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FOXNews.com - McCain Suggests Physical Force to Prevent Ahmadinejad From Visiting World Trade Center Site - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad should be physically prevented from visiting Ground Zero should he attempt to go to the "sacred" site where the World Trade Center once stood, Arizona Sen. John McCain joked Thursday.
"I think the president of Iran should be physically restrained if necessary," a laughing McCain told radio host Shawn Wasson. "I hope it doesn't come to that but we're not going to have that kind of desecration of what is sacred ground. Obviously, it is a propaganda ploy on his part, and if we allowed him to do it it would just embolden his followers and give him the publicity he seeks."

Ahmadinejad, whose country is on the U.S. list of state sponsors of terror and has called for the elimination of the state of Israel, is arriving in New York on Monday for the opening session of the United Nations General Assembly.
Ahmadinejad told "60 Minutes" on Thursday that he's "amazed" Americans view his request to visit the site as insulting. He said he still has the visit included in his program and will try to go, but if local officials can't swing it, "I won't insist." /**/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/20/60minutes/main3282230.shtml
"We all know that unfortunately because the United Nations is located in New York City, he can come there just as (Cuban leader Fidel) Castro comes and some other jerks," McCain said. But allowing Ahmadinejad to visit the site "would be an affront not only to America but to the families of our loved ones who perished there in an unprecedented act of terror."

Ahmadinejad has also accepted an invitation to speak at Columbia University. McCain, who acknowledged he didn't have a close relationship with the Minutemen border guards, nonetheless noted that one Minuteman leader was prevented from speaking at the school, but the Iranian president is being welcomed.
"I don't quite get that, my friend. It's a sad commentary," McCain said.

How do you guys feel about Akhmed-in-a-Jihad going to Ground Zero? I think it would be complete BS to let him do it. Even considering letting a known terrorist-supporter go there blows my mind.
 
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Why not? America is a terrorist supporting nation as well.
 

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I think it is complete BS that Iran is a member of the UN, but then I think the UN is pretty much worthless, so there ya go.

I guess he needs to see the sacred site so he can believe it happened or maybe so he can deny that it happened like he does with the holocaust.

McCain, who acknowledged he didn't have a close relationship with the Minutemen border guards, nonetheless noted that one Minuteman leader was prevented from speaking at the school, but the Iranian president is being welcomed.
"I don't quite get that, my friend. It's a sad commentary," McCain said.
Indeed it is.
 

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Why not? America is a terrorist supporting nation as well.
That has to be loudest disbelieving groan your posts have ever elicited from me.

I just wanted you to know that, but please, there's no need to expound on that.
 

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That has to be loudest disbelieving groan your posts have ever elicited from me.

I just wanted you to know that, but please, there's no need to expound on that.
Its no secret that various American Organizations have helped and or funded terrorist organizations in other countries, thats a well documented fact.
 

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Re: McCain Suggests Physical Force to Prevent Ahmadinejad From Visiting World Trade C

Most people that have done drugs have indirectly supported terrorists groups too. So what? Saying a simple statement like that does not paint a clear or a complete picture.
 

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Seems slightly ironic this. After WWII we forced Germans to visit concentration camps so they would fully appreciate the gravity of what happened. Now we're trying to hide things like that from certain people who need convincing more than anyone of the evil of these attacks?
 

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Most people that have done drugs have indirectly supported terrorists groups too. So what? Saying a simple statement like that does not paint a clear or a complete picture.
Well thats the thing, we have directly supported them. The CIA gave $3 billion to Bin Laden and his organizations to fight the Russians in the 1980's. We funded and trained a WELL KNOWN terrorist group.

Also, in 1982 we gave billions to Saddam for weapons to kill Iranians, which also included the indiscriminate killing of civilians. In 1983, we gave the Iranians weapons to kill Iraqis!


Those are just some of a few major events.
 

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Blah, blah, blah, yes I know AEF, but as I stated, a few simplistic statements are not going to paint a clear, full picture. As a relativist you should know this. ;)

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Blah, blah, blah, yes I know AEF, but as I stated, a few simplistic statements are not going to paint a clear, full picture. As a relativist you should know this. ;)

:tongue:
Those aren't simplistic, they are incredibly debilitating marks against the United Sates.


So whats the full picture? Its ok for us to use terrorism when it benefits us, but when an organization that we helped organize uses it against us then its not?
 

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The full picture is that 20/20 hindsight is a beautiful thing. The full picture is that this country is no more perfect than you are. The full picture is that on a whole this country still strives to fight injustice. The full picture is that just because wrongs were committed in the past does not mean we should not strive to change and do what is right now and for the future. So in short, just because we supported a terrorist wrongly and/or indirectly does not mean a hill of beans right now. Live in the past or learn and move forward.

Now, back on topic here.
I think it is complete BS that Iran is a member of the UN, but then I think the UN is pretty much worthless, so there ya go.

I guess he needs to see the sacred site so he can believe it happened or maybe so he can deny that it happened like he does with the holocaust.

McCain, who acknowledged he didn't have a close relationship with the Minutemen border guards, nonetheless noted that one Minuteman leader was prevented from speaking at the school, but the Iranian president is being welcomed.
"I don't quite get that, my friend. It's a sad commentary," McCain said.
Indeed it is.
 

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I agree that the UN is pretty much worthless these days but only because the US now ignores them if they disagree with them and blunders into a war with a country based, on a lie.
 

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The full picture is that 20/20 hindsight is a beautiful thing. The full picture is that this country is no more perfect than you are. The full picture is that on a whole this country still strives to fight injustice. The full picture is that just because wrongs were committed in the past does not mean we should not strive to change and do what is right now and for the future. So in short, just because we supported a terrorist wrongly and/or indirectly does not mean a hill of beans right now. Live in the past or learn and move forward.

Now, back on topic here.
I think it is complete BS that Iran is a member of the UN, but then I think the UN is pretty much worthless, so there ya go.

I guess he needs to see the sacred site so he can believe it happened or maybe so he can deny that it happened like he does with the holocaust.


Indeed it is.
It does count for something though. We accuse all of these countries of supporting terrorism and continue to demonize them, while we had a hand in spawning a lot of terrorist organizations. We all live in a age of hypocrisy. As far as I'm concerned, the Iraq war *IS* terrorism, and an injustice. I agree we should strive to better ourselves, but when we have a massive imperialist agenda thats sort of hard to do.
 

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We have never needed the UN's 'permission' to take military action.
 

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It does count for something though. We accuse all of these countries of supporting terrorism and continue to demonize them, while we had a hand in spawning a lot of terrorist organizations.
They continue to support terrorism.

We all live in a age of hypocrisy.
The whole world has always lived with hypocrisy. Regardless of hypocrisy we have to live, function, and move forward through it. And when we do, guess what, there will be more hypocrisy.

As far as I'm concerned, the Iraq war *IS* terrorism, and an injustice. I agree we should strive to better ourselves, but when we have a massive imperialist agenda thats sort of hard to do.
Besides the words I put in bold, I disagree with your statements.
 

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Re: McCain Suggests Physical Force to Prevent Ahmadinejad From Visiting World Trade C

Trust me, if there was a nation that we didn't like and there was a terrorist group inside the country that wanted to overthrow it, we would fund and train them in a heartbeat.


We are an imperialist power, btw. It's pretty obvious.
 

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Re: McCain Suggests Physical Force to Prevent Ahmadinejad From Visiting World Trade C

Grace, you think supporting terrorist organizations are just past mistakes by the US? Then look into the Mujahedeen-e-Khalq, or MEK. We are actively supporting this terrorist organization, providing them money, support and the U.S. military regularly escorts MEK supply runs between Baghdad and its base, Camp Ashraf. Yet the U.S. State Department considers the MEK a terrorist organization -- meaning no American can deal with it; U.S. banks must freeze its assets; and any American giving support to its members is committing a crime.

Here are a few sources for you to confirm the information
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Re: McCain Suggests Physical Force to Prevent Ahmadinejad From Visiting World Trade C

It does count for something though. We accuse all of these countries of supporting terrorism and continue to demonize them, while we had a hand in spawning a lot of terrorist organizations. We all live in a age of hypocrisy. As far as I'm concerned, the Iraq war *IS* terrorism, and an injustice. I agree we should strive to better ourselves, but when we have a massive imperialist agenda thats sort of hard to do.
youre kidding me right? I find this comment extremly offensive and insulting to our service men.
 
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