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Xeno

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All this over some Sunny D and some Water.

(...someone should install a water fountain on the block...)
 
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All this over some Sunny D and some Water.

(...someone should install a water fountain on the block...)

I think it's more about the lack of manners displayed by the neighbor kid than it is beverages. :dunno
 

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I think it's more about the lack of manners displayed by the neighbor kid than it is beverages. :dunno

Hey, I agree that the kid shouldn't have stuck his foot in the doorway. A bit out of the norm in my opinion. I'm just surprised on how this all got started to be quite honest. I would have given him some Sunny D or some water to begin with, but that's me. Not everyone has to share I guess. Still, that kid with his foot in the door is one step from ending up in jail in the near future if he continues down that path.
 

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Ok yall, seriously, this kid is SOMETHING ELSE!! Ive tried to be nice, and its gotten to the point where im cussing at him! what he's been doing, i expect from an ill mannered/still learning toddler to maybe 5 yr old, NOT a 7 yr old!

Actually sounds like many kids that age.. I guess you see all types and I have..


1st strike......
he walks over to play with my son. ok, thats fine. my son comes in later and asks if they could have some of his Sunny D. i tell him no, because his Sunny D is for dinner time. if he's thirsty he can drink water and the boy can go home and get a drink. he gets a drink of water, puts it in the fridge and goes back outside. about a minute later, in walks the little boy and he says "why cant i have a drink?" (oh hell no!) i say "cause those drinks are for MY son for dinner time" he says "but im really really really thirsty" (im very annoyed at this point) i say "well then you can go home and get something to drink" he says "but why cant i have one of his!?" (OMG SERIOUSLY!?) i dropped what i was doing and said in a very stern voice "LOOK! you just need to go outside and go home! NOW!"

I always started by teaching my kids that when they bring their friends home they get water.. If they should by chance offer juice or pop it was not bought again for them for a loooooooong time. My daughter made that mistake my son has not yet.

I would, myself , never refuse to give a child water. Even if it was one I didn't like.. Kids are kids and you cannot ask them to go get water at home if its for drinking just like you cannot ask them to go to the bathroom at that age when they need to as these are necessities.. Water balloon filling yes, drinking no..

2nd strike......
doorbell rings about 10 this morning and its him. i say "he cant come outside to play because he is about to eat breakfast, brush his teeth, get dressed and will be leaving" and i go to close the door. the little shit puts his foot in the way and pushes the door back open and says "but why!?" i said "he's about to leave he cant come play!" he said "can he play later?" i said "no, he's LEAVING and wont be back today" he said with a very 'i need to know' attitude "well, where's he going?" i said "look, he's leaving so you need to go home" and closed the door pushing him back outside

I understand your frustration but this child obviously has to be shown the proper way and being firm but proper and consistent with him will earn you much more of his respect then losing your cool.

3rd strike.......
im sitting here, eating, playing on the computer and enjoying my alone time. doorbell rings and before i could get out of the chair, THE DOOR OPENS AND IN WALKS THE LITTLE HEATHEN!! i said "LOOK, I TOLD YOU EARLIER MY SON WAS LEAVING AND WASNT GOING TO BE BACK! SO GO HOME!" and i push him outside and close the door....TRY to close the door. he PUSHED IT OPEN and said "but where'd he go!?" i said "he's staying with my family for a few days to spend time with them! no GO HOME!" and he says "but you're his family" i said "YEAH NO SHIT!! NOW GET YOUR ASS HOME AND DONT COME BACK!!" and slammed the door and locked it!!

Again the same as above.. Your describing a identical pattern of behaviour in the child that needs correcting in a proper and understanding way..

It seems the more he gets to you the more he keeps pushing.. See below for further opinion from me..

im seriously not making this shit up!! i mean, WTF!?!? i DARE that boy to test me one more time!! that last time with him just walking on in my house like he owned the place just really gave me the red ass!!

and he lives with his great grandmaw. thats sad enough, but it doesnt give him the right to do what he's doing! and im not one to confront an elderly person, but i'll sure as hell will put a rude ass little shit in their place!!

If Grandma is his only role model he is probably facing no boundaries and looking for some, hence is adopting you as his mother.. He may even have ADD type ( note type ) tendencies that no one is paying attention to. The child may be craving attention and even your anger is satisfying that need..

So that you don't need to become his newly adoptive parent I strongly suggest you start to make sure you stay on top of your son who may be encouraging his behaviour as his friend.

Stay firm with rules you have at home but have them making common sense. You want the child to know he is safe but that your home is not his..

That would be my suggestion and how I have dealt with it in the past with success..
 

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I guess that's a no on the Sunny D huh?

*cries*

:D

Not for my kids.. In fact they never even get pure juice.. Because of allergies I always have to check labels and buy pure as possible.. Then I mix it 50% with water..

And what is good for the kids is good for me.. Lead by example.. ;)
 

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Actually sounds like many kids that age.. I guess you see all types and I have..




I always started by teaching my kids that when they bring their friends home they get water.. If they should by chance offer juice or pop it was not bought again for them for a loooooooong time. My daughter made that mistake my son has not yet.

understandable, but this boy wasnt invited over and surely wasnt invited in the house

I would, myself , never refuse to give a child water. Even if it was one I didn't like.. Kids are kids and you cannot ask them to go get water at home if its for drinking just like you cannot ask them to go to the bathroom at that age when they need to as these are necessities.. Water balloon filling yes, drinking no..

he was asking for the juice. i told the kid that my son didnt even get the juice and he kept pushing that HE (the kid) should

I understand your frustration but this child obviously has to be shown the proper way and being firm but proper and consistent with him will earn you much more of his respect then losing your cool.



Again the same as above.. Your describing a identical pattern of behaviour in the child that needs correcting in a proper and understanding way..

It seems the more he gets to you the more he keeps pushing.. See below for further opinion from me..



If Grandma is his only role model he is probably facing no boundaries and looking for some, hence is adopting you as his mother.. He may even have ADD type ( note type ) tendencies that no one is paying attention to. The child may be craving attention and even your anger is satisfying that need..

So that you don't need to become his newly adoptive parent I strongly suggest you start to make sure you stay on top of your son who may be encouraging his behaviour as his friend.

Stay firm with rules you have at home but have them making common sense. You want the child to know he is safe but that your home is not his..

That would be my suggestion and how I have dealt with it in the past with success..

Thank you for the feedback :thumbup ive been telling my son to not play with him. he was gone all day yesterday so that was no problem BUT the little boy took it upon himself to STAY AT OUR HOUSE even with my son not there. my husband had just got home from the lake after 3 days we wanted some time to ourselves but the boy was THERE ignoring our asking (politely i'll add) for him to go home and STAY home. he didnt/wouldnt. we went inside and the boy just sat in our garage and played in our yard. Then the neighbors came home and we were gathering around talking and drinking, hanging out like usual. ALL adults, but yet this little boy hung around despite being told more than once by more than one person that he needed to go home and stay home. he would go home, but would ride his bike right back over. we ignored him, he'd try to but in our conversations by stepping inbetween everyone and getting right up on us. was told to leave. one neighbor even tried to scare him. well that just perked his curiosity and made him stay longer and ask more questions

we get home today, not 5 minutes of us being home.....here he comes! my husband tells him to go home, me and our son are inside putting stuff up and im fixing him something to eat, my husband walks over to neighbors house, and that little boy is just playing in our yard/driveway

the bolded is mine :)
 

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All this effort in complaining and yet I haven't heard that anyone has gone and talked to this childs grandma.
 

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I have to agree with AnitaBeer on this one.

(...seems like everyone is avoiding the grandma...)

Perhaps she is the "key" to solving these bizarre turn of events.
 

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If the kid sent your son in to ask for a drink of Sunny D (you said your son knows that's his "dinner time" drink so it's basically off-limits), then obviously your son told the kid he had some Sunny D in the house. The way kids think (yours included) your son quite possibly thought that by the other kid asking for it, you'd say yes.

Either way... when you offered your son water, the proper thing would have been to offer his visitor water as well.


Xeno, I love your input on this forum, but man, your signature is killin' me. No offense intended... I'm just sayin'...
 

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If the kid sent your son in to ask for a drink of Sunny D (you said your son knows that's his "dinner time" drink so it's basically off-limits), then obviously your son told the kid he had some Sunny D in the house. The way kids think (yours included) your son quite possibly thought that by the other kid asking for it, you'd say yes.

Either way... when you offered your son water, the proper thing would have been to offer his visitor water as well.


Xeno, I love your input on this forum, but man, your signature is killin' me. No offense intended... I'm just sayin'...

:nod::nod::nod:

That and his formatting

Reminds me of Gigantic Squirrel at another site
 

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gimme!!:D


I've had kids like this MANY times wanting to hang out with my son. I tell them the first time they step over boundaries, what MY boundaries are for MY household. When they don't listen i ask them for their parents phone number and speak to the adult. I don't agree with the child walking into you house and sticking his foot in the door, hes learned that bad behaviour from an adult. I guess because of who i am, i'd be more willing to explain to the child what i expected from them and if that didn't work go to the adult who is teaching them these ill manners and explaining to them what you expect.

What is sad about all this, is that this 7 year old little boy has begone life the wrong way and has learned already the bad behaviors that lead to trouble. Its a shame and one can only feel sad for such a little person. Another one of the lost souls.:(
 

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[FONT=&quot]Originally Posted by Francis[/FONT]
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understandable, but this boy wasnt invited over and surely wasnt invited in the house

Then why is he coming.. Even my ADD / ODD daughter didn't go over to houses she was not wanted or invited to. This makes no sense.. Think about it, please :(..

he was asking for the juice. i told the kid that my son didnt even get the juice and he kept pushing that HE (the kid) should

I understood that and I guess at that time you could not do much. You can only say "it is not for now sorry you will need to have water like my little Johnny"" . If I am not mistake you did say he was playing with your son even if you didn't invite him over and these are your words not mine “[/FONT]
he walks over to play with my son. ok, thats fine.[FONT=&quot]..

Thank you for the feedback [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]ive been telling my son to not play with him. he was gone all day yesterday so that was no problem BUT the little boy took it upon himself to STAY AT OUR HOUSE even with my son not there. my husband had just got home from the lake after 3 days we wanted some time to ourselves but the boy was THERE ignoring our asking (politely i'll add) for him to go home and STAY home. he didnt/wouldnt. we went inside and the boy just sat in our garage and played in our yard. Then the neighbors came home and we were gathering around talking and drinking, hanging out like usual. ALL adults, but yet this little boy hung around despite being told more than once by more than one person that he needed to go home and stay home. he would go home, but would ride his bike right back over. we ignored him, he'd try to but in our conversations by stepping inbetween everyone and getting right up on us. was told to leave. one neighbor even tried to scare him. well that just perked his curiosity and made him stay longer and ask more questions[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

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[FONT=&quot]Like I said in my past post he is obviously a handful for GrandMa.. You either talk to her and see how you can assist her or get her help or be the meany and call Child Services if you think he is in danger. Also what you tell your 5 year old son and how he expresses that to his 7 year old friend are two different things. His "friend" as pushy as he is with you may be as pushy with your son and inviting himself over and feeling fine with that. Don't take anything for granted and try to talk to your son but he may feel this is too much for him right now and may be afraid..So please don't push him.. [/FONT]
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we get home today, not 5 minutes of us being home.....here he comes! my husband tells him to go home, me and our son are inside putting stuff up and im fixing him something to eat, my husband walks over to neighbors house, and that little boy is just playing in our yard/driveway[/FONT]

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Again why is a 7 year old being left unattended.. Does GandMa expect you to raise the child for her, does she know where he is and why is he on your property ?

the bolded is mine [/FONT]

My answers are in red if you have no figured it out.. I hope this helps as I can only speak from experience..
 

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gimme!!:D


I've had kids like this MANY times wanting to hang out with my son. I tell them the first time they step over boundaries, what MY boundaries are for MY household. When they don't listen i ask them for their parents phone number and speak to the adult. I don't agree with the child walking into you house and sticking his foot in the door, hes learned that bad behaviour from an adult. I guess because of who i am, i'd be more willing to explain to the child what i expected from them and if that didn't work go to the adult who is teaching them these ill manners and explaining to them what you expect.

What is sad about all this, is that this 7 year old little boy has begone life the wrong way and has learned already the bad behaviors that lead to trouble. Its a shame and one can only feel sad for such a little person. Another one of the lost souls.:(

Spot on bitch :nod:

How ya been stranger:)
 
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