Israel kills aids flotilla crew

[mhtal3at]

Yesterday's terrorist is today's freedom fighter, or vice a versa. Terrorism on both sides. Both parties have to get serious about resolving the issues, not killing each other.

ٍSo true, too bad one of them is looking for peace, and the other is looking for war. However, I've seen this movie before, have you?

 

[Minor Axis]

ٍSo true, too bad one of them is looking for peace, and the other is looking for war. However, I've seen this movie before, have you?

They can change. While I can believe your standard Palestinian and Israel families want's peace there are hard core advocates on the Arab side who want Israel wiped from the map. I all ready know you are going to say, "and with good reason", but that is only the way to more war, death, and destruction. I'll add it's easy for me to say as I'm not in the middle of the fighting.

Exodus?

 

[mhtal3at]

They can change. While I can believe your standard Palestinian and Israel families want's peace there are hard core advocates on the Arab side who want Israel wiped from the map. I all ready know you are going to say, "and with good reason", but that is only the way to more war, death, and destruction. I'll add it's easy for me to say as I'm not in the middle of the fighting.

Exodus?

You know, it is against Islam(which most Arabs follow) to have war while you have the option of peace. Egypt was in the same position, Israel occupied Sinai and we tried to get peace but in vain, they only responded when we declared war. Don't you blame Arabs, Israel is giving no other option, that's the message they deliver, did you get the message?

 

[retro]

You know, it is against Islam(which most Arabs follow) to have war while you have the option of peace. Egypt was in the same position, Israel occupied Sinai and we tried to get peace but in vain, they only responded when we declared war. Don't you blame Arabs, Israel is giving no other option, that's the message they deliver, did you get the message?

Israel offered a Palestinian state, and Arafat refused it. There's an option for peace, but the Palestinians refuse to accept it. There's a blockade in place in an attempt to stop the rocket attacks; that blockade can end as soon as they stop the attacks. It's a pretty simple concept, don't you think?

 

[mhtal3at]

Israel offered a Palestinian state, and Arafat refused it. There's an option for peace, but the Palestinians refuse to accept it. There's a blockade in place in an attempt to stop the rocket attacks; that blockade can end as soon as they stop the attacks. It's a pretty simple concept, don't you think?

About what Arafat said: imagine me occupying your house, and only letting you live in on room which is not enough for all the people who have to live in it, and you can sometimes bother me or convince me otherwise, then I tell you you shouldn't fight me, I am peaceful, and I want you to stop, I will cut all supplies from you until you stop=starve and then we can settle down on sth good, I give you a peace treaty and you don' accept it because you don't like you sitting officially in your room, soI pressurize you and make you live in a smaller part of the room, but you don't give up, you know why, cuz u understand that I want no peace, just want the whole place to me. Would you ever understand this?

 

[Alien Allen]

Oye :blah:

 

[retro]

About what Arafat said: imagine me occupying your house, and only letting you live in on room which is not enough for all the people who have to live in it, and you can sometimes bother me or convince me otherwise, then I tell you you shouldn't fight me, I am peaceful, and I want you to stop, I will cut all supplies from you until you stop=starve and then we can settle down on sth good, I give you a peace treaty and you don' accept it because you don't like you sitting officially in your room, soI pressurize you and make you live in a smaller part of the room, but you don't give up, you know why, cuz u understand that I want no peace, just want the whole place to me. Would you ever understand this?

Whatever you say. You also never addressed the fact that the blockade would stop if they stopped firing rockets into Israel, but they won't. Furthermore, Israel isn't occupying someone else's country... they have just as much right to that land as the Palestinians do, so your analogy is incorrect.

 

[mhtal3at]

Whatever you say. You also never addressed the fact that the blockade would stop if they stopped firing rockets into Israel, but they won't. Furthermore, Israel isn't occupying someone else's country... they have just as much right to that land as the Palestinians do, so your analogy is incorrect.

I could tell what intellectual level you have, you are as smart as the ones who say that Israel delared the 2008 because of the suicide bombing, and committed massacres(round the 1970s and 1980s) in order to retail the Intifada 2000.

Let go this interesting way of discussion, and lets get back mr excuses to why Israel hit those aids crew, nobody till now has made sense, someone says cyz they sprayed them, someone else alleged the crew having weapons(LOL), and they never mentioned why the choppers came ready with well-armed commandos, and they were even masked, so they were ready to battle, not as Israeli reports alleged that they wanted to the flotillas.
If you don't ant to address this last part it's ok, no one else could.

Furthermore, Israel isn't occupying someone else's country... they have just as much right to that land as the Palestinians do.

you said it's the Palestinians' too, so they have a right, just keep on your word and don't say later that's it's all Israel's.

About who's land it is, there were a lot more assholes who said Sinai was Israel's, or Israelis have the same land as Egyptians do, and they never quit these thoughts until Egypt carried out a war, about the Israeli clash with neighbours, I suggest you go back 4 pages backward, and see what was said then, nobody could prove Israel as the one TRYING to make peace with others.

 

[edgray]

so did the Israeli's find any evidence of terrorism on the aid vessels?

 

[Codrus]

so did the Israeli's find any evidence of terrorism on the aid vessels?

yes ...it was the british..they thought it was an oil tanker

 

[Minor Axis]

Here is a view of Israel's Illegal Occupation. Is this view in error? I'm not promoting it, but am posting it as a basis for dicussion.

Bringing an end to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land is as much a prerequisite for peace in the Middle East as is the Palestinian recognition of Israel. The Israeli occupation is not only inhuman and the cause of extreme suffering for the 3.5 million Palestinians living under its subjugation, but it is also illegal under international law. Attempts to claim otherwise have no legal validity and are morally bankrupt and politically dangerous since they basically preclude the achievement of peace.

Read more at the link above.

 

[mhtal3at]

Here is a view of Israel's Illegal Occupation. Is this view in error? I'm not promoting it, but am posting it as a basis for dicussion.

Attempts to claim otherwise have no legal validity and are morally bankrupt and politically dangerous since they basically preclude the achievement of peace.

Read more at the link above.

Attempts like those of the 2 geniuses we have here who still think a ship can pump water 200 feet in the air, which was so cruel that the peaceful commandos had to shoot 19 terrorist civilians, specially when most of those civilians were asleep