I agree that nothing posted was out of line but what was said was quoted by others so even though it was edited out, it's still recorded. That person didn't get a warning for name calling though.
I'm OUt Of Here
- Thread starter Peter Parka
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I agree. He said something about us killing innocent people(Which is true), and somebody got all butthurt from it. No reason to report a somebody.
you shoudn't leave people have said things to me too but, iam not going anywhere. it would be terrible if you leave for good.
So, did the person who posted the quote below get a warning? Because post 26 is not "Name Calling"... but this below is plain insulting on an extremely personal level!!! And the fact that it has since been editted out of the original post does not mean it wasn't said, and didn't hurt.
Peter, I am sorry to see you go. But I totally understand why you wouldn't want to stick around a forum with people like the above on it!
Peter, I am sorry to see you go. But I totally understand why you wouldn't want to stick around a forum with people like the above on it!
Butterfly, the "people like the above" are all being supportive. Please identify for me, one post that is to the contrary.
This is not the first time people will have had differences of opinions and react passionately at times nor would it be the last. It's human. This can be worked out. It's do-able. Nothing would be gained from throwing words at one another.
"people like the above" in my post refers to the quote I posted above what I was typing
Not to the people who had previously posted in *this* thread I'm pretty sure what she meant by "people above", was the person who's quote she reposted.
Aww damn. You were one of my favourite members, Peter. Shame to see you go. Hope to stay in touch, maybe.
"people like the above" in my post refers to the quote I posted above what I was typing
Oh, I see. Please accept my apologies for the misunderstanding.
I sure hope not!! I love having you guys around. I wish there were more of ya!!
MF had some Canadians who contributed regularly. What ever happened to MikeHawke?? He had "Good Peoples" written all over him.
First off, I am female. (As in NOT a him or he.)
Secondly, it was the implication that Americans are killing innocent Iraqis that I found offensive.
And thrid, I too was admonished for the name calling.
And I went back and edited it because I was wrong for resorting to name calling. And I want to make it clear that I was not calling him that name because of his Aspergers, I wasn't even thinking about him having that at the time. I understand that when I tagged the word 'savant' on there it did make it seem as if that was exactly what the intention was.
But it wasn't.
My own son has a whole lot of complications due to his extremely premature birth, So whether you believe me or not. The truth is I wasn't trying to use his Aspergers against him.
But since the whole ball of wax has come out I will state right here and now that I do believe he uses his Aspergers as an excuse every time he gets called out for being a jerk.
I am prior military. One of the things they drum into your head is that Excuses will not be tolerated. So I do take objection to that behavior and maybe that came out in my post. It wasn't the intention though.
I am a noob around here. So no one will be hurt if I bail.
And that's what I intend to do.
Please don't leave Uncle Bacon, this whole mess was my fault, And I'm sorry.
Once again I am stating that the names I called Peter were because of his actions and not because of his Aspergers.
Not that it matters now, because people will think what they want to anyway.
Have a great life!
Secondly, it was the implication that Americans are killing innocent Iraqis that I found offensive.
And thrid, I too was admonished for the name calling.
And I went back and edited it because I was wrong for resorting to name calling. And I want to make it clear that I was not calling him that name because of his Aspergers, I wasn't even thinking about him having that at the time. I understand that when I tagged the word 'savant' on there it did make it seem as if that was exactly what the intention was.
But it wasn't.
My own son has a whole lot of complications due to his extremely premature birth, So whether you believe me or not. The truth is I wasn't trying to use his Aspergers against him.
But since the whole ball of wax has come out I will state right here and now that I do believe he uses his Aspergers as an excuse every time he gets called out for being a jerk.
I am prior military. One of the things they drum into your head is that Excuses will not be tolerated. So I do take objection to that behavior and maybe that came out in my post. It wasn't the intention though.
I am a noob around here. So no one will be hurt if I bail.
And that's what I intend to do.
Please don't leave Uncle Bacon, this whole mess was my fault, And I'm sorry.
Once again I am stating that the names I called Peter were because of his actions and not because of his Aspergers.
Not that it matters now, because people will think what they want to anyway.
Have a great life!
Well, I dont know what else to say except isnt this supposed to be a community?
Each Community has people in it that like to push buttons and stir waves etc on occasion, the same people are always normally the first ones there is you need a hand or are feeling down.
You will be missed, and i surely hope you decide to change your mind and come back.....
Each Community has people in it that like to push buttons and stir waves etc on occasion, the same people are always normally the first ones there is you need a hand or are feeling down.
You will be missed, and i surely hope you decide to change your mind and come back.....
Peter and his wife are both friends. I am going to phone them later on and speak to his wife too, if she is up to it - they are good people and would help anyone. Since his Aspergers has been brought up in this thread, I will mention this. I can safely say he doesn't use his Aspergers an excuse, there is a difference between 'using something as an excuse' and giving an explanation. Peter speaks about it so that in his own way, he is letting people know why he says certain things, not as an excuse. Thing is, he gets muddled with how to say things a lot of the time and that is why he is unable to express an explanation in the way those of us without Aspergers, are able to explain things.
Some people say a hell of a lot worse all the time and give no apology - Peter apologizes when he is told something he has said isn't quite right, once he is able to see it for himself, but with Aspergers, the brain has a different thought process to those without it, so it takes him longer to rationalize.
Just some tolerance to his ways is called for, which most people have towards him anyway, but he does not excuse himself.
There is a thread here called ADHD - for some reason, his ways were brought into question there, but his wife took the time, when she didn't have to even bother, to explain Peter's ways, his medical condition.
I will find out more when I call him, but I am doing that as a friend and then if he comes back after that he can - Veronica has posted for him to come back too, so he is able to.
Some people say a hell of a lot worse all the time and give no apology - Peter apologizes when he is told something he has said isn't quite right, once he is able to see it for himself, but with Aspergers, the brain has a different thought process to those without it, so it takes him longer to rationalize.
Just some tolerance to his ways is called for, which most people have towards him anyway, but he does not excuse himself.
There is a thread here called ADHD - for some reason, his ways were brought into question there, but his wife took the time, when she didn't have to even bother, to explain Peter's ways, his medical condition.
I will find out more when I call him, but I am doing that as a friend and then if he comes back after that he can - Veronica has posted for him to come back too, so he is able to.
Deb.. I'm really confused with this.. you know when something doesn't make sense, and you just can't let it go until it does? I'm like that with a lot of things
must.....know....the....answer!
I'm gonna end up as one of those old guys who lives in the weird looking house on the block, has books everywhere, and looks freaky with his skullet hair-do.:unsure:
No, I'll be putting you in a nursing home before that happens.
this is why i never get political.
For the record, I would like to state that if you hadn't mention Aspergers and/or if I had not seen it mentioned before with regard to Peter I would have been none the wiser. For I don't see Peter's contributions any much different to how many others express themselves. And I would venture to say some others have expressed themselves far worse including blatant personal attacks where he had not. So this so called "Aspergers" thing is of little or no regard to me for judging his behavior. Frankly speaking I'm sick and fed up of it being used as a label on him. Then, if it is, what is to be said of those that behave in a blatantly offensive manner?
I have followed the situation very closely and from what I saw Peter didn't say anything that was abusive. Sensitive yes, maybe to some, but yet nothing that was not offered before by others with regard the war and not shared by a good many. Additionally he did not throw a personal attack on another poster. On the contrary, the first personal attack came from the other poster...and even then he had not reacted in kind. From what I gather, they both were warned and infracted behind the scenes. The other poster had edited, and quite rightly so, the offending personal attack. The mods had deliberated and acted fairly IMO.
What is unfortunate is, and I am going to be brutally frank here, is a Super Mod having had the benefit of private deliberations and consensus would follow up with a series of very harsh comments in a thread inclusive of obscene language directed to the other poster and also taking jabs at the other moderators. That IMO was uncalled for and totally inappropriate behavior for one of authority and in no way ought to be condoned. Perhaps he didn't care a damn at the point of writing but nevertheless these kind of things are not acceptable and we need to learn from our mistakes or face the consequences to be reminded from time to time. C'est la vie.