Israel kills aids flotilla crew

[skyblue]

I don't say it is right, but you say it is an excuse for Israel, as a government not as individual, killing civilians,

when did i say it was an excuse for israel?:24:.....all i say is dont condemn israel when the muslim world is doing just the same to the kurds

 

[mhtal3at]

middle eastern propoganda....thats why it had breaks in the speech,would be interesting to hear all of it

Ok hear all of it, that's all I could get, but you don't see breaks every 5 seconds, it's after a full speech, and US still helps Israel before everybody's eyes, it's a mistake for Egypt to smuggle it though, we should have done it b4 everybody's eyes, too.
Notice the difference, you don't want Egypt smuggling food, nor Turkey smuggling aids, and simply allow US to give 30-Billion Dollar militaristic aids. all I can say is LOL

 

[mhtal3at]

when did i say it was an excuse for israel?:24:.....all i say is dont condemn israel when the muslim world is doing just the same to the kurds

They are individuals, liable to be put in prisons or excued, but Israsel is a state, a government, and instead of having to be put in prisons, they will be declared war against, like US invading Iraq in 1992 Gulf War, with the excuse of killing Kuwaiti soldiers, how about the government that murders civilians, no questions about double standards.

 

[skyblue]

They are individuals, liable to be put in prisons or excued, but Israsel is a state, a government, and instead of having to be put in prisons, they will be declared war against, like US invading Iraq in 1992 Gulf War, with the excuse of killing Kuwaiti soldiers, how about the government that murders civilians, no questions about double standards.

you my friend are blindfolded,brainwashed......you are told what your governments want you to know,did your government tell you that iraq gassed whole kurdish villages?...or about 911 even?...do they tell you that in the west people have freedom of speech?....that in the west women are the equal of men who have a free will?...that you dont get beheaded for worshipping in the wrong way?

 

[retro]

Arabs descend from Ismaiel, look, I am not ready with evidence right now, but I promise to bring you them by July, I am really busy with exams.

Ishmael was the son of Abraham, just like Isaac. Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael, and Jews are the descendants of Isaac's son Jacob.

 

[retro]

The Pharaoh's story, when he kicked out the Jews, they ran to a place they never been to, which is Palestine, and where they found people who welcomed them, Canaan Arabs. now they are kicked out of it.

Canaan Arabs' history goes back to the fourth millennium BC. If you want some evidence I can bring you, but you'll look so stupid then, and I'll bring you them by July, I have exams now.

You're wrong again, after the Jews escaped from Egypt, they conquered the land that had been theirs previously.

 

[retro]

. Again, you don't see Muslims killing civilians in Britain, cuz if they do, they're not Muslims,

So you're not a muslim if you kill civilians? Then there are plenty of non-Muslims in the middle east.

 

[mhtal3at]

You're wrong again, after the Jews escaped from Egypt, they conquered the land that had been theirs previously.

1strove it
2nd: You are wrong, if they had any land, they wouldn't have looked for another one in Egypt
3: You're wrong.

 

[retro]

1strove it
2nd: You are wrong, if they had any land, they wouldn't have looked for another one in Egypt
3: You're wrong.

1) Historical texts including the Bible, and even Muslims accept the Torah

2) They left for Egypt to escape a drought

3) No, I'm really not

 

[mhtal3at]

Ishmael was the son of Abraham, just like Isaac. Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael, and Jews are the descendants of Isaac's son Jacob.

Exactly, each of them went to a different place, where there were people already living, (they were God messengers, sent to guide ppl, so there were people)
and Canaan Arabs were already there, living in Palestine, even their writing is more similar to Arabic, and has nothing to do with Hebrew.

 

[mhtal3at]

1) Historical texts including the Bible, and even Muslims accept the Torah

2) They left for Egypt to escape a drought

3) No, I'm really not

1: Yes we do, but the original one, not the human edition.
2:So thy left their country(never heard of this)
3:You are, again

 

[mhtal3at]

So you're not a muslim if you kill civilians? Then there are plenty of non-Muslims in the middle east.

LOL
never said so, killing civilians is not Islamic, not even in course of declared wars. But most of them are people hired to so doing, in order to come out and say we're Muslims, and help the narrow minded believe that Islam is the religion of terrorism.

 

[mhtal3at]

You're wrong again, after the Jews escaped from Egypt, they conquered the land that had been theirs previously.

You have no where to evade this, all your callings have been degraded, and been totally proven wrong.

 

[retro]

LOL
never said so, killing civilians is not Islamic, not even in course of declared wars. But most of them are people hired to so doing, in order to come out and say we're Muslims, and help the narrow minded believe that Islam is the religion of terrorism.

I don't believe that Islam is a religion of terrorism... I've defended Islam against that very argument. But the fact of the matter is the while not all Muslims are terrorists, most terrorists are Muslim.

 

[retro]

You have no where to evade this, all your callings have been degraded, and been totally proven wrong.

Where have you proven me wrong? You haven't. All you've said is that I'm wrong. You've provided no evidence that proves what I've said is incorrect.

 

[mhtal3at]

I don't believe that Islam is a religion of terrorism... I've defended Islam against that very argument. But the fact of the matter is the while not all Muslims are terrorists, most terrorists are Muslim.

I don't see you defending Islam, All you did was attacking Islam and blaming it of every single act that any Muslim does, and then I was called a zealot, so I knew where this conversation was going, accuse me of being a zealot, while it was you. But now you say you don't attack Islam, well, Islam never wanted ppl 2 be stupid zealots.

 

[mhtal3at]

Where have you proven me wrong? You haven't. All you've said is that I'm wrong. You've provided no evidence that proves what I've said is incorrect.

Everysingle story you said was completely argued against. You know wt? I don't blame you, it's the excellence of israel's media covering, which makes everyone believe their stories, I don't blae you, and not so proud of winning any arguments if I did, cuz you don't represent Israelis, Israelis are very good at escaping critical points, and getting it too personal.

 

[Alien Allen]

Retro quit feeding the troll

It aint worth it as there is not an honest discussion going on.

 

[mhtal3at]

Retro quit feeding the troll

It aint worth it as there is not an honest discussion going on.

I don't want to be accusing, but you really seem like a gang instead of a punch of trolls, when you seem to lose, u keep calling me a troll. Thank you for your compliment of implied speech of me wining and of you losing and evading, nice way to evade btw

 

[retro]

I don't see you defending Islam, All you did was attacking Islam and blaming it of every single act that any Muslim does, and then I was called a zealot, so I knew where this conversation was going, accuse me of being a zealot, while it was you. But now you say you don't attack Islam, well, Islam never wanted ppl 2 be stupid zealots.

I haven't attacked Islam whatsoever. I've attacked people who commit atrocities in the name of their religion. There's a massive difference between the two. Unfortunately, you are a zealot, all you've done is parrot what your religion has told you to believe. You've refused to acknowledge that Israel is a sovereign nation and as such has the right to enforce a blockade to prevent the possibility of weapons being smuggled in that could be used against their citizens. You've denied the fact that the Jews had settled in that area prior to any Arabs (either the descendants of Ishmael or those that descended from the Arab tribes in the Arabian Peninsula).

Islam is a peaceful religion that has been hijacked by religious extremists in order to further their political ambitions and desire for power. I've never stated otherwise.