you're too small a man to admit it,

You fucked up

If you had a rebuttal to shove down my throat or even up my ass, you would of done it with pleasure....but the pleasure has been all mine

YOU FUCKED UP


GIA doesn't respond to my posts other than with denial, either......

 

[Tuffdisc]

Here ya go holy joe - argue this - MORE religious war in the name of some fucking god. and that was my whole point - but you're too goddamned dense to see it.

Oh looky joe jesus - more islamic and christian conflict :willy_nilly:

You keep saying that religion is causing the wars, but is it people who don't really believe in the religion they claim to believe in? Do I cause wars? Do the Catholic Church and all other Christian churches spout in the weekly address to the masses "to go to war"? If so, I must of gone to the right church that claims to be Christian

 

[Tuffdisc]

Oh, here's another fact. Has John ever gone to search for facts on atheists causing wars. His obsession has forgotten that WW1 and WW2 (54million people were killed in WW2) were created by atheists. People were sent to the Gulags in atheist Soviet Union and other Communist states around the world

 

[Tuffdisc]

My point is and always has been that you and other religious folks choose to believe what has been written in a book and there is a good chance you were indoctrinated at a young age. Really that is neither here nor there when it comes to faith. Something sounds good and people latch on to it. It is faith. It might be real, then it might not be. If you find out later, you were all wrong, what will you say then? Even if you are wrong, I see no penalty because if it was important, God would be sure that we would know exactly what the situation is, which we don't.

Even though the story makes no sense to me, it gives the faithful chills up and down their spines to know God made this sacrifice. But how much of a sacrifice was it? If you believe in the spiritual world then our true existence are as spirits and as far as I know Jesus should be up in heaven partying along side God. In human terms his death was a sacrifice. In spiritual terms not so much, would you agree?

Its like saying that I've never questioned what is written in the Bible when I started being an adult. We are wrapped up in cotton wool when we attend school about the realities of life. When I was an adult, I have questioned as to why certain things that you lot would not even consider a sin.

 

[Minor Axis]

Its like saying that I've never questioned what is written in the Bible when I started being an adult. We are wrapped up in cotton wool when we attend school about the realities of life. When I was an adult, I have questioned as to why certain things that you lot would not even consider a sin.

That's excellent, sincerely

 

[Johnfromokc]

Oh, here's another fact. Has John ever gone to search for facts on atheists causing wars. His obsession has forgotten that WW1 and WW2 (54million people were killed in WW2) were created by atheists. People were sent to the Gulags in atheist Soviet Union and other Communist states around the world

Name one war in which Athiests declared war on believers. Show the evidence there was one single Athiest declared war EVER.

Soviet Communism is a tired old excuse - the Soviets didn't give a fuck if you were religious or not. You either supported the Communist party or you were imprisoned or killed. The Catholic Church was complicit with Hitler in many ways. You religobots lost this argument long ago.



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[Mercury]

Name one war in which Athiests declared war on believers. Show the evidence there was one single Athiest declared war EVER.

Soviet Communism is a tired old excuse - the Soviets didn't give a fuck if you were religious or not. You either supported the Communist party or you were imprisoned or killed. The Catholic Church was complicit with Hitler in many ways. You religobots lost this argument long ago.



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While I am not an atheist ... I completely agree with what John says here! Well said on this one.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Name one war in which Athiests declared war on believers. Show the evidence there was one single Athiest declared war EVER.

Soviet Communism is a tired old excuse - the Soviets didn't give a fuck if you were religious or not. You either supported the Communist party or you were imprisoned or killed. The Catholic Church was complicit with Hitler in many ways. You religobots lost this argument long ago.



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Sorry, wrong again. Not complicit, that was only a few churches that couldn't tow the line. Most of the churches were against Nazism. Burning Bibles is not really a good thing, yes, the Nazis did burn other books before you state so. I haven't loss any arguments. Whether they declared war on believers or not is beside the point. Those photos only showed that Hitler met up with leaders of the church he occupied, fact there were so many priests and other bishops and Cardinals at the time that were against Nazism. They did (the Nazis) declare war. If you want to clutch at straws with nothing in your defence but call me "religobot", then you not me have lost the argument, but you should of known that by now. Evidently not. If Communists didn't care whether party members were religious or not is just pure rubbish. They persecuted people who were religious, name the reason why there are so little believers in Russia?

Hitler was born into a Christian family, but renounced his beliefs and that of his parents. Hence an atheist by any definitions. Plus a few Cardinals doesn't make the whole church "complicit", it makes those who were complicit, no more. Catholics were sent to the concentration camps simply for helping the Jews to hide. Something I doubt you would do, even though you may spout that you will do, only actions will prove if you truly would save a human from persecution, starvation etc...

Here is the reason to prove that Hitler was an atheist
http://atheismexposed.tripod.com/hitler_atheist.htm

 

[Mercury]

I also remember seeing a documentary that suggested that Hitler believed more in the ancient Norse religions, which helped cause his belief in the "perfect Aryan" race. Whether Hitler was an atheist or not, his interests were more political and social then religious. Which is the case in most wars ...

 

[Tuffdisc]

Here's prove also, that according to Hitler "Christianity <is> the liar....
"We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ca_hitler.html

I mean, isn't it obvious that Hitler was like preaching like what you are doing in this thread? Accuse me of going too far, I don't mind at all. I am sure you can question the leaders of the church, but how you go about that is probably through a priest, perhaps? I dunno, because I haven't done that before.

 

[Tuffdisc]

I also remember seeing a documentary that suggested that Hitler believed more in the ancient Norse religions, which helped cause his belief in the "perfect Aryan" race. Whether Hitler was an atheist or not, his interests were more political and social then religious. Which is the case in most wars ...

Patriotism is also a possible cause of wars. Hitler wanted to rip up the treaty of Versailles, that was also another cause of the Nazis wanting the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles