Is War on Terror Counter-productive??

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The Man

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That's not my post .

It was buried in mazHur's post
I know..I dragged the mouse and highlighted the text and clicked on the black quote oval that popped up...made my post and it made it appear as if it was your post..so i edited what I had typed in then stated I thought it was mazs post...which it actually is...as I didnt want to keep the response there as you didnt make the original statement.
 
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mazHur, you don't own these threads you start.
It's a debated forum and challenge/rebut is a normal event in one.
If you don't like being challenged, don't post the shit you do.
He starts debate threads then gets upset when people dont agree with him.
His biggest problem is the thread he starts as you say...slapping up some BS then expects it to stand.
I think debate may be to much of a jump for him from blogging.
 

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He starts debate threads then gets upset when people dont agree with him.
His biggest problem is the thread he starts as you say...slapping up some BS then expects it to stand.
I think debate may be to much of a jump for him from blogging.


A lot of that plus he's used to being arrogant because of his caste....... and automatically accepted as an authority.
Too bad he was hung up on pride plus being a terrorist sympathizer .
Could have had some interesting conversations.

However, I think I've actually learned more about Pakistan from challenging mazHur.
 

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He starts debate threads then gets upset when people dont agree with him.
His biggest problem is the thread he starts as you say...slapping up some BS then expects it to stand.
I think debate may be to much of a jump for him from blogging.


I am still amazed at how many 'I hate the US' threads he's started.
There are only 4 non mazHur threads on the first forum page as I write this.

Not even the pooch could top that.
 

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I am still amazed at how many 'I hate the US' threads he's started.
There are only 4 non mazHur threads on the first forum page as I write this.

Not even the pooch could top that.
Alot of American hate for sure.
 

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If he were Iraqi, I would excuse his attitude, but his nation really is part of the reason there is a war in his back yard, a big part.
He is simply a terrorist sympathizer that's using this web site as a propaganda billboard.
 

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Stone said: ↑

You've posted that article several times. Have you read it?


Not several times,,,this is just a single repeat, you liar!

If you still won't learn a lesson from it I may be obliged to post it again!!

You have posted that article several times. That's a fact by your own word.
But I asked if you read it.

Did you read it?

Do you understand what occurred and the part your nation played in secretly funding the al Qaeda attack on the US that allowed Bush to rationalize an invasion on Iraq Which actually played no part in attacking the US or in your nation's deception?


You are advancing a wrong to cover your own nation's wrong doing.
You have no honor to save, mazHur.....just trash talk.
 

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What woke you up?
Honor killings.
Child brides.
Over 60 terrorist organizations.
Incest.
Animal fuckers.
Molesters.
Or just the general hate for the west?
Charging nine month old babies with conspiracy to commit murder.
Death sentences to Christian for drinking water out of unmarked cups.
Parents taking thier children to the police station to honor kill them in front of the police station as the police watch.
People fucking the dead.
People living off a dollar a day.
Roof top shooters.
Drones overhead.
Shampoo in your milk...which really isnt milk.
Sewers as fresh water supplies.

Maybe you are not a moron after all.


you are confusing India, Burma and Afghanistan with Pakistan...
Why didn't you say you ie America is the biggest producer and supplier of Porn??
Why can't you see that america ranks among the topmost RAPIST countries?
Why don't you see your mad shooters who kill innocent people in universities, campuses and headquarters, etc?

Why can't you see how you treat your women as second class citizens/?

Why can't you discern that you live on beggary from your state??
Ha!! you feign angelhood,,!! how many wings do you have?
 

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mazHur, you don't own these threads you start.
It's a debated forum and challenge/rebut is a normal event in one.
If you don't like being challenged, don't post the shit you do.


I told you I am not obliged to post replies to your trolling bullshit.
If you don't like my threads go somewhere else to propagate your crap.
 

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You have posted that article several times. That's a fact by your own word.
But I asked if you read it.

Did you read it?

Do you understand what occurred and the part your nation played in secretly funding the al Qaeda attack on the US that allowed Bush to rationalize an invasion on Iraq Which actually played no part in attacking the US or in your nation's deception?


You are advancing a wrong to cover your own nation's wrong doing.
You have no honor to save, mazHur.....just trash talk.


People are talking about holding you for the War crimes...
IF you have any questions you can contact him directly...at his given ID..or at twitter
Here...


Open Memo To War Criminal Tony Blair

By Alan Hart

16 June, 2014
Alanhart.net

You have stated on your website and confirmed in an interview with the BBC that “We (presumably that’s you as prime minister and President Bush) didn’t cause the Iraq crisis.” The main cause of what is happening in Iraq today is, you said, the “predictable and malign effect” of the Western failure to intervene in Syria. And you are calling for unspecified intervention in Iraq. I presume you mean drone and other air attacks – war without American and British boots on the ground.

I think the leaders of all the major powers are to be condemned for allowing the slaughter and destruction in Syria to proceed, so I agree that intervention to stop it was needed. The question is – what form should intervention have taken?

In my view what was required at a very early point was a private conversation between President Obama and President Putin. In it Obama would have said to Putin something like, “What’s your price for requiring President Assad to stand down and make way for internationally supervised elections?” That’s the way an American president who was a real statesman would have played it. My speculation is that Putin would have responded positively on terms acceptable to Obama.

Now to your assertion that you and President Bush should not be blamed in whole or in part for what is happening in Iraq today.

In passing I have to say that I agree with Michael Stephens, an expert on Iraq and Syria for the Royal United Services Institute. He said that your war on Iraq played a big part in the fragmentation of that country. He added: “I think Mr. Blair is washing his hands of responsibility.”

I also agree with Sir Christopher Meyer, Britain’s ambassador to the U.S. from 1997 to 2003. In an article for the Mail On Sunday he said the handling of the campaign against Saddam Hussein was “perhaps the most significant reason” for the sectarian violence now gripping Iraq. He added: “We are reaping what we sowed in 2003. This is not hindsight. We knew in the run-up to war that the overthrow of Saddam Hussein would seriously destabilize Iraq after 24 years of his iron rule.

The bottom-line truth is that as the leader of Iraq’s Sunni minority, Saddam Hussein kept his foot on the throats of its Shia majority. In doing so he was serving what the West considered to be its best interests – preventing Iran from spreading its influence. The removal of Saddam Hussein brought about, predictably, the opposite.


I suggest, TB, that you didn’t give a damn about the consequences of removing Saddam Hussein because your agenda was determined by Zionism and its non-Jewish neo-con allies and associates in America. That agenda, public not secret, was removing Saddam Hussein, “rolling back” Syria and regime change in Iran. It was a grand strategy designed to guarantee that Israel would remain free to go on imposing its will on the region.

What you and Bush actually did was to set in motion what has become virtually a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia; a war that could have catastrophic consequences for the world, not just the region.


And one more thing, TB. I think those who described you as a “Bush puppet” and an “American stooge” were wrong. You are a neo-con. And it’s my guess that you colluded with America’s neo-cons to push President Bush to war. Could that be why you and your American neo-con associates don’t want the Chilcot Inquiry to publish the transcripts of your conversations with Bush?

Alan Hart is a former ITN and BBC Panorama foreign correspondent. He is author of Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews. He blogs at http://www.alanhart.net and tweets via http://twitter.com/alanauthor
 

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I know..I dragged the mouse and highlighted the text and clicked on the black quote oval that popped up...made my post and it made it appear as if it was your post..so i edited what I had typed in then stated I thought it was mazs post...which it actually is...as I didnt want to keep the response there as you didnt make the original statement.

What a turncoat you are! Stop manipulating my comments to suit your evil designs.
 

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You have posted that article several times. That's a fact by your own word.
But I asked if you read it.

Did you read it?

Do you understand what occurred and the part your nation played in secretly funding the al Qaeda attack on the US that allowed Bush to rationalize an invasion on Iraq Which actually played no part in attacking the US or in your nation's deception?


You are advancing a wrong to cover your own nation's wrong doing.
You have no honor to save, mazHur.....just trash talk.
Idiota, what makes you think that a poor country can 'fund' a terrorist org like Al Quada??
Sheer nonsense.

Those who attacked America were Arabs brought up in America itself!! You created your own enemies but plunged Pak and the world in perpetual turmoil and bloodshed//
Blame yourself ......like Tony Blair your leaders have acted like neocons.....Why not they be tried as war criminals?
 

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If he were Iraqi, I would excuse his attitude, but his nation really is part of the reason there is a war in his back yard, a big part.
He is simply a terrorist sympathizer that's using this web site as a propaganda billboard.
BTW how much you trolls are 'paying' me to carry out the 'propaganda'?
 

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A lot of that plus he's used to being arrogant because of his caste....... and automatically accepted as an authority.
Too bad he was hung up on pride plus being a terrorist sympathizer .
Could have had some interesting conversations.

However, I think I've actually learned more about Pakistan from challenging mazHur.
you are over fed troll...who lives off media and classified news..
that's all beggars like you can get/\

If you promise to visit me in Pak I too counter promise to teach you many more learning techniques////\\\\\\\
 

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Stone said: ↑

mazHur, you don't own these threads you start.
It's a debated forum and challenge/rebut is a normal event in one.
If you don't like being challenged, don't post the shit you do.


I told you I am not obliged to post replies to your trolling bullshit.
If you don't like my threads go somewhere else to propagate your crap.

You seem confused.
If you don't want to respond to being called out as a liar, simply don't.
No one is making you.
But you still don't own the threads you start.
 

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you are confusing India, Burma and Afghanistan with Pakistan...
Why didn't you say you ie America is the biggest producer and supplier of Porn??
Why can't you see that america ranks among the topmost RAPIST countries?
Why don't you see your mad shooters who kill innocent people in universities, campuses and headquarters, etc?

Why can't you see how you treat your women as second class citizens/?

Why can't you discern that you live on beggary from your state??
Ha!! you feign angelhood,,!! how many wings do you have?


The mad man from Karachi strikes again :D

You must really hate yourself down deep for not being able to safe face concerning reality.
 

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Idiota, what makes you think that a poor country can 'fund' a terrorist org like Al Quada??
Sheer nonsense.

Those who attacked America were Arabs brought up in America itself!! You created your own enemies but plunged Pak and the world in perpetual turmoil and bloodshed//
Blame yourself ......like Tony Blair your leaders have acted like neocons.....Why not they be tried as war criminals?


what makes you think that a poor country can 'fund' a terrorist org like Al Quada??
Your governments admission for one and the fact you have plenty to spend on nuclear weapons.


Those who attacked America were Arabs brought up in America itself!!
Nope.

like Tony Blair your leaders have acted like neocons
You obviously don't know what a neocon is.
Blair wasn't, Bush was.

You created your own enemies but plunged Pak and the world in perpetual turmoil and bloodshed//
You are blathering in denial :p


Why not they be tried as war criminals?
There are plenty of good reasons to try them, just like there were good reasons to declare war on Pakistan but didn't.
The world isn't perfect.
 
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