I can see him pulling off the upset over Penn but there can be no victory for him over Sherk, if Penn retires or leaves the UFC after losing to Florian then it's only a matter of time before Sherk gets that belt back.
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I can see him pulling off the upset over Penn but there can be no victory for him over Sherk, if Penn retires or leaves the UFC after losing to Florian then it's only a matter of time before Sherk gets that belt back.
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SammyStephens
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Agreed, Penn and Sherk have really separated themselves from the flock and in the UFC, Kenny is the only thing close to them. And that says allot cause that is a very talent rich division
yeah, I see Penn totally losing interest in MMA if he can't beat Florian or if he doesn't get his rematch with GSP, if/when that happens Sherk gets the belt back and holds it until he retires.
SammyStephens
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I don't see why he'd bother with GSP now. He lost twice and was dominated 4 strait rounds the second time. He knows that the Vaseline shit is BS or maybe he's learned he has to train like a mad man. I don't know, he should just stick to LW IMO.
And the way some of these cats are improving, he better get his shit together. This half asses training is going to catch up to him.
First thing he needs to do is get out Hawaii and surround himself with a bunch of guys that are not just yes men
he's asking for a rematch and GSP has accepted, but it won't happen until after they both defend their belts against the top contenders in their divisions, that's assuming Dana will even make a third fight, both guys have accepted a rematch but it's up to Dana whether it happens or not, I really hope it doesn't, I'm sick of Penn being handed so many shots he hasn't earned.
SammyStephens
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He's a spoiled brat, that is all that there is to it
Sherk is a bad sum bitch!!
I don't know why they keep giving in to him, gets handed a title shot against Hughes after he just walked out on the UFC before, gets Smashed by Hughes, then gets handed a coaching spot against Pulver on TUF, then somehow beating a washed up Pulver lands him a tite shot, not against the actual Champion but against Joe Stevonson, then he totally fucks over 2 divisions for a rematch with GSP that he did not deserve, in which he gets totally humiliated and destroyed, and now he wants ANOTHER rematch, I won't even watch it if they make it.
SammyStephens
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Probably because his potential is so high. He holds a belt and everyone knows he is probably the most gifted fighter of all time. If he would just apply himself, he probably would be best p4p of all time.
I was pretty disgusted with Penn on the Primetime show, how fucking delusional is he to think he can just take 5 days off at a time from training, and then has the nerve to bitch about them showing that.
SammyStephens
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And having his yes men cover for him!! Those guys shou;d have been on his ass!!! Penn needs to get the fuck out of there!!
yeah, he's making the same mistakes Brock Lesnar is making, just surrounding himself with friends instead of legitimate training partners, he needs to move to a different camp or get better guys for his own camp.
SammyStephens
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he should go do some caveman training with Sherk, I don't know if Penn could handle that though.
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UFC president Dana White still wants Fedor Emelianenko to fight in the Octagon. The thing is, he doesn't believe that Fedor, or at least his handlers, really have a strong interest in the Russian crusher coming to the UFC. Then again, he's not really sure what Fedor and his management wants.
"I want Fedor too, contrary to popular belief," he reiterated recently. In White's mind, it's just a matter of not being able to negotiate with Fedor's camp.
"I have no idea what they want. Everything makes no sense to me. I think they thought, 'You know, we'll partner up with these guys and we'll own a piece of this thing.' It's all mixed signals. You never know what these guys want," he stated, amused frustration in his tone.
"When I first met with these guys, (Fedor's) manager is like, 'Here's what we want to do. My brother is the biggest rock concert promoter over there. So here's what we want. We want you to build an arena in Russia,'" recounted White. "And I'm like, '(Expletive) timeout.' I want to sign a guy. I'm not looking to build arenas or get into business with you or anything like that. We'll pay him what he wants to be paid. We'll promote and do this and that. But it's not about Fedor when you talk to these guys."
Having built the UFC on the back of strong personal relationships in the fight game when there wasn't all that much money, if any, to throw around, the UFC President hasn't even met the No. 1 heavyweight in the world. "I've never met Fedor! I've never said one (expletive) word to the guy. I've never even seen him face to face."
The Fedor situation has strung out ever since Zuffa (the UFC's parent company) acquired Pride in spring of 2007. When the promotion was finally shuttered due to difficulties in trying to operate in Japan and several fighter contracts were either deemed non-transferrable or nonexistent, the UFC began signing fighters to new contracts. Fedor has been one of the only fighters to elude the MMA juggernaught.
At this point, it doesn't appear the UFC will ever be able to snare his services. White can only throw up his hands in frustration and move on.
"I don't know what they want... Fedor's one of these guys that, listen, everybody thinks that I won't give Fedor his props and everything. B.J. Penn and Georges St. Pierre and Anderson Silva and every other guy in this company fight the best of the best three times a year. Fedor's not doing that. If he wants to fight guys three times a year, prove he's the best, if he wants to do that, I'm willing to do it with him," says White.
"I don't think he cares about a legacy or any of that kind of stuff," he continued. "I don't know. I'd like to see him fight in the UFC."
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new article about Fedor in The UFC, LOL at Fedor's management wanting Dana to build an arena in Russia!
UFC president Dana White still wants Fedor Emelianenko to fight in the Octagon. The thing is, he doesn't believe that Fedor, or at least his handlers, really have a strong interest in the Russian crusher coming to the UFC. Then again, he's not really sure what Fedor and his management wants.
"I want Fedor too, contrary to popular belief," he reiterated recently. In White's mind, it's just a matter of not being able to negotiate with Fedor's camp.
"I have no idea what they want. Everything makes no sense to me. I think they thought, 'You know, we'll partner up with these guys and we'll own a piece of this thing.' It's all mixed signals. You never know what these guys want," he stated, amused frustration in his tone.
"When I first met with these guys, (Fedor's) manager is like, 'Here's what we want to do. My brother is the biggest rock concert promoter over there. So here's what we want. We want you to build an arena in Russia,'" recounted White. "And I'm like, '(Expletive) timeout.' I want to sign a guy. I'm not looking to build arenas or get into business with you or anything like that. We'll pay him what he wants to be paid. We'll promote and do this and that. But it's not about Fedor when you talk to these guys."
Having built the UFC on the back of strong personal relationships in the fight game when there wasn't all that much money, if any, to throw around, the UFC President hasn't even met the No. 1 heavyweight in the world. "I've never met Fedor! I've never said one (expletive) word to the guy. I've never even seen him face to face."
The Fedor situation has strung out ever since Zuffa (the UFC's parent company) acquired Pride in spring of 2007. When the promotion was finally shuttered due to difficulties in trying to operate in Japan and several fighter contracts were either deemed non-transferrable or nonexistent, the UFC began signing fighters to new contracts. Fedor has been one of the only fighters to elude the MMA juggernaught.
At this point, it doesn't appear the UFC will ever be able to snare his services. White can only throw up his hands in frustration and move on.
"I don't know what they want... Fedor's one of these guys that, listen, everybody thinks that I won't give Fedor his props and everything. B.J. Penn and Georges St. Pierre and Anderson Silva and every other guy in this company fight the best of the best three times a year. Fedor's not doing that. If he wants to fight guys three times a year, prove he's the best, if he wants to do that, I'm willing to do it with him," says White.
"I don't think he cares about a legacy or any of that kind of stuff," he continued. "I don't know. I'd like to see him fight in the UFC."
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new article about Fedor in The UFC, LOL at Fedor's management wanting Dana to build an arena in Russia!
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Ken Shamrock was in attendance as the special guest at the recent Bullet Fight Gear Presents: The Battle of Rome VI, in Rome, Georgia. “It is great to be back,” he said of the return to his home state. “I was born here, this place is beautiful.”
Fight promoter Tony Metcalfe was also excited to have the legend at the event. “Ken Shamrock is the Godfather of MMA,” he stated. “Without him, there wouldn’t be a Chuck Liddell or Forrest Griffin.”
Shamrock hasn’t fought since March of 2008, (he was scheduled to fight Kimbo Slice in October, but had to withdraw due to injury) but he hasn’t exactly been idle in that time.
“I’m actually trying to develop Ken Shamrock Productions, along with War Gods, so I’ll be fighting in my own shows” said Shamrock. “I have tried fighting in other promotions, and it always seems like you’re just spinning your wheels, and you seem to get used up.”
Ken Shamrock Productions and War Gods will put on their first co-promotion on Feb. 13 in Fresno, Calif., where he is scheduled to fight the 6’8” 360-pound Ross Clifton.
The goal for Shamrock’s company is to put the fans first. “I want to bring in fighters that fans want to see,” he explained. “Not necessarily because they’re the top ranked guys, but just because the fans want it.”
One such fight is a matchup between Ken Shamrock and David “Tank” Abbott. Both men are pioneers in the sport of MMA, having been around since its earliest days.
“We have wanted this fight to happen for years,” said Shamrock. “And for whatever reason it just hasn’t happened. Now, I’ll be in control, and I can set it up.”
Another fight that has eluded Shamrock throughout his career is one with his brother Frank. “I would hope it would happen,” said Shamrock. “I have been in the situation before where there was talk about it, and my brother likes to point fingers and say that I’m the one that causes it not to happen. If you follow his track record, you’ll see that he has turned down many fights. He was supposed to fight Wanderlei Silva and didn’t, he was supposed to fight Kazushi Sakuraba and didn’t, and so on and so on. If you look at my record, you’ll see that I have never been involved with a promotion that was talked about, and then I didn’t fight. So I think my record speaks for itself.”
During his hall of fame career, Shamrock has done battle with the best the sport had to offer, in some of its top promotions. He took part in the first Ultimate Fighting Championship. He fought in the now defunct Japanese promotion, Pride Fighting Championships, and in Pancrase, even before the first UFC event.
He has taken on such luminaries as Royce Gracie, Don Frye, Dan Severn, Tito Ortiz, and Rich Franklin. However, Shamrock named a man that only the most hardcore MMA fans would recognize as his toughest opponent.
“Without a doubt it was Masakatsu Funaki” he stated. “I learned all of my skills, submission and striking in Japan, so I trained a lot with Masakatsu. When you’re fighting someone who knows what you’re going to do it’s really tough. He was a good striker, he was well rounded, and he knew me, and knew how to fight me.”
In nearly 16 years of professional fighting, Ken Shamrock has seen the sport go from the underground scene, to the mainstream. MMA has broken pay-per-view records, and smashed box office records at arenas across the globe.
“It’s come to a point where you see it on every T.V. channel, there are advertisements, or someone’s making a reality show. It’s just everywhere now,” he said. “When I started, it was like this dark cloud that you weren’t supposed to talk about, but now it’s come full circle, and it’s a respectable sport. There are still people out there that hate it, or think it’s barbaric, but those are the same people that look at football and boxing the same way. They have their opinion and we should respect it.”
Shamrock also thinks that MMA athletes are superior to those in other combat sports. “Some of the greatest athletes in the world are in MMA. There’s no doubting that when you pit against any athlete from any other combat sport, the MMA guy will come out on top,” he commented.
There are people that say that Ken Shamrock (who turns 45 on February 11) is no longer “The World’s Most Dangerous Man,” and that maybe his best days are behind him, but he thinks there is more to it than that. “I love it, people ask me all the time and I say as long as my body lets me do it, and the fans want me to, I’ll do it,” said the former champion. “I enjoy it, it’s still fun.”
Shamrock used basketball legend Michael Jordan as an example of a guy that competed for the love of the game. “Jordan would score 50 or 60 points in a game, and when he started scoring 25 or 30 points a game, he was still well above average” explained Shamrock. “When he wasn’t this outstanding scorer, and couldn’t move like he used to, people started saying he should quit or whatever, but if you look at it, he was playing for the love of the game. He’s no longer trying to make the name. He has already done that, now he’s in it because he loves it.”
He also believes fans should go easy on an athlete that sticks around past his prime. “I think it’s sad when fans turn on a guy that’s not able to do some of the things he could do before. They entertained them for so many years, and gave them so many happy moments, now all of the sudden, they’re not allowing the athlete to enjoy themselves anymore, and I just think that’s wrong.”
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Pretty good Interveiw with Ken, he really does need to retire though.
Ken Shamrock was in attendance as the special guest at the recent Bullet Fight Gear Presents: The Battle of Rome VI, in Rome, Georgia. “It is great to be back,” he said of the return to his home state. “I was born here, this place is beautiful.”
Fight promoter Tony Metcalfe was also excited to have the legend at the event. “Ken Shamrock is the Godfather of MMA,” he stated. “Without him, there wouldn’t be a Chuck Liddell or Forrest Griffin.”
Shamrock hasn’t fought since March of 2008, (he was scheduled to fight Kimbo Slice in October, but had to withdraw due to injury) but he hasn’t exactly been idle in that time.
“I’m actually trying to develop Ken Shamrock Productions, along with War Gods, so I’ll be fighting in my own shows” said Shamrock. “I have tried fighting in other promotions, and it always seems like you’re just spinning your wheels, and you seem to get used up.”
Ken Shamrock Productions and War Gods will put on their first co-promotion on Feb. 13 in Fresno, Calif., where he is scheduled to fight the 6’8” 360-pound Ross Clifton.
The goal for Shamrock’s company is to put the fans first. “I want to bring in fighters that fans want to see,” he explained. “Not necessarily because they’re the top ranked guys, but just because the fans want it.”
One such fight is a matchup between Ken Shamrock and David “Tank” Abbott. Both men are pioneers in the sport of MMA, having been around since its earliest days.
“We have wanted this fight to happen for years,” said Shamrock. “And for whatever reason it just hasn’t happened. Now, I’ll be in control, and I can set it up.”
Another fight that has eluded Shamrock throughout his career is one with his brother Frank. “I would hope it would happen,” said Shamrock. “I have been in the situation before where there was talk about it, and my brother likes to point fingers and say that I’m the one that causes it not to happen. If you follow his track record, you’ll see that he has turned down many fights. He was supposed to fight Wanderlei Silva and didn’t, he was supposed to fight Kazushi Sakuraba and didn’t, and so on and so on. If you look at my record, you’ll see that I have never been involved with a promotion that was talked about, and then I didn’t fight. So I think my record speaks for itself.”
During his hall of fame career, Shamrock has done battle with the best the sport had to offer, in some of its top promotions. He took part in the first Ultimate Fighting Championship. He fought in the now defunct Japanese promotion, Pride Fighting Championships, and in Pancrase, even before the first UFC event.
He has taken on such luminaries as Royce Gracie, Don Frye, Dan Severn, Tito Ortiz, and Rich Franklin. However, Shamrock named a man that only the most hardcore MMA fans would recognize as his toughest opponent.
“Without a doubt it was Masakatsu Funaki” he stated. “I learned all of my skills, submission and striking in Japan, so I trained a lot with Masakatsu. When you’re fighting someone who knows what you’re going to do it’s really tough. He was a good striker, he was well rounded, and he knew me, and knew how to fight me.”
In nearly 16 years of professional fighting, Ken Shamrock has seen the sport go from the underground scene, to the mainstream. MMA has broken pay-per-view records, and smashed box office records at arenas across the globe.
“It’s come to a point where you see it on every T.V. channel, there are advertisements, or someone’s making a reality show. It’s just everywhere now,” he said. “When I started, it was like this dark cloud that you weren’t supposed to talk about, but now it’s come full circle, and it’s a respectable sport. There are still people out there that hate it, or think it’s barbaric, but those are the same people that look at football and boxing the same way. They have their opinion and we should respect it.”
Shamrock also thinks that MMA athletes are superior to those in other combat sports. “Some of the greatest athletes in the world are in MMA. There’s no doubting that when you pit against any athlete from any other combat sport, the MMA guy will come out on top,” he commented.
There are people that say that Ken Shamrock (who turns 45 on February 11) is no longer “The World’s Most Dangerous Man,” and that maybe his best days are behind him, but he thinks there is more to it than that. “I love it, people ask me all the time and I say as long as my body lets me do it, and the fans want me to, I’ll do it,” said the former champion. “I enjoy it, it’s still fun.”
Shamrock used basketball legend Michael Jordan as an example of a guy that competed for the love of the game. “Jordan would score 50 or 60 points in a game, and when he started scoring 25 or 30 points a game, he was still well above average” explained Shamrock. “When he wasn’t this outstanding scorer, and couldn’t move like he used to, people started saying he should quit or whatever, but if you look at it, he was playing for the love of the game. He’s no longer trying to make the name. He has already done that, now he’s in it because he loves it.”
He also believes fans should go easy on an athlete that sticks around past his prime. “I think it’s sad when fans turn on a guy that’s not able to do some of the things he could do before. They entertained them for so many years, and gave them so many happy moments, now all of the sudden, they’re not allowing the athlete to enjoy themselves anymore, and I just think that’s wrong.”
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Pretty good Interveiw with Ken, he really does need to retire though.
SammyStephens
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Beats me, he'll never get a belt but there's a lot of good fights they can make with him.
SammyStephens
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Hope that's not true, if so that's pretty odd, but Fedor has spoken in the passed about doing whatever his management wants him to do. Hopefully it isn't middle men keeping it from happening
I don't know but this is just fucking strange, maybe Fedor needs some new management is this is the kind of shit that's keeping him from the UFC.
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