Porn star/teacher

[Peter Parka]

I personally can't see the problem here. Is she teaching kids morals here or maths, english, that sort of thing which I got taught in school and I asume is still being taught? Is she coming into class, dressed like a porn star and showing the kids her films? If the answer is no which I pretty much guess it is, I can't see any reason why she shouldn't be allowed to be a teacher.

 

[Mrs Behavin]

I personally can't see the problem here. Is she teaching kids morals here or maths, english, that sort of thing which I got taught in school and I asume is still being taught? Is she coming into class, dressed like a porn star and showing the kids her films? If the answer is no which I pretty much guess it is, I can't see any reason why she shouldn't be allowed to be a teacher.

Thats what Im saying. She turned her life around. She went to college and got an education. The school shouldnt hold her now life responsible for her past life.

 

[Sam]

I am in complete agree with Mrs Behavin and also with Peter Parka ... very well said .... The School Board Members shud be fired for watching PORN MOVIES just to identify who the teacher was Gossshhhh just imagine how many movies they all must have watched just to do that .............. phewwwwwwwww

 

[Sneakiecat]

Teachers are typically held to a higher moral standard. This includes all aspects of their lives. I think the thing that gets me the most is that her movies are still readily available. To me, it would be different if they were not up for sell.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Oh because gay is right on par with porn. Bah.

Chill out, I just meant that is shouldn't really matter what you were in the past, gay or straight, whatever, just hire them based on the teaching skills, and if the students harass her, punish them. Don't get all pissed off with me because I compared gay to pornstar. If you think about it, gay would be on par with porn, think about gay porn...

 

[andcuriouser]

Chill out, I just meant that is shouldn't really matter what you were in the past, gay or straight, whatever, just hire them based on the teaching skills, and if the students harass her, punish them. Don't get all pissed off with me because I compared gay to pornstar. If you think about it, gay would be on par with porn, think about gay porn...

Waaah. I agree that people should be hired based on teaching skills, especially since this teacher in question is no longer in that business.

And I'm not pissed off, just slight put-off that "gay" is synonymous with something bad. And there is straight porn too, so by that logic, anyone who is straight is now associated with porn. Duh, there is gay porn. Are all gay men and women in porn? Certainly not! (/rant)

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Again, I was basically saying that it's wrong to judge the person based on their past experiences or lifestyle, and homosexuality is a type of lifestyle. And speaking of that, the last time I checked[Checks watch...], it was against the law to base whether or not you're going to hire somebody on their sexual orientation.

 

[The_Rooks_Revenge]

I personally can't see the problem here. Is she teaching kids morals here or maths, english, that sort of thing which I got taught in school and I asume is still being taught? Is she coming into class, dressed like a porn star and showing the kids her films? If the answer is no which I pretty much guess it is, I can't see any reason why she shouldn't be allowed to be a teacher.

When a kid is around an adult for so many hours a day morals just rub off. Unknowingly to both parties. How this woman treats and every situation and solves every conflict speaks of her morals and children learn that. Is that to say that she isnt a good problem solver cuz she likes to get fucked on camera? No....but there is still that chance, and as a parent (lol not yet) I dont want to take that chance.

I completely agree with sneakiecat in the fact that certain jobs and/or careers people are held to higher standards. I cant even go to the grocery store unshaven....A HUGE NO NO. Its because I have to display not only to the public but to my own Marines a consistant and unwavering discipline. and that is a small example of the higher standard that I am held to. So when someone is dealing with teaching my child not only math but basic life skills I dont want my teachings supplemented with a porn stars outlook. She has to be held to a standard that I deem appropriate. Douple penetration with a money shot is not appropriate. Plus people are talking about "people make mistakes" You are right but mistakes are usually isolated incedents.....Like "I was walking down the street one day and recorded 12 porno's" thats not a mistake. Its a decision. The consequences were known and a decision was made, and I dont see how anyone could fault someone for not wanting a porn star teaching their child.

 

[BlueKitty2]

When a kid is around an adult for so many hours a day morals just rub off. Unknowingly to both parties. How this woman treats and every situation and solves every conflict speaks of her morals and children learn that. Is that to say that she isnt a good problem solver cuz she likes to get fucked on camera? No....but there is still that chance, and as a parent (lol not yet) I dont want to take that chance.

I completely agree with sneakiecat in the fact that certain jobs and/or careers people are held to higher standards. I cant even go to the grocery store unshaven....A HUGE NO NO. Its because I have to display not only to the public but to my own Marines a consistant and unwavering discipline. and that is a small example of the higher standard that I am held to. So when someone is dealing with teaching my child not only math but basic life skills I dont want my teachings supplemented with a porn stars outlook. She has to be held to a standard that I deem appropriate. Douple penetration with a money shot is not appropriate. Plus people are talking about "people make mistakes" You are right but mistakes are usually isolated incedents.....Like "I was walking down the street one day and recorded 12 porno's" thats not a mistake. Its a decision. The consequences were known and a decision was made, and I dont see how anyone could fault someone for not wanting a porn star teaching their child.

I agree that certain jobs and /or careers demand that people are held to a higher standard, but the past is the past for a reason. Your job demands a higher standard, but did you always behave this way? Probably not. You grew up, changed, decided that this was the way that you wanted to live your life and that this was the thing that you wanted to do. That teacher wanted to be a teacher. The last time I checked getting a teaching degree wasn't cheap and starring in pornos didn't pay that much. Maybe porn was a means to an end. Plenty of women dance in clubs and strip to earn their way thru school. If she was still active in pornography (which would cause moral dilemas) then I say fire her, but she wasn't. Being in the porn industry isn't a crime. She grew up and became a teacher. Is there something wrong with that? Apparently in the district she was teaching in.

 

[Sam]

I agree with Blue Kitty

 

[Sneakiecat]

I agree that certain jobs and /or careers demand that people are held to a higher standard, but the past is the past for a reason. Your job demands a higher standard, but did you always behave this way? Probably not. You grew up, changed, decided that this was the way that you wanted to live your life and that this was the thing that you wanted to do. That teacher wanted to be a teacher. The last time I checked getting a teaching degree wasn't cheap and starring in pornos didn't pay that much. Maybe porn was a means to an end. Plenty of women dance in clubs and strip to earn their way thru school. If she was still active in pornography (which would cause moral dilemas) then I say fire her, but she wasn't. Being in the porn industry isn't a crime. She grew up and became a teacher. Is there something wrong with that? Apparently in the district she was teaching in.

The past maybe the past but it's certainly not forgotten. I know in Florida, if you withhold information about your past, getting a teaching job, and then your past comes out, there could be a lot of trouble. I don't know if she was honest with her past or not, which makes a big difference. You also have to look at the district/state she works in. The district I want to work in is very conservative and highly selective when it comes to teachers. It's one of the best in the state. Something like this would cause a huge uproar. It could be the same in the area she was in. She may not be active as in making movies but it sounds like her movies are still easily attainable, which is where I really have a problem.

 

[Darkstar]

Thats what Im saying. She turned her life around. She went to college and got an education. The school shouldnt hold her now life responsible for her past life.

Precisely.

 

[Peter Parka]

I personally disagree that a teachers morals rub off on the kids. I certainly wasn't influenced by my teachers morals, in fact I didn't even know what they were because teachers are not allowed by law to let their morals influence their relationship with their pupils.

 

[Sneakiecat]

I know that the county I'm in teaches "Character Counts." It's all about teaching students to be good citizens and people, basically the morals that this program decided was right.

 

[being bizarre]

Personally, I think that if this woman was a good teacher and the students learned from her, she shouldn't have been fired. When there are so many bad teachers out there (who really shouldn't be teaching - I've had a few of those), I think that it's stupid to fire a decent teacher just because of something she did in the past. If she's not doing porn now, and if she's not telling her students to go out and make porn videos for money, I really don't see the problem.

As far as holding teachers to a high moral standard, who decides what standards teachers should be held to? I had a gym teacher in elementary school who got upset with a student and threw a chair across the classroom in anger, with the students still inside of the room. In the same school, I had another teacher who clearly beat his wife (she showed up for a class play one day with numerous bruises and a black eye, and tried to hide it with shades and long sleeves; the teacher himself was also not the nicest guy around. This was the talk of the class for a long time). They weren't fired while I was there, but I certainly wouldn't want them teaching little kids.

Also, what about teachers who curse at and threaten students? Or teachers who drink after hours? Or pick their noses? Someone might be offended by any of these things. Different things matter to different people, so there really needs to be a clear standard of moral conduct in place.

 

[Sneakiecat]

Society tells us what is right and wrong (to a certain degree). Sure, it's subjective and some people are bound to be offended but society as a whole won't and therefore it's OK (theoretically anyway). Just because they aren't fired doesn't mean they aren't punished. You can be put on probation, have certain aspects of the job restricted (can't take kids on field trips or whatever), have you certification revoked for certain length of time, and so on. As far as teachers who curse at their students (never had one threaten one), my social studies teacher my 12th grade year decided that it was OK to basically say whatever he wanted to (cursing, racist comments) because it was a Dual Enrollment (college level) class. He lasted a year in that class and then was progressively moved to different classes (lower level) classes. Morals that should be taught? That's why a lot of places use programs like http://charactercounts.org. It may not be nationwide but it's typically consistent within the state.

 

[OUZBnd]

Imagine if a 40 year old man who just got out of the porn business, where he speciallized in having sex on film with teenage girls on their 18th birthday, decided to become a HS teacher. Would you want him to teach your daughter? How about a child molester who was "reabilitated", and has changed? All of you say the past is the past, and it does not effect your morals now, but do you honestly believe that?

People do what they have to do to get by, and i'm not saying I approve or disaprove of the firing, but I completely disagree with the comments people are making that excludes others from being responsible for the choices they have made in the past.

 

[Sneakiecat]

Exactly, that's been the point I was attempting to make.

 

[DanTastic]

as long as she doesnt end up on the news like Mary Kay Laternau let her teach

 

[andcuriouser]

There is a giant difference between a reabilitated child molester (who wouldn't be able to work with children regardless) and a former porn star (was she an actual porn star, or did she just act in porn?)

People consider porn to be such a depraved thing to be involved in, but honestly? It doesn't mean that the people involved in it are depraved or terrible people or unable to function in "normal" society. Are you going to try to take this poor woman's children from her next? Because, heaven forbid, she may try to force her loose morals on sexuality on them!

She is certainly responsible for being in porn, but so what? She's also responsible for leaving that industry, for attempting to make an honest living. Give her some credit.