You are wrong because:
A. That comment came AFTER Minor accused Strauss of name calling so its irrelevant.
B. Stauss' comment may or may not be an insult, but he never called Minor a name.
It's relevant because Minor said that name calling isn't the way to go. And that's why we're talking about this, isn't it?
What's your point, seriously? If you call someone anything with the intention of insulting them, it's name calling. He said madame, which was clearly a dig. I don't think that being a woman is less, but some do and it was clearly used in a "mean" way. He called Minor an irrational human being. Name calling.
Absolutely not--most of the posts I see in this debate section are irrational--comming to an irrational conclusion does not make one an irrational human being--every rational human being will at some time or another make an irrational comment.
Simply pointing out error in logic or rationality is not an insult. The person who has had it pointed out may not like it, but you can't expect to debate complex topics (like politics or economics) and not expect to have someone take you to task.
That would work if he didn't say:
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every other rational human being, madame. Implying that it wasn't just an irrational comment, it was an actual insult thrown at hime. Or name calling, whatever you want to call it.
You are wrong again because Strauss explained he thought Minor was a woman. I've made the same mistake myself (usually the other way around) but that happens on the Internet. And even assuming he was not mistaken, calling someone a "woman" is not name calling unless you are implying that somehow being a woman is less than being a man. Some people may consider it a complment.
And that's how it came off.
Well again you have failed to point out where Strauss called Minor a name or even insulted him (remember the feminine posts comment came after Minor accused Struass of name calling). Certainly even if we accept that Strauss' comment was insulting, it was not name calling.
Name-calling is the use of any negative label to describe another person.
Can we agree that this is a fitting definition of name calling? Because if so, calling someone irrational (not just his one comment) is name calling. And if it isn't name calling, which it is, then it's just immature to resort to directing insults at someone and either way that would make the person doing the insult the knob, not the person getting insulted.
And yes I did point it out. See above.
Ignorance is a common problem, especially in politics, economics, and law and there is no shortage of it here. Calling a person out on ignorance of a subject is NOT an insult regardless of whether you believe it is.
I don't think debating with someone is an insult. Calling someone ignorant is both useless and an insult. But I haven't seen you debate in a mature way since I got here (and now look at me, I'm doing what you do). Spouting off "facts" about economics and politics does not make you a mature debater if you constantly try to bring people down.
But in any event, this is all ridiculous hair splitting. Just about half the posts here are laced with sarcams or innuendo--I can imply you are stupid subtly just as easy as I can call you stupid. Point is you can't possibly debate poltiics and religion without the debate becoming very heated. I can understand not allowing name calling, but if you make a rule you can't "insult" anyone, well that's just plain unenforceable because that is so broad that just about any comment can be construed as insulting. Not to mention you strip the essence of debate when you strip the ability to call into question through vigorous opposition another person's purported position.
Debating isn't an insult. If people get insulted by that, they need to calm down. What I'm getting after you or Strauss or whoever for is actually going out of your way to insult/name call. I've seen you do it countless times. The point is, calling someone ignorant, implying their stupid or whatever is unnecessary and ridiculous. And it's not debate, it's argument, and there's a difference there.
Maybe people should stop getting so heated that they need to insult people to make their points.
You're quick to defend it because you do insult people. You always do. Not to say Minor or anybody is perfect when it comes to this, but this is a case by case basis.
All your -- or anybody who uses your tactics -- points are nulled because of pointless, childish name calling and insulting.
BTW--if Minor calls me a conservative or I call him a liberal, is that "name calling" in your opinion?
But that's actually a political term for people, Mulder. It has no relation to calling someone ignorant or irrational. Or it shouldn't, but you and Minor seem to use it that way.
But you two use it as insults all the time. Quite frankly, you both need to fuck off with that.
And why do I keep hearing a beeping sound in my place? Mulder set a bomb.
A certain group of people in the U.S. love to kick the shit out of the French because they didn't go for a BS war. Of course they have not spent a trillion dollars on BS, imagine that.
