I'm OUt Of Here

For the record, I would like to state that if you hadn't mention Aspergers and/or if I had not seen it mentioned before with regard to Peter I would have been none the wiser. For I don't see Peter's contributions any much different to how many others express themselves. And I would venture to say some others have expressed themselves far worse including blatant personal attacks where he had not. So this so called "Aspergers" thing is of little or no regard to me for judging his behavior. Frankly speaking I'm sick and fed up of it being used as a label on him. Then, if it is, what is to be said of those that behave in a blatantly offensive manner?

I have followed the situation very closely and from what I saw Peter didn't say anything that was abusive. Sensitive yes, maybe to some, but yet nothing that was not offered before by others with regard the war and not shared by a good many. Additionally he did not throw a personal attack on another poster. On the contrary, the first personal attack came from the other poster...and even then he had not reacted in kind. From what I gather, they both were warned and infracted behind the scenes. The other poster had edited, and quite rightly so, the offending personal attack. The mods had deliberated and acted fairly IMO.

What is unfortunate is, and I am going to be brutally frank here, is a Super Mod having had the benefit of private deliberations and consensus would follow up with a series of very harsh comments in a thread inclusive of obscene language directed to the other poster and also taking jabs at the other moderators. That IMO was uncalled for and totally inappropriate behavior for one of authority and in no way ought to be condoned. Perhaps he didn't care a damn at the point of writing but nevertheless these kind of things are not acceptable and we need to learn from our mistakes or face the consequences to be reminded from time to time. C'est la vie.

I wasn't going to mention Aspergers myself, as that is up to the individual who has that or any other med condition at that, to mention it, it is not up to others. However, crusty brought it up as Peter using it as an excuse, so I needed to clear it up and say how it is, as opposed to how that person perceived it - to put it into perspective because it isn't used as an excuse, just to clarify and he doesn't mention it that much.

No, I agree, he didn't say anything offensive from our point of view, he was actually meaning bush when saying America and that's how we refer to it over here, the way he said it, so it isn't him being insensitive at all as has been suggested, it is just the way we say things here. it's just different for each country, different ways that's all.

Anyway, I hope this all stops now and I think it is calming down finally - it's worn me out let alone the others. :) ;)
 
Honestly, I talked to Peter a while back about how this forum getting verbally abusive. 9/10 I usually just stay away from a topic if I feel that I'm not going to be able to keep my emotions in check. But there are others in here that see these threads as their personal way to voice an ignorant opinion, or just a way to express themselves in way that would be completely inappropriate in a face to face conversation.

I too felt the same way as Peter not 2 weeks ago. I think then I expressed to both him and Debbie how I was feeling about posting here, and they both seemed to agree with my wanting to step back for a bit.

I'm not a super-poster here...hell, It's been pointed out on several occasions how it's taken me nearly 3 years to accumulate less than 2000 posts, but hey, I pick my threads and only speak when I feel the need. More so than in the past do to the fact that I'm no longer in the Navy and therefore have I have less fear of reprisal from my superiors. For those of you still in the military and you think this site isn't being monitored, guess again. After 3 years of working for the NAvy/Marine Corps Intranet (NMCI), I can whole-heartedly guarantee you that this site is monitored. Of course, NCIS can kiss my posterior at this point, but I digress.

Peter may or may not need some cooling off time. He could be gone for good. All I can say is that when I was over in the UK on business, he was a great host...took me to a few great pubs and we did a little sight-seeing as well. HE's a good man and a good husband. We both agreed to disagree on several topics, but with that being said, we both, I beleive, respected each other's opinions.

I mean think about it: HEre I am, an AMerican who has 12 years of military service under my belt, and Peter, who's a Brit with some very strong anti-war feelings...and we got along famously!

Anyway's...I hope that Peter does come back to read this. He's a great guy and I may be right behind him...or, I may just go back to my old ways and just log in here for the games...who knows.
 
i love you ron...but lets not tell anyone;)

i love you ,not only for that post but also because you and i have had rows on here about issues which we will never agree on ,and ive sat here wanting to strangle you over it...but then you send a message and word it in such a way that i suddenly want to kiss you instead.
you seem to understand our humour and our phrasiology ,and i think our political point of view on things due to your time here in our country.

i love the way i can vehemently disagree with you and get frustrated with you ,but you then calm it down and respect me for my views ....that is how it should be:)





oh and i love it when you talk dirty to me and ryan:24:
 
I've recently been giving a warning for not agreeing with the USAs actions in Iraq. It seems that now its ok for people to call me a moron for this and we are not supposed to critisize the USA in anyway. This is stupid and not the sort of forum I want to be on. I've had enough of this. Those of you who are my friends here, you know who you are, keep in touch on the phone or myspace. See ya!
I feel there is more than meets the eye. Like my penis. I cant really opinionate on this until further review. :humm:

So, did the person who posted the quote below get a warning? Because post 26 is not "Name Calling"... but this below is plain insulting on an extremely personal level!!! And the fact that it has since been editted out of the original post does not mean it wasn't said, and didn't hurt.






Peter, I am sorry to see you go. But I totally understand why you wouldn't want to stick around a forum with people like the above on it!

I dont think you're around enough to come to such a conclusion. However, it is YOUR opinion and you're entitled to it. :shrug:
 
I dont think you're around enough to come to such a conclusion. However, it is YOUR opinion and you're entitled to it. :shrug:

Perhaps the admins can check this... I log in pretty much every single day. Like Ron, I mostly read, and only have a say when I feel very strongly about something, or if I find something interesting. For the most part, I am online, as I am in "real life", a people watcher.
 
Perhaps the admins can check this... I log in pretty much every single day. Like Ron, I mostly read, and only have a say when I feel very strongly about something, or if I find something interesting. For the most part, I am online, as I am in "real life", a people watcher.

Just watching people doesnt really build fellowship. And if you do read as much as you say you do, then I would think you would be able to recognize this site as being a pretty loving community. Yeah we get in our skirmishes, but who doesnt?
 
Just watching people doesnt really build fellowship. And if you do read as much as you say you do, then I would think you would be able to recognize this site as being a pretty loving community. Yeah we get in our skirmishes, but who doesnt?

Boomz, this place has gone from a group of tight knit people who respected each others opinions, to everyone bashing each others opinions...it's not really fun anytmore and a lot of the really new people are to blame to be honest with you. Someone makes a comment, you reply giving your opinion, then someone comes in from right field and bashes you for replying. It's pretty much been said, but appearantly if your opinion doesn't mesh with the masses here, you're garbage...pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.





Although I'm betting that you're not, and that's cool too.
 
Boomz, this place has gone from a group of tight knit people who respected each others opinions, to everyone bashing each others opinions...it's not really fun anytmore and a lot of the really new people are to blame to be honest with you. Someone makes a comment, you reply giving your opinion, then someone comes in from right field and bashes you for replying. It's pretty much been said, but appearantly if your opinion doesn't mesh with the masses here, you're garbage...pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.





Although I'm betting that you're not, and that's cool too.

I think alot of us maybe need a break. I have noticed what you're saying too. Lately everyone has been a bit more jagged and edgy. But rather than fighting or separating, I think we all need to sit back, remember why we're here and move on. Forget about what was said, the arguments. Forget about the debating and get down to loving each other again.
 
Just watching people doesnt really build fellowship. And if you do read as much as you say you do, then I would think you would be able to recognize this site as being a pretty loving community. Yeah we get in our skirmishes, but who doesnt?

Watching does give one a bit of perspective in situations where those who are more actively involved sometimes might lack objectivity.

And again, I agree with Ron... this site was a loving community, but there is a change happening.
 
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