Premier League season 2010/11

[Tuffdisc]

It takes time to build a team, and Liverpool need rebuilding. Hodgson has already done a brillaint job in clearing out the dead wood of Insua, Plessis, Aquilani, Nemeth, Cavalieri etc
But he's still got the absolute rubbish of Lucas, Babel, Johnson and co to clear out.

In fact, I'd say only Reina, Agger, gerrard and Torres are of sufficient quality to challenge for a champions league place.

Since you are not really a Liverpool supporter how would you know the difference between good players and non good players, according to my bruv and I have noticed this, especially during the World Cup, Gerrard is not the player he was a couple of seasons ago. Having Torres, Reina and Agger, who Benitez bought are really insufficient for a good team. To slap Liverpool fans in the face with buying Paul Konchesky is unbelievable, and he was slamming Benitez of all managers with claiming they had an agreement (Benitez and the board), that he wouldn't buy any Liverpool players, yet he does the same thing, with inferior players, defies even more disbelief how you would suggest Hodgson is of quality

 

[Zorak]

Since you are not really a Liverpool supporter how would you know the difference between good players and non good players, according to my bruv and I have noticed this, especially during the World Cup, Gerrard is not the player he was a couple of seasons ago. Having Torres, Reina and Agger, who Benitez bought are really insufficient for a good team. To slap Liverpool fans in the face with buying Paul Konchesky is unbelievable, and he was slamming Benitez of all managers with claiming they had an agreement (Benitez and the board), that he wouldn't buy any Liverpool players, yet he does the same thing, with inferior players, defies even more disbelief how you would suggest Hodgson is of quality

lol, you have to be a Liverpool supporter to be able to rate players at Liverpool? I'd suggest you are so blinkered by your "support" that you can't see the mess Benitez left Liverpool in.
Konchesky is better than Insua, any one who watched either of them play could see that; Insua may be the worst left back Liverpool have ever had. And remember, that's a list that includes Gregory Vignal! Granted, he's probably not a long term solution though.

Rafa spent £17 million on Glen Johnson. And gave him a contract of £80,000 a week. I rest my case.
Actually, add this to the case: Aquilani for £18 million and £90,000 a week.

 

[Tuffdisc]

lol, you have to be a Liverpool supporter to be able to rate players at Liverpool? I'd suggest you are so blinkered by your "support" that you can't see the mess Benitez left Liverpool in.
Konchesky is better than Insua, any one who watched either of them play could see that; Insua may be the worst left back Liverpool have ever had. And remember, that's a list that includes Gregory Vignal! Granted, he's probably not a long term solution though.

Rafa spent £17 million on Glen Johnson. And gave him a contract of £80,000 a week. I rest my case.
Actually, add this to the case: Aquilani for £18 million and £90,000 a week.

Had we been on the same levels as other clubs in terms of finance we would of got better, since we weren't, it was any day better than getting Konchesky, it was just a run of bad misfortune that the board and their stupid attitude went and dismissed Benitez, now leaving us with a manager who gets rid of Insua. I mean Insua has more promise than Konchesky will ever dream of. And Sunday's performance proves that Konchesky is rubbish, that is why no other managers were after him

 

[Zorak]

Had we been on the same levels as other clubs in terms of finance we would of got better, since we weren't, it was any day better than getting Konchesky, it was just a run of bad misfortune that the board and their stupid attitude went and dismissed Benitez, now leaving us with a manager who gets rid of Insua. I mean Insua has more promise than Konchesky will ever dream of. And Sunday's performance proves that Konchesky is rubbish, that is why no other managers were after him

Wait, let me get this straight, you think Insua had promise? :24:

The more I speak with you, the more it becomes apparant that what you know about football could be written on the back of a postage stamp.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Wait, let me get this straight, you think Insua had promise? :24:

The more I speak with you, the more it becomes apparant that what you know about football could be written on the back of a postage stamp.

Which could be said for you then:thumbup

 

[Springsteen]

To slap Liverpool fans in the face with buying Paul Konchesky is unbelievable,

You got him because you are not the club you were, you can't attract the big players anymore because the others like Man City, Tottenham have eclipsed them in attracting the big players, sure it's to do with finances but Rafa did have the money to spend, he just spent it on dross and overpriced players while getting no return in terms of accomplishments. I mean yeah he won the Champions League and FA Cup....but what else? One Title challenge in six seasons? Yeah, really top manager.

Had we been on the same levels as other clubs in terms of finance

You did have money to spend, money was made available to spend, it's just Benitez squandered it on sub-standard players like Lucas, N'gog, Babel, Johnson.

As for Insua, he was alright, not top class though. Not saying Konchesky is by any means but he is better than Insua.

 

[Tuffdisc]

You got him because you are not the club you were, you can't attract the big players anymore because the others like Man City, Tottenham have eclipsed them in attracting the big players, sure it's to do with finances but Rafa did have the money to spend, he just spent it on dross and overpriced players while getting no return in terms of accomplishments. I mean yeah he won the Champions League and FA Cup....but what else? One Title challenge in six seasons? Yeah, really top manager.



You did have money to spend, money was made available to spend, it's just Benitez squandered it on sub-standard players like Lucas, N'gog, Babel, Johnson.

As for Insua, he was alright, not top class though. Not saying Konchesky is by any means but he is better than Insua.

This boring, will you stop including Lucas in the list, we don't have the finance to meet up to Chelsea's financial clout, that is why we got Babel, we had Malouda under our grasp that is until Murininho snapped him for Chelsea. We had no option but go for Babel

But for Hodgson to get even more of a sub standard players, is just really proving my theory that he isn't up for it

Benetiz kept Gerrard, got Torres even when Chelsea were going to get him. His performance on Sunday just proves that he misses Benetiz, I fear he won't be at Liverpool for long, at least he won't be going to Man Utd :24: they just can't afford him. No way is Konchesky better than Insua, any player is better than Konchesky. Fulham didn't want him, that is why they let him go. Remember this, Hodgson had an agreement with Fulham not to buy any players, oh what has he done....brought clap out Konchesky, why? Because Fulham didn't want him...Insua is a lot better by a mile

 

[Springsteen]

This boring, will you stop including Lucas in the list,

No, because he is a sub-standard player, certainly not good enough for a team like Liverpool, who surely have aspirations of the Title.

we don't have the finance to meet up to Chelsea's financial clout,

Again, read my original statement. I never said you didn't have the finances of Chelsea, but you do have money, or had money which was squandered by Rafael Benitez.

Benetiz kept Gerrard,

Gerrard was leaving this Summer had Rafa not been sacked, that's a fact.

No way is Konchesky better than Insua, any player is better than Konchesky.

No, he really isn't. And I never said Konchesky was a good player, just that he is better than Insua, which again is a fact.

Fulham didn't want him, that is why they let him go.

No, they let him go because they had a financial offer from Liverpool for the services of Paul Konchesky. That's how football transfers work.

Remember this, Hodgson had an agreement with Fulham not to buy any players

I don't actually remember this. Find me proof of this please.

 

[Tuffdisc]

No, because he is a sub-standard player, certainly not good enough for a team like Liverpool, who surely have aspirations of the Title.



Again, read my original statement. I never said you didn't have the finances of Chelsea, but you do have money, or had money which was squandered by Rafael Benitez.




Gerrard was leaving this Summer had Rafa not been sacked, that's a fact.



No, he really isn't. And I never said Konchesky was a good player, just that he is better than Insua, which again is a fact.



No, they let him go because they had a financial offer from Liverpool for the services of Paul Konchesky. That's how football transfers work.



I don't actually remember this. Find me proof of this please.

Loads of media outlet said so, really don't get your point either, you support man-ure, so why the hell are you bothered?

 

[Springsteen]

Said what? You've quoted my entire post without highlighting one point. If you're on about the Hodgson-Fulham agreement then all I asked for was proof because I never heard anything. I'm not calling you a liar, just I didn't hear or any such agreement myself. And I'm bothered because you bang on about Hodgson being a crap manager when he's a decent one and one that Liverpool are fortunate to have because there really aren't that many good ones out there, with relevant experience, who would contemplate Liverpool.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Said what? You've quoted my entire post without highlighting one point. If you're on about the Hodgson-Fulham agreement then all I asked for was proof because I never heard anything. I'm not calling you a liar, just I didn't hear or any such agreement myself. And I'm bothered because you bang on about Hodgson being a crap manager when he's a decent one and one that Liverpool are fortunate to have because there really aren't that many good ones out there, with relevant experience, who would contemplate Liverpool.

You never heard anything, because you have no interests in either Fulham or Liverpool, now isn't that a surprise

Where are Fulham in comparison to Liverpool under Hodgson? Erm top six in comparison to Liverpool's 13th place? And you are spouting that he is a good manager? I think it is either you being sarcastic, or you are Hodgson secret fan :24:

 

[Springsteen]

You never heard anything, because you have no interests in either Fulham or Liverpool, now isn't that a surprise

Oh so you can't find the story? Because it's not actually true? Is that what you are really telling me?

 

[Tuffdisc]

Oh so you can't find the story? Because it's not actually true? Is that what you are really telling me?

I don't want to bother, what I heard is what I heard, I ain't telling no lie

 

[Tuffdisc]

And he never kept Gerrard, all those transfer rumours about him going is just that,

 

[Springsteen]

I don't want to bother, what I heard is what I heard, I ain't telling no lie

You don't want to bother because it never happened. In other words you're a liar and hoped that nobody would question it.

And on another question : Who would you have appointed, realistically, ahead of Roy Hodgson?

 

[Tuffdisc]

You don't want to bother because it never happened. In other words you're a liar and hoped that nobody would question it.

And on another question : Who would you have appointed, realistically, ahead of Roy Hodgson?

It did happen, so accusing me of being a liar is out of order

Anyone but Hodgson, anyone who has a football brain, something that clearly he doesn't, he has never had to deal with international players on a weekly basis, one or two fluky results when managing Switzerland doesn't count as being a good manager:24: If that was the case I think Man-ure would have him in place of Ferguson right now, as he seem to have lost his touch:24:

 

[Springsteen]

It did happen, so accusing me of being a liar is out of order

Where is your proof then? I only called you a liar because you have none for something which isn't just a little statement.

Anyone but Hodgson, anyone who has a football brain, something that clearly he doesn't, he has never had to deal with international players on a weekly basis, one or two fluky results when managing Switzerland doesn't count as being a good manager:24:

Names please. You clearly have no footballing knowledge if you just say someone with a football brain.

If that was the case I think Man-ure would have him in place of Ferguson right now, as he seem to have lost his touch:24:

Not really. He made Rafa crack up after all.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Where is your proof then? I only called you a liar because you have none for something which isn't just a little statement.



Names please. You clearly have no footballing knowledge if you just say someone with a football brain.



Not really. He made Rafa crack up after all.

I don't have to give names to who I want to manage Liverpool, clearly it is beyond Hodgson to manage Liverpool

I do, like I said I am not going to bother

When did he crack up Rafa? After all he consistently beat Man-ure most of the time compared to ones after Dalglish. Clearly you are sporting bruises, hence the reason why you wanted Rafa out

 

[skyblue]

ok then......my opinion is that hodgeson was put there to steady a very unstable ship,to restart the rebuild of liverpool.....you're not going to get trophies whoever was put in charge

 

[Springsteen]

I don't have to give names to who I want to manage Liverpool, clearly it is beyond Hodgson to manage Liverpool

But you said you didn't want Hodgson, fair enough, not every fan will like a managerial choice. But my question is who would you employ instead of Hodgson?

January 2009, the facts rant. After that Liverpool drew their next 3 games and that pretty much cost them the Title.

After all he consistently beat Man-ure most of the time compared to ones after Dalglish. Clearly you are sporting bruises, hence the reason why you wanted Rafa out

He had 12 games against us. He lost 8. Now sure he won 3 in a row but 8 failures before that, and of course the win over you in March. Houlllier won 4 in a row against United from 2000/2002.