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You know the more I read about the situation past and present in Gaza, the more I think the Israeli Govt and Military are a total bunch of arseholes. Check out the Guardian's feature on the war crimes Israel committed in their offensive in Gaza. Crimes include using Palestinian Children as human shields. I kid you not. Much worse than boarding an aid vessel in international waters.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/23/israel-gaza-war-crimes-guardian

Please watch the video, if features many war crimes, one of which is a young Palestinian boy tied to the front of an army jeep. Nice.
 
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The Gaurdian said:
The testimonies form the basis of three Guardian films which add weight to calls this week for a full inquiry into the events surrounding Operation Cast Lead, which was aimed at Hamas but left about 1,400 Palestinians dead, including more than 300 children.

this was of course into retaliation of 21 Israeli deaths.
 

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The Guardian said:
Medics and ambulance drivers said they were targeted when they tried to tend to the wounded; sixteen were killed. According to the World Health Organisation, more than half of Gaza's 27 hospitals and 44 clinics were damaged by Israeli bombs.

it just gets worse :(
 

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I should point out that I don't doubt Hamas has used human shields too. But for the Israeli Army to do so in such a violent offensive, killing hundreds of children, medics and women, is shocking.
 

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You know the more I read about the situation past and present in Gaza, the more I think the Israeli Govt and Military are a total bunch of arseholes. Check out the Guardian's feature on the war crimes Israel committed in their offensive in Gaza. Crimes include using Palestinian Children as human shields. I kid you not. Much worse than boarding an aid vessel in international waters.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/23/israel-gaza-war-crimes-guardian

Please watch the video, if features many war crimes, one of which is a young Palestinian boy tied to the front of an army jeep. Nice.
This is so anti-human, I never watched it before, then they condemn suicide bombing. What is to become of them?
 

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I guess you ignore the part where Hamas uses kids a shields too.

This is not one sided

Should it be condoned at all? Nope. It's hard to claim you have any superior morality when you use the same tactics as your enemy. Yes, I am holding Israel, our ally to a higher standard.
 

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I should point out that I don't doubt Hamas has used human shields too. But for the Israeli Army to do so in such a violent offensive, killing hundreds of children, medics and women, is shocking.
Look, what happened is that Israel in 2008 wanted to declare war over Gaza, to finish every sort of human life upon Hamas, they could never find Hasmas Soldiers, nor find any of them, so they kept killing civilians, and used forbidden phosphoric bombs. Hamas never used civilian nor children as human shields, they are courage enough, but Israel wanted to finish every sort of human life in Gaza, and use it as to persuade Hamas to come out and to finish them, but Hamas kept fighting back.
 

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One sides terrorists are the other sides freedom fighters. As I stated before, it mostly boils down to perspective. Israel, the Palestinians, and the U.S. have all committed what can be described as terrorist actions against it's enemies.
 

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Should it be condoned at all? Nope. It's hard to claim you have any superior morality when you use the same tactics as your enemy. Yes, I am holding Israel, our ally to a higher standard.

I am not condoning it at all

Unlike our friend MH though I do not bury my head in the sand

Hamas has been proven to do this time and time again
 

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Should it be condoned at all? Nope. It's hard to claim you have any superior morality when you use the same tactics as your enemy. Yes, I am holding Israel, our ally to a higher standard.

it's much worse than just the human shield thing. In the Gaza offensive, 1,400 Palestinians dead, half of which were civilians, and 300 of those were children. All this in response to 21 Israeli deaths.

International Law states any military response should be equal to that which it's a response to. I guess Israeli lives are more important to Palestinians by a factor of 66 or so.
 

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it's much worse than just the human shield thing. In the Gaza offensive, 1,400 Palestinians dead, half of which were civilians, and 300 of those were children. All this in response to 21 Israeli deaths.

International Law states any military response should be equal to that which it's a response to. I guess Israeli lives are more important to Palestinians by a factor of 66 or so.

Blah, blah, blah

Keep condoning the suicide attacks and lunacy of Hamas

Palestinians had a good deal which they turned down due to the idiot Arafat being greedy

I don't think either side really wants peace but I would side more with Israel as they have made peace with Jordan and Egypt
 

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One sides terrorists are the other sides freedom fighters. As I stated before, it mostly boils down to perspective. Israel, the Palestinians, and the U.S. have all committed what can be described as terrorist actions against it's enemies.
Hamas never did what Israel did, they never torture people.
 

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it's much worse than just the human shield thing. In the Gaza offensive, 1,400 Palestinians dead, half of which were civilians, and 300 of those were children. All this in response to 21 Israeli deaths.

International Law states any military response should be equal to that which it's a response to. I guess Israeli lives are more important to Palestinians by a factor of 66 or so.

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