JESUS in Christianity, JESUS in Islam: Which account is historically correct?

[UndeadCrow]

This thread is pointless.
This thread is for self-delusional people.

Which one is actually right?

 

[Alien Allen]

This thread is pointless.
This thread is for self-delusional people.

Which one is actually right?

Which one are you?

 

[UndeadCrow]

You're an idiot. I'm mocking the original poster's thread. The answer was very obvious.

 

[Alien Allen]

You're an idiot. I'm mocking the original poster's thread. The answer was very obvious.

Thanks for the compliment :thumbup

 

[UndeadCrow]

Maybe next time you can read between the lines.

 

[Alien Allen]

Maybe next time you can read between the lines.

I do not need to read between the lines when a troll is at work

I am impressed though you have lasted this far :thumbup

 

[UndeadCrow]

That has nothing to do with the topic.

 

[Sylviane88]

No one asked you to post answers .. No one asked you to think a lot like this :thumbup .. It's not your thread Mr "failed" ( oh I forgot: "all else" ) or "atheist" :nod: .. Post it here :thumbup​

 

[sophie]

Well....not to split hairs, but I think going by the title of the thread alone Sylviane, that YOU asked AEF (and indeed everyone) to post answers. If you don't want people to answer you, why post questions?

 

[Sylviane88]

Well....not to split hairs, but I think going by the title of the thread alone Sylviane, that YOU asked AEF (and indeed everyone) to post answers. If you don't want people to answer you, why post questions?

He is atheist as you know, I asked questions that should be answered by christians and none else !

 

[Sylviane88]

Ok ! we started with the divinity of Jesus ! Jesus was not god according to bible and he never said "I'm God" or "I'm son of God" or something like this in the bible.

No answers !

Therefore, we will continue to the second point: Is Jesus our savior ?​

(Deuteronomy 24:16): "The father shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
(Jeremiah 31:30): "But every one shall die for own iniquity..."
(Ezekiel 18:20): "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."​

So Adam and Eve were responsible for only their own sins !!!​

Even in the New Testament: ​

(I Corinthians 3:8): "Now he that planteth and he that waterth are one; and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour"
(Matthew 7:1,2): "Judge not, that ye be not Judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again"​

Everyone is responsible for his own sins ! Jesus will save none !!!​

Oh I forgot an important thing ! was Jesus even crucified ? this totally logical question as long as we’re told a lot of things that later prove to be doubtful or even untrue, so it would be reassuring if we could verify the fact ... So let’s ask the witnesses. Let’s ask the gospel authors: Umm, one problem. We don’t know who the authors were !!! ... the fact that all four gospels of the New Testament are anonymous !!! Nobody knows who wrote them. Graham Stanton says: "The gospels, unlike most Graeco-Roman writings, are anonymous. The familiar headings which give the name of an author (‘The Gospel according to . . .’) were not part of the original manuscripts, for they were added only early in the second century" ... Added in the second century? By whom? Believe it or not, that is anonymous as well ! : Hwo was Judah dead ? no answer ! There are many suspects even inconsistencies in the story of the death of Judas in the Gospel ! how about Jesus ??? ... ​

Ok let's forget all that !!! now take this: """who is hanged on the cross is accursed of God""" (Deuteronomy 21:23) .. Believe it or not again ! This provision also applies to Jesus !!! ( as Paul said to the Galatians 3:13 ) :ninja .. I like whas has said one Priest ( who became muslim ): """Why god need to be crucified, insulted, slapped and spit in his face, to forgive the sins of human ?""" ( In Islam: God can forgive anything without the theatrical of crucifixion and sacrifice ) ... a christian surely will answer: """ because he loves us""" !!! :​

Jesus said: """ Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law: and a man's foes shall be they of his own household """ (Matthew 10:34-36)
""" Howbeit these mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me""" (Luke 19:27).​

Waiting for answers

 

[sophie]

I'm an atheist as well, so I am presuming I am not welcome to give you my answer. So I won't tell you that since none of those people ever actually existed and it's all metaphorical stories, your questions are all moot. But I'm not welcome to respond. So I won't.

 

[Sylviane88]

I'm an atheist as well, so I am presuming I am not welcome to give you my answer. So I won't tell you that since none of those people ever actually existed and it's all metaphorical stories, your questions are all moot. But I'm not welcome to respond. So I won't.

You are the welcome to participate in the topic , but I'm afraid that a christian will not accept your answers about his religion, simply you'll give an atheist view and deny Jesus and the whole bible .. and -as well- the whole thread ! You said: """none of those people ever actually existed and it's all metaphorical stories""" .. Unfortunately, a christian cannot accept your answer .. however I want an answer that is accepted by any christian.

You are the welcome again ! and here are some unanswered importants questions for you specifically:

http://www.offtopicz.net/43844-can-sciences-prove-existence-god.html

Cordially - Sylviane

 

[Alien Allen]

This gets better and better

 

[All Else Failed]

sylviane no one cares go outside or something

 

[LetsAllConform]

Unfortunately, a christian cannot accept your answer .. however I want an answer that is accepted by any christian.http://

The only answer christians will accept is the one in favor of Jesus. So why are you looking for answers you already believe are true?

 

[Minor Axis]

you left one out :nod:
none of the above

Areed, this is a flawed poll. I don't see a valid choice.

 

[StanJon]

If Jesus is not the Son of God, then who is Silvane? I will prove to you that Jesus was the son of God and was in fact Divine. I don't have the time to participate but when i do, i will post.

 

[Minor Axis]

If Jesus is not the Son of God, then who is Silvane? I will prove to you that Jesus was the son of God and was in fact Divine. I don't have the time to participate but when i do, i will post.

Yes PROOF is desperately needed around here.

 

[Sylviane88]

If Jesus is not the Son of God, then who is Silvane?

A prophet like moses ( who had also miracles) .. like Abraham, David, Issac and Noah and other prophets sent by God.

I will prove to you that Jesus was the son of God and was in fact Divine. I don't have the time to participate but when i do, i will post.

Ok no problem StanJon I'll be waiting