Obama and Communist Platforms are Virtually Identical

[Fox Mulder]

Uhh, seriously the "W" bumper stickers on supporters' cars during the past two elections. I saw both "W" and "Dubya" stickers. And no, those stickers were not making fun of him. Check the pronunciation at Wiktionary. Here is a SAMPLE.

Give up?

I'll repeat my previous link in larger letters and underline it for you--unfortunately, I can't use your communication medium of choice (crayons) here on the Interet!

A nickname for George W. Bush. It is usually used by opponents of George W. Bush and those making fun of him.

Do you understand the word "usually" -- it doesn't mean exclusively--it doesn't mean that people on the right don't also use it. This was in response to your absurd claim that people on the left don't stoop to using perjorative names to case aspersions on member of the opposite party!

So do you give up or do I need to use larger letters? I could write it out in crayon, scan it, and post that if it would make it easier for you.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Same misguided nonsense. :nod:

:homo:

"Social Democrat" = "Communist"

Same thing--the only difference is communists are actually honest about their ultimate goal!

 

[gLing]

The Scandinavian model is so misguided, right?

Moreover, if you can't see the distinct differences between Marxist thought and the methodology of Social Democracy, you don't know anything about this subject.

Yes the Scandinavian model is misguided. I love how people like to pull that one out of their hat. lol

The difference between communism and social democracy is the difference between murder and suicide.

 

[Fox Mulder]

The Scandinavian model is so misguided, right?

Moreover, if you can't see the distinct differences between Marxist thought and the methodology of Social Democracy, you don't know anything about this subject.

I assume you are referring to Sweden, which virtually collapsed on itself until they reformed their communist bullshit in the 70s. But there is absolutely no way to compare Sweden or Norway and the US. Those countries have been closed to immigration for decades. If we took the upper 50% of the wage earners in the US and booted out everyone else, we could have an economy similar to Sweden and Norway (which still does not compare to the US's present economy even with all of the no-account riff-raff we allow into this country).

Do you realize that in the next 20 years or so, the work force to the over 65 is going to be 3-1. Its like 11 to 1 now. How in the fuck do you think we are going to be able to sustain this socialist bullshit you are pushing? Just do the math--what you socialists are pushing is economic disaster. Even now without more socialist bullshit we are facing a HUGE economic disaster on the horizon due to the SS issue--that in itself due to disasterous liberal economic policies.

 

[gLing]

I assume you are referring to Sweden, which virtually collapsed on itself until they reformed their communist bullshit in the 70s. But there is absolutely no way to compare Sweden or Norway and the US. Those countries have been closed to immigration for decades. If we took the upper 50% of the wage earners in the US and booted out everyone else, we could have an economy similar to Sweden and Norway (which still does not compare to the US's present economy even with all of the no-account riff-raff we allow into this country).

Do you realize that in the next 20 years or so, the work force to the over 65 is going to be 3-1. Its like 11 to 1 now. How in the fuck do you think we are going to be able to sustain this socialist bullshit you are pushing? Just do the math--what you socialists are pushing is economic disaster. Even now without more socialist bullshit we are facing a HUGE economic disaster on the horizon due to the SS issue--that in itself due to disasterous liberal economic policies.

Not to mention if Sweden became a US state it would rank as one of the poorest.

 

[Fox Mulder]

BTW--the only reason all this socialist bullshit we live with today has worked at all is because the work force after WWII, which is when the Democrats really started pushing the Bolshevic revolution on the US, was so high in comparison to the retired. The baby boom and the fact that we had an ever increasing work force to care for those retiring made it possible--a once in a millenium occurence and one that will not repeat. I've already accepted the fact they'll be no money for me when I reach retirement. Its impossible--the numbers simply don't support it. You have to be honestly a fool to ignore the realities of economics and keep pusing this socialist bullshit. I'd love to live in a world where we are all taken care of nicely by the government, but such a world will never exist. Believe, you haven't even begun to see what kind of suffering is going to happen in this country--just wait until 1/3rd the population is too old to work--its an economic nightmare that liberals have wrought--as the saying goes, shall you sew, so shall you reap.

 

[lumpenstein]

BTW--the only reason all this socialist bullshit we live with today has worked at all is because the work force after WWII, which is when the Democrats really started pushing the Bolshevic revolution on the US, was so high in comparison to the retired. The baby boom and the fact that we had an ever increasing work force to care for those retiring made it possible--a once in a millenium occurence and one that will not repeat. I've already accepted the fact they'll be no money for me when I reach retirement. Its impossible--the numbers simply don't support it. You have to be honestly a fool to ignore the realities of economics and keep pusing this socialist bullshit. I'd love to live in a world where we are all taken care of nicely by the government, but such a world will never exist. Believe, you haven't even begun to see what kind of suffering is going to happen in this country--just wait until 1/3rd the population is too old to work--its an economic nightmare that liberals have wrought--as the saying goes, shall you sew, so shall you reap.

I thought somebody like you, who has a decent income and is good with numbers and math and financially knowedgealbe would have a shit-load of investments.

 

[Fox Mulder]

I thought somebody like you, who has a decent income and is good with numbers and math and financially knowedgealbe would have a shit-load of investments.

I'm talking about no government money for me. In the US they rob us of 15% of our pay allegedly for our retirement. Well there is no fucking way that I'll recover even 10% of what they've taken from me if I lived to be 100 and there won't be any money to fund it in 15 years (again--do the math--there will be only 3 workers for every retiree). I'll be happy if they just pay for my medical bills.

But this is what the liberal has wrought on society--a system of robbing Peter to pay Paul except Peter isn't going to be around forever--he (Peter) has been the fact that we as society have been very fortunate to have had a period of about 40 years or so with a bulging work force to support the bolshevic bullshit. Well places like Sweden and Germany and other European nations where the birth rates have dropped dramatically are starting to shit a brick because they realize that without new workers they can rob to pay for the fucking waste of money and socialist bullshit programs that the system will collapse on itself. Seriously--its coming, its just a matter of time. Anyone looking to retire in more than 5 years or so from now better seriously start saving if you haven't already because if you are relying on government pension, you are fucked.

 

[lumpenstein]

I'm talking about no government money for me. In the US they rob us of 15% of our pay allegedly for our retirement. Well there is no fucking way that I'll recover even 10% of what they've taken from me if I lived to be 100 and there won't be any money to fund it in 15 years (again--do the math--there will be only 3 workers for every retiree). I'll be happy if they just pay for my medical bills.

But this is what the liberal has wrought on society--a system of robbing Peter to pay Paul except Peter isn't going to be around forever--he (Peter) has been the fact that we as society have been very fortunate to have had a period of about 40 years or so with a bulging work force to support the bolshevic bullshit. Well places like Sweden and Germany and other European nations where the birth rates have dropped dramatically are starting to shit a brick because they realize that without new workers they can rob to pay for the fucking waste of money and socialist bullshit programs that the system will collapse on itself. Seriously--its coming, its just a matter of time. Anyone looking to retire in more than 5 years or so from now better seriously start saving if you haven't already because if you are relying on government pension, you are fucked.

I hear you. It's the same here in the great white north. Every second friday the gov takes a huge juicy slice of my pay while telling me how good it is for the country at large but when I retire they will offer me maybe a couple hundred bucks. Shit, dude; that isn't even beer money!

 

[Minor Axis]

So do you give up or do I need to use larger letters? I could write it out in crayon, scan it, and post that if it would make it easier for you.

Amazing... as that is the Republican's pet name for him. Your gonna try to lay that on liberals? Weak.

You're arguing this issue to hard. You take issue with my statement quoted above. You asked me where I got this. I answered your question- The name was created by his supporters not his detractors. I've showed you links. Sorry you can't accept the truth, but that seems to be your tendency.

Hell his normal name is used with derision. That has nothing to do with your original objection.

 

[Strauss]

I hear you. It's the same here in the great white north. Every second friday the gov takes a huge juicy slice of my pay while telling me how good it is for the country at large but when I retire they will offer me maybe a couple hundred bucks. Shit, dude; that isn't even beer money!

Well I have to agree, you got it worse. Because AFTER they take your money you're still living in Canada. What a bummer. :24:

 

[lumpenstein]

Well I have to agree, you got it worse. Because AFTER they take your money you're still living in Canada. What a bummer. :24:

May I call you a jerk? Because you post like one! Canada rocks no matter how cold it gets!

 

[Fox Mulder]

May I call you a jerk? Because you post like one! Canada rocks no matter how cold it gets!

Its a beautiful country no doubt--especially like the Vancouver area--much natural beauty--people are really nice too, you excluded of course!

 

[Carthage]

The difference between communism and social democracy is the difference between murder and suicide.

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[Strauss]

May I call you a jerk? Because you post like one! Canada rocks no matter how cold it gets!

I prefer sir, your highness or your intellectual superior. All of which would be accurate. But I do agree Canada is a rock.

 

[Strauss]

Its a beautiful country no doubt--especially like the Vancouver area--much natural beauty--people are really nice too, you excluded of course!

Yeah, I had to go to Canada to be a victim of a crime (almost). Great friggin country.

 

[Strickland]

Yes the Scandinavian model is misguided. I love how people like to pull that one out of their hat. lol

The difference between communism and social democracy is the difference between murder and suicide.

Have you ever heard of Lenin and Kautsky? The former was the Bolshevik revolutionary who broke away from the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party due to his claim that Social Democrats are nothing more than compromisers with the capitalists. Keep in mind that Kautsky, known as the Renegade in Russia, was neither a Menshevik nor Bolshevik.

Are you knowledgeable yet or will I have to take you back to school?

 

[gLing]

Have you ever heard of Lenin and Kautsky? The former was the Bolshevik revolutionary who broke away from the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party due to his claim that Social Democrats are nothing more than compromisers with the capitalists. Keep in mind that Kautsky, known as the Renegade in Russia, was neither a Menshevik nor Bolshevik.

Are you knowledgeable yet or will I have to take you back to school?

Irrelevant, the end result is what matters.

 

[Strickland]

Irrelevant, the end result is what matters.

And Kautsky is the one who predicted the Soviet Union's, then the Soviet Federation's, descent into despotism before even Leon Trotsky was declared the "enemy of the people" by the Stalinists.

Moreover, let us discuss Denmark! They are enjoying a prosperous economy, which is very agreeable for the free trade supporters and its extensive welfare system which is comprehensive and renders hospital visits free, schooling free, and so much more. They do have to pay 50% taxes, but according to the BBC, it doesn't make them any less happy.

Do you realize that in the next 20 years or so, the work force to the over 65 is going to be 3-1. Its like 11 to 1 now. How in the fuck do you think we are going to be able to sustain this socialist bullshit you are pushing? Just do the math--what you socialists are pushing is economic disaster. Even now without more socialist bullshit we are facing a HUGE economic disaster on the horizon due to the SS issue--that in itself due to disasterous liberal economic policies.

I was referring to Denmark, and it would be wise of you to read into the true prosperity of Denmark so you don't look like a total fool when you claim their economic policies to be disastrous when they are on the rise while nations like the U.S. are descending into poverty.

 

[gLing]

And Kautsky is the one who predicted the Soviet Union's, then the Soviet Federation's, descent into despotism before even Leon Trotsky was declared the "enemy of the people" by the Stalinists.

Moreover, let us discuss Denmark! They are enjoying a prosperous economy, which is very agreeable for the free trade supporters and its extensive welfare system which is comprehensive and renders hospital visits free, schooling free, and so much more. They do have to pay 50% taxes, but according to the BBC, it doesn't make them any less happy.

There is no such thing as free.
When you give more control to the government you lose more freedoms. It is as simple as that.
And how do you know they are no less happy? What are the standards to make such a claim?