Im about to hurt the neighbor boy!

[Dana]

The Kid is 7... Enough said.

 

[anathelia]

Some kids don't understand certain things about life, whatever the reason may be.

My brother is 7 and he has autism and he doesn't always understand the appropriate way to act. He's usually very quiet unless he doesn't get his afternoon pill that keeps him calm, then he can act like this kid sounds like he's acting.

IMO, as frustrating as it can be, he's still 7 and he may be continuing to act out because he sees he's getting under your skin...sort of like a little brother. I would talk to his grandmother and see if she can offer any insight into his behavior or whatever else. If he doesn't have parents around...sometimes kids act out in strange ways.

I know it's hard, but you have to be patient. He's still a child, no matter how much of a pain he may be.

 

[AnitaBeer]

Some kids don't understand certain things about life, whatever the reason may be.

My brother is 7 and he has autism and he doesn't always understand the appropriate way to act. He's usually very quiet unless he doesn't get his afternoon pill that keeps him calm, then he can act like this kid sounds like he's acting.

IMO, as frustrating as it can be, he's still 7 and he may be continuing to act out because he sees he's getting under your skin...sort of like a little brother. I would talk to his grandmother and see if she can offer any insight into his behavior or whatever else. If he doesn't have parents around...sometimes kids act out in strange ways.

I know it's hard, but you have to be patient. He's still a child, no matter how much of a pain he may be.

I agree.

One would also have to wonder the situation as to why his grandma is raising him. I'm sure that is taking a toll on the kid too.

There are many things that could be behind this behavior, the best way to figure it out is to talk to the one who raises him.

Either way, a simple offering of a drink of water and then a chat with grandma should help iron out the problems and offer some understanding. It's what I would do anyways.

 

[Dana]

The way this thread was worded and laid out, you come across as one rude individual. First of all what parents tells a child NO when they ask for a drink? Give the kid some water or something else. Do not tell the kid to go home and get his own drink. Strike two sounds like a bunch of lame excuses to just get the child to go away. You could of just said he's leaving soon. Not all children are naive and he may have thought you were just trying to get him to go home which is why he persisted. Swearing at the child is incredibly juvenile.

 

[Xeno]

Xeno, I love your input on this forum, but man, your signature is killin' me. No offense intended... I'm just sayin'...

Alright! I have fixed the signature, but cut me some slack on the formatting. Its a force of habit at times.

Anyways...back to the topic at hand. lol​

 

[Dana]

And Sunny D isn't "juice". It's fake ass sugar laden orange flavored caca.

 

[cam elle toe]

And Sunny D isn't "juice". It's fake ass sugar laden orange flavored caca.

HA...perhaps she SHOULD have given it to the little "heathen" then.:24:

 

[Willow]

Having just read every single post on this thread, I would like to say something...
My intention is not to single out any post or reply, flame or start any kind of fight.. I abhor that.. but as a mother of four adult children and grandmother of three, I am speechless to say the least, by some ~not all~ of the replies..

I am putting myself in that little boy's place, and I guess I'm placing myself as his advocate here..

To start... just looking at this thread's title gave me goose bumps!..

This is a little 7 year old boy you are all talking about!..

The words Compassion and Understanding are the first things that come to my mind..

We live in a world that expect too much, too soon.. We are imperfect, but expect perfection from everyone else..
Little children are not immune to those expectations..

Sadly, the same adults that are pushing those expectations to the maximum, are the the very ones that are teaching children the old refrain of "Do as I say, not as I do".. leaving them bewildered and unable to follow the rules those adults are setting in stone for them..
We need to teach by examples.. not just empty words..

A seven year old boy is not an adult.. he is just a little kid!!..

Little 7 year old boys do not understand sarcasm, and are really hurt by angry words or actions..

Little boys are sweet, curious, active and smart.. they only want to please others and learn new things..

Little 7 year old boys are loving and want to be loved.. but if all they receive from adults is rejection, anger, and sarcasm, they will act accordingly..

If they are being ignored by adults, they will seek attention from anyone.. they will even use Negative Attention..

The questions below are not directed towards anyone in particular participating in this thread, and they are coming to my mind faster than I can type..

I'm using the word "you" as a catch all.. so if "you" think they apply to "you"... "you" can accept or dismiss them.. or, in the case of the OP, see if some of my thoughts apply to the situation and maybe see if you can find a way of helping this little boy..

Has anyone thought of the possibilities that this little boy is crying out for help by using Negative Attention?..

Has anyone remotely thought that this little boy could be suffering from an illness that could be causing that behavior?..
Autism and ADHD are the ones right on top of my head, but there are many, many of them that are masked in behavior problems.. Only a physician can diagnose and treat them...
He could also be a child born of a drug addicted mother and have some grade of brain injury, making him a little bit more difficult to manage..

Does anyone know why this little boy is being raised by the grandmother?..
Does anyone know where this little boy's parents are?..
Has anyone ever had a calm conversation with her to find out the reasons why he is living with her and not his parents?..
Could it be that she is overwhelmed by having to raise him.. and that is the reason he is always at someone's house, other than his grandmother's?..
Is it possible that she has no access to resources that can help her take care of the little boy?..

I could go on forever with questions like the ones above, but I won't do that, because if I have not made you think a little with those I've already asked.. you are really not capable of understanding child behavior, and I would have wasted my time as it is..

There is one more thing I would like to mention... it's called Common Sense..

If a little 7 year old boy wanted to make my house his hangout grounds, and did not understand when I gently asked him to go home... I would never ignore him.. yell at him.. or close the door on his face..
He is doing that for a reason, and I would want to know exactly what that reason might be..

I would gently hold his little hand, and walk him to his house.. knock on the door or ring the doorbell and wait for his grandmother to come out..
Then, I would explain the situation to her, and in a polite way ask her if there was anything she could do to keep him from going to my house uninvited..

I would also ask her if there was anything I could do to help her.. and I would also tell her I'm friendly and if she needs someone to talk with ~notice I didn't say to "talk to"~.. she could always come to my house for a cup of coffee and a chat.. She might just be as lonely and misunderstood as her grandson..

My last thought..
When I was raising my four children, we needed every penny my husband earned working two full time jobs.. sixteen hours a day.. to pay for bills, food and clothing, so I know more than I care to say, about living with a very tight budget.. but I never denied any child that came to my house a drink or food of any kind..
On the contrary, I would cook a little extra.. and feed them at my table.. with my whole family..
That is the way I taught my children.. with actions and examples...

For God's sake.. Sunny D is not that expensive.. it only costs a few cents for a small glass..
If my own five year old cannot share a tiny bit of his drink with another child.. how is he going to learn that sharing is part of life?..

Isn't the smile on a little child's face worth that small price?..

If a child cannot be a child when he is little... when is he going to be one?..
Children are little kids for only a short time... then we expect them to be adults..

Do you remember being five.. six.. or seven years old, and how it felt when you were denied something??..
You were only a little kid then..

Getting off my now.....

 

[Pumpkin]

What kind of a person are you? A 7 year old boy asks for a drink and not only do you say no AND deny him even water but it annoys you as well?! Christ when I have children I hope we don't have neighbours like you.

Ok he shouldn't just wander into your house like that but he's a child for heavens sake, he's curious and his questions come because they want to know everything at that age!

 

[AnitaBeer]

And Sunny D isn't "juice". It's fake ass sugar laden orange flavored caca.

I'm glad someone said it. There is nothing about Sunny D that makes it a special drink.

I don't buy that crap. My kids get real fruit juice. LOL luckily mine don't even like Sunny D tho.

 

[Zorak]

Ok yall, seriously, this kid is SOMETHING ELSE!! Ive tried to be nice, and its gotten to the point where im cussing at him! what he's been doing, i expect from an ill mannered/still learning toddler to maybe 5 yr old, NOT a 7 yr old!

1st strike......
he walks over to play with my son. ok, thats fine. my son comes in later and asks if they could have some of his Sunny D. i tell him no, because his Sunny D is for dinner time. if he's thirsty he can drink water and the boy can go home and get a drink. he gets a drink of water, puts it in the fridge and goes back outside. about a minute later, in walks the little boy and he says "why cant i have a drink?" (oh hell no!) i say "cause those drinks are for MY son for dinner time" he says "but im really really really thirsty" (im very annoyed at this point) i say "well then you can go home and get something to drink" he says "but why cant i have one of his!?" (OMG SERIOUSLY!?) i dropped what i was doing and said in a very stern voice "LOOK! you just need to go outside and go home! NOW!"

2nd strike......
doorbell rings about 10 this morning and its him. i say "he cant come outside to play because he is about to eat breakfast, brush his teeth, get dressed and will be leaving" and i go to close the door. the little shit puts his foot in the way and pushes the door back open and says "but why!?" i said "he's about to leave he cant come play!" he said "can he play later?" i said "no, he's LEAVING and wont be back today" he said with a very 'i need to know' attitude "well, where's he going?" i said "look, he's leaving so you need to go home" and closed the door pushing him back outside

3rd strike.......
im sitting here, eating, playing on the computer and enjoying my alone time. doorbell rings and before i could get out of the chair, THE DOOR OPENS AND IN WALKS THE LITTLE HEATHEN!! i said "LOOK, I TOLD YOU EARLIER MY SON WAS LEAVING AND WASNT GOING TO BE BACK! SO GO HOME!" and i push him outside and close the door....TRY to close the door. he PUSHED IT OPEN and said "but where'd he go!?" i said "he's staying with my family for a few days to spend time with them! no GO HOME!" and he says "but you're his family" i said "YEAH NO SHIT!! NOW GET YOUR ASS HOME AND DONT COME BACK!!" and slammed the door and locked it!!


im seriously not making this shit up!! i mean, WTF!?!? i DARE that boy to test me one more time!! that last time with him just walking on in my house like he owned the place just really gave me the red ass!!

and he lives with his great grandmaw. thats sad enough, but it doesnt give him the right to do what he's doing! and im not one to confront an elderly person, but i'll sure as hell will put a rude ass little shit in their place!!

I haven't read all the thread, just some of it - then it got really pathetic between some members and I lost the will to read it much further.

Anyway, I'm not sure I would have handled the situation like you did. Seems you lost your temper a little easy.

 

[Alien Allen]

Boy you guys are harsh

Yeah it is just a kid but come on he is a brat and came uninvited

I could see getting frustrated

Glad some of you are so perfect and would be able to handle it better than I would

 

[Tim]

Boy you guys are harsh

Yeah it is just a kid but come on he is a brat and came uninvited

I could see getting frustrated

Glad some of you are so perfect and would be able to handle it better than I would

It's funny you say this...

Because I was just thinking about that "Peeping tom" thread and some of the same people in here saying it's just a boy, were the same ones that thought a child who looked into a window was going to turn into a child molester. :24:

I guess it all depends on where you are on the pecking order on this site as to who agrees with you

 

[Alien Allen]

I like my privacy and don't like anybody invading my space regardless of the age

And even a 7 year old should understand by that age the concept of no

Plus I am not into Hillary Clintons village concept. I would not be going over to grannies to do kumbayah to figure out what is the little shits problem. I would be going there to tell her to keep the friggin brat off my property and away from my son.

 

[Dana]

Boy you guys are harsh

Yeah it is just a kid but come on he is a brat and came uninvited

I could see getting frustrated

Glad some of you are so perfect and would be able to handle it better than I would

I didn't always show up at a friends house invited when I was a kid. :dunno I just wandered over and if they couldn't come out or weren't home I left. Just because the kids inquisitive doesn't make him a brat but none of us were there so none of us know what really went on, or how snotty and bitchy KLD was. All we have to go on is the thread and it really doesn't paint her in a good light.




I see why they call you prick now :24:

 

[Pumpkin]

I like my privacy and don't like anybody invading my space regardless of the age

And even a 7 year old should understand by that age the concept of no

Plus I am not into Hillary Clintons village concept. I would not be going over to grannies to do kumbayah to figure out what is the little shits problem. I would be going there to tell her to keep the friggin brat off my property and away from my son.

Why should he be kept away from her son? If they had fun playing together it cant be anything other than great! I grew up running in and out of my neighbours homes playing with their kids and it was the best childhood ever! We are all still friends to this day.

Yes this child obviously needs to learn some boundaries and what the rules are when he is in other peoples homes but you are talking as though he is some nasty little boy who is only out to make trouble and he is only 7 years old for christs sake!

 

[KLD1019]

Originally Posted by KLD1019
[FONT=&quot]Originally Posted by Francis[/FONT]
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Then why is he coming.. Even my ADD / ODD daughter didn't go over to houses she was not wanted or invited to. This makes no sense.. Think about it, please .. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]i dont know. but he does. and yesterday when i told him (nicely) that he needed to go home, all he did was stand there and ask why. im not playing that toddler game. i already went through it when my son was 4 and since he was my son, i explained things to him. but this 7 yr old is NOT my son and he's 7. too old for that 'game' i simply said "this is my house and my rules, and im asking you to go home" know what i got next? "but why?" and i just walked inside

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[FONT=&quot]I understood that and I guess at that time you could not do much. You can only say "it is not for now sorry you will need to have water like my little Johnny"" . If I am not mistake you did say he was playing with your son even if you didn't invite him over and these are your words not mine “[/FONT]he walks over to play with my son. ok, thats fine.” [FONT=&quot]..

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]yes, i found it fine when i saw it. (i was inside prepping dinner) the neighbor kids are always playing outside and its fine. he was a new kid in the neighborhood so why not?

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[FONT=&quot]Like I said in my past post he is obviously a handful for GrandMa.. You either talk to her and see how you can assist her or get her help or be the meany and call Child Services if you think he is in danger. Also what you tell your 5 year old son and how he expresses that to his 7 year old friend are two different things. His "friend" as pushy as he is with you may be as pushy with your son and inviting himself over and feeling fine with that. Don't take anything for granted and try to talk to your son but he may feel this is too much for him right now and may be afraid..So please don't push him.. [/FONT]
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[/FONT]i plan on talking to her. hasnt been done yet because the past few days have been busy ones for us. that talk wont happen till next week because we left this morning and will be gone till sunday

[FONT=&quot]Again why is a 7 year old being left unattended.. Does GandMa expect you to raise the child for her, does she know where he is and why is he on your property ?

[/FONT]no clue. i hope she doesnt. she came over the 1st time (before the incident) and we introduced ourselves. she even said she didnt know where he was and saw us sitting outside and came over to introduce herself. they had just moved into their rent house but have always lived here, just somewhere else.

i did notice at one point (the night when my son was gone and all us adults were outside) she called him home and he never came. she walked to get him and tell him to go home, he went, but minutes later he was back outside. and this was about 8 or 9pm.

i dont know the specifics of the situation (and believe me i wanted to ask, but thought it to be none of my business) but ive been a babysitter since i was 13 and have been around plenty of children of different ages (my nieces and nephew included) and NONE of them were as problematic as this one! and i'll say it again that ive only seen this boys actions from toddler aged kids! NOT 7 yr olds!! Im very good with children and im a damn good parent i might not be as perfect as what most of yall are implying you are (those parental slams are uncalled for BTW. dont even get those kind of things on my mommy debate board) but im still a good parent and i wouldnt dream of living in yalls perfect world on yalls high horses!

Thanks again Francis for the feedback :thumbup

 

[KLD1019]

I didn't always show up at a friends house invited when I was a kid. :dunno I just wandered over and if they couldn't come out or weren't home I left. Just because the kids inquisitive doesn't make him a brat but none of us were there so none of us know what really went on, or how snotty and bitchy KLD was. All we have to go on is the thread and it really doesn't paint her in a good light.




I see why they call you prick now :24:

i didnt get snotty or bitchy till the last incident when he rang the doorbell and just walked right on in like he was invited you just DONT do that! you push me, i'll push right back. thats whats wrong with kids these days, they're allowed to walk all over adults/parents/authority without consequences



oh and i had fun as a child running in and out of neighborhood friends houses. BUT that was after knowing them for more than 5 minutes, KNOWING i was invited in, KNOWING the family and them knowing my family. AND that was before things are the way they are now days!

 

[Francis]

Well as usual we are only getting one side of the story so I personally am only giving "suggestions" on how to handle it from that perspective and trying not to put blame on any one.

Instead of getting into personal attacks why not try to give helpful advice..

 

[KLD1019]

Well as usual we are only getting one side of the story so I personally am only giving "suggestions" on how to handle it from that perspective and trying not to put blame on any one.

Instead of getting into personal attacks why not try to give helpful advice..

yes and i appreciate the suggestions! like i said, ive delt with many kids being a baby sitter, but none like this one at this age! that kind of behavior ive only seen in toddlers who are learning and its easier to deal with. in a kid as old as 7, they ARE old enough to know better and to understand the word "no", and to be dealing with one that clearly doesnt, is nerve racking!


i dont remember who made the statement of remembering being that age and it hurting to be told no.....yes i remember. i also remember i only had to be told "no" ONCE and knew better than to ask again. Kids these days arent being told "no" enough or at all and, like i said, are allowed to walk all over parents/adults/authority and i DO.NOT put up with it, and will not give into it!