Hey Atheists! Why?

[333halfabeast]

these metaphors are getting silly.


Conformity: Mostly bad


Individuality (not individualism): good

I agree.

you knew i was pentecostal? How did i approach? Now you guys have forced me to draw the big guns.

LOL. The Big God guns huh? for 2000 years people have tried, even Armies, and the faithless are still faithless and the opposing faiths still oppose Christianity. I don't think that forcing your beliefs on anyone encourages them to join. And that is exactly how I know you were either Baptist, Pentecostal, or Evangelical, for some reason those branches of Christianity teach that you either walk our way or burn in hell and that contact with the flesh is sin. Be fruitful and mulitply. It is silly to think God wants us to be as repressed as some religions want us.

 

[skyblue]

I agree.

LOL. The Big God guns huh? for 2000 years people have tried, even Armies, and the faithless are still faithless and the opposing faiths still oppose Christianity. I don't think that forcing your beliefs on anyone encourages them to join. And that is exactly how I know you were either Baptist, Pentecostal, or Evangelical, for some reason those branches of Christianity teach that you either walk our way or burn in hell and that contact with the flesh is sin. Be fruitful and mulitply. It is silly to think God wants us to be as repressed as some religions want us.

quite right......if indeed god did create us he would have wanted us to multiply.....thats why he gave us the equipment to do so

 

[StanJon]

There is many evidence that Jesus exist, the word of the bible is true on so fort. The wise king Solomon said, " the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge and wisdom." But the greatest evidence is in the person and work of the Lord Jesus himself.

We have claims that Jesus made in the bible about future effects, and how his ministry would have on the world.
One evidence of the bible comes from Matt. 24:35 Jesus said, "heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." If you look around you will see that many of the worlds population still uses the bible, and His words is still alive today. Can a mere man make such predictions?

Jesus also spoke about how he would be crucified for mankind in Matt. 20:18,19. If he was not devine, he could not have made these claims.

And one interesting claim he made is that "he is the light of the world, and anyone who follow him would not walk in darkness but have the light of life." Just like how the sun provides physical light for our world as well as all the complex of radiant energies that sustain life in the world. Here Jesus compares himself to the sun, saying that He will be the world's spiritual light just as the sun is its physical light. This claim could not be made by a normal person such as you na me. This has proven true for some 2000 years. Jesus has been the spiritual light of the world. More great art and literature have been inspired by him, and more beautiful music has been written about him. More hospitals, more colleges, more charitable organizations, more missionary outreaches to the poor in many nations have been established by His followers in His name than any other. People observe Christmas and Easter all over the world becase of him? even those wo do not believe in him. And most nations fix their calender around his birth.

Furthur more, there are millions of people who gladly testitfy that He is indeed the light of their personal worlds. Those who follow him have not walk in darkness but have had the light of life.

this is where i have to end it for today. unfortuantely i have to go now.
To be continued. thanks to my teacherl Mr. Morris for helping me completing my faith in Jesus.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

There is many evidence that Jesus exist, the word of the bible is true on so fort. The wise king Solomon said, " the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge and wisdom." But the greatest evidence is in the person and work of the Lord Jesus himself.

We have claims that Jesus made in the bible about future effects, and how his ministry would have on the world.
One evidence of the bible comes from Matt. 24:35 Jesus said, "heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." If you look around you will see that many of the worlds population still uses the bible, and His words is still alive today. Can a mere man make such predictions?

Jesus also spoke about how he would be crucified for mankind in Matt. 20:18,19. If he was not devine, he could not have made these claims.

And one interesting claim he made is that "he is the light of the world, and anyone who follow him would not walk in darkness but have the light of life." Just like how the sun provides physical light for our world as well as all the complex of radiant energies that sustain life in the world. Here Jesus compares himself to the sun, saying that He will be the world's spiritual light just as the sun is its physical light. This claim could not be made by a normal person such as you na me. This has proven true for some 2000 years. Jesus has been the spiritual light of the world. More great art and literature have been inspired by him, and more beautiful music has been written about him. More hospitals, more colleges, more charitable organizations, more missionary outreaches to the poor in many nations have been established by His followers in His name than any other. People observe Christmas and Easter all over the world becase of him? even those wo do not believe in him. And most nations fix their calender around his birth.

Furthur more, there are millions of people who gladly testitfy that He is indeed the light of their personal worlds. Those who follow him have not walk in darkness but have had the light of life.

this is where i have to end it for today. unfortuantely i have to go now.
To be continued. thanks to my teacherl Mr. Morris for helping me completing my faith in Jesus.

*reads first sentence* :nuts:

yep, I'm done here

 

[StanJon]

*reads first sentence* :nuts:

yep, I'm done here

what are you trying to say?

 

[StanJon]

I agree.

LOL. The Big God guns huh? for 2000 years people have tried, even Armies, and the faithless are still faithless and the opposing faiths still oppose Christianity. I don't think that forcing your beliefs on anyone encourages them to join. And that is exactly how I know you were either Baptist, Pentecostal, or Evangelical, for some reason those branches of Christianity teach that you either walk our way or burn in hell and that contact with the flesh is sin. Be fruitful and mulitply. It is silly to think God wants us to be as repressed as some religions want us.

I am not trying to force on my religion to anyone as those opposing is not doing the same. I am just trying to show them that Jesus exist.

You can have as many children you want and sex through marriage, ye fornicators..lol

 

[333halfabeast]

I am not trying to force on my religion to anyone as those opposing is not doing the same. I am just trying to show them that Jesus exist.

You can have as many children you want and sex through marriage, ye fornicators..lol

So aside from the marriages in the bible can you cite where it says that you "have" to marry to have sex?

 

[All Else Failed]

There is many evidence that Jesus exist, the word of the bible is true on so fort. The wise king Solomon said, " the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge and wisdom." But the greatest evidence is in the person and work of the Lord Jesus himself.

We have claims that Jesus made in the bible about future effects, and how his ministry would have on the world.
One evidence of the bible comes from Matt. 24:35 Jesus said, "heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." If you look around you will see that many of the worlds population still uses the bible, and His words is still alive today. Can a mere man make such predictions?

Jesus also spoke about how he would be crucified for mankind in Matt. 20:18,19. If he was not devine, he could not have made these claims.

And one interesting claim he made is that "he is the light of the world, and anyone who follow him would not walk in darkness but have the light of life." Just like how the sun provides physical light for our world as well as all the complex of radiant energies that sustain life in the world. Here Jesus compares himself to the sun, saying that He will be the world's spiritual light just as the sun is its physical light. This claim could not be made by a normal person such as you na me. This has proven true for some 2000 years. Jesus has been the spiritual light of the world. More great art and literature have been inspired by him, and more beautiful music has been written about him. More hospitals, more colleges, more charitable organizations, more missionary outreaches to the poor in many nations have been established by His followers in His name than any other. People observe Christmas and Easter all over the world becase of him? even those wo do not believe in him. And most nations fix their calender around his birth.

Furthur more, there are millions of people who gladly testitfy that He is indeed the light of their personal worlds. Those who follow him have not walk in darkness but have had the light of life.

this is where i have to end it for today. unfortuantely i have to go now.
To be continued. thanks to my teacherl Mr. Morris for helping me completing my faith in Jesus.

as i expected, no real scientific proof. Just scripture quotations and eluding to esoteric themes. All of this is not empirical at all, and totally subjective. You said that science proves Jesus existed, so I'm going to wait and see how you used the scientific method to back up your claim.

 

[Anie]

Sex before marriage is a choice, were Adam and Eve married before God even said be fruitful and multiply?

 

[StanJon]

So aside from the marriages in the bible can you cite where it says that you "have" to marry to have sex?

I don't remember exactly where it is in the bible but the apostle Paul spoke out against it. I will check and get back.

 

[StanJon]

So aside from the marriages in the bible can you cite where it says that you "have" to marry to have sex?

read 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 & 1 Corinthians 7:1-2 am sure you have a bible.

 

[333halfabeast]

read 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 & 1 Corinthians 7:1-2 am sure you have a bible.

1 Corinthians 6:18-20: Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

Again there is no definition of marriage there, or of what the sexual sin consists of. Especially in reference to pre-marriage.

1 Corinthians 7:1-2: Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry. But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.

Okay, again this does not pertain specifically to pre-marital sex, only that you should marry during your life.

 

[StanJon]

as i expected, no real scientific proof. Just scripture quotations and eluding to esoteric themes. All of this is not empirical at all, and totally subjective. You said that science proves Jesus existed, so I'm going to wait and see how you used the scientific method to back up your claim.

Why is the bible not considered a source of evidence that Jesus existed Failed? If i told you that some. um... don't remember what they call themselves found the head board that was on the cross of Jesus crucifixion, would that be scientific enough?

 

[333halfabeast]

Why is the bible not considered a source of evidence that Jesus existed Failed? If i told you that some. um... don't remember what they call themselves found the head board that was on the cross of Jesus crucifixion, would that be scientific enough?

In the same way that Shakespeare is not Empirical proof of the existence of the Capulets. Or the Illiad in the existence of a Cyclops.

 

[StanJon]

Well if i can't convince you that Jesus exist by the prophesies that he said will happen, then i am sorry for you guys. If what i wrote is not proof enough, then i won't even bother to post anymore if i can't at least convince one person. The bible is authentic, it is not some fairytale book like Peter Pan.

Don't reply because i am done with this argument. You guys are so closed mined.

If you spend more time searching for facts and less time trying to disprove then maybe you will get your answer(s).

 

[Alien Allen]

Well if i can't convince you that Jesus exist by the prophesies that he said will happen, then i am sorry for you guys. If what i wrote is not proof enough, then i won't even bother to post anymore if i can't at least convince one person. The bible is authentic, it is not some fairytale book like Peter Pan.

Don't reply because i am done with this argument. You guys are so closed mined.

If you spend more time searching for facts and less time trying to disprove then maybe you will get your answer(s).

So WE are close minded eh :24::24:

Keep it up kid, You are on a roll

 

[333halfabeast]

Well if i can't convince you that Jesus exist by the prophesies that he said will happen, then i am sorry for you guys. If what i wrote is not proof enough, then i won't even bother to post anymore if i can't at least convince one person. The bible is authentic, it is not some fairytale book like Peter Pan.

Don't reply because i am done with this argument. You guys are so closed mined.

If you spend more time searching for facts and less time trying to disprove then maybe you will get your answer(s).

There is no burden of proof in faith, hence why it is called faith. This is the problem with both atheists and the faithful. They try to argue factual validity when it is an emotional and spiritual thing and therefore is not based in fact.

 

[All Else Failed]

Sex before marriage is a choice, were Adam and Eve married before God even said be fruitful and multiply?

well technically god tried to hook Adam up with various animals before Eve. I'm not joking.

 

[All Else Failed]

Why is the bible not considered a source of evidence that Jesus existed Failed? If i told you that some. um... don't remember what they call themselves found the head board that was on the cross of Jesus crucifixion, would that be scientific enough?

Because anyone could have written it and lied? How is that not obvious? If I took the Lord of the Rings, tore out all the pages where the publishing company and author are printed, and bury it in the ground, and people find it 2,000 years later and say that it is proof that Bilbo Baggins existed how would you view that as evidence? You wouldn't, because it doesn't prove anything besides that somoene wrote about some guy named Jesus. That doesn't prove that he existed.


Are you talking about the plaque that the Romans supposedly nailed on the cross that said INRI (Iesvs-Nazarenvs-Rex-Ivaeorvm)?

Well if i can't convince you that Jesus exist by the prophesies that he said will happen, then i am sorry for you guys. If what i wrote is not proof enough, then i won't even bother to post anymore if i can't at least convince one person. The bible is authentic, it is not some fairytale book like Peter Pan.

Don't reply because i am done with this argument. You guys are so closed mined.

If you spend more time searching for facts and less time trying to disprove then maybe you will get your answer(s).

No, you're just terrible at providing actual evidence. You said that you had scientific evidence. Do you even know what scientific evidence is? Scientific evidence is something that is testable. This just shows your poor understanding of science, like most fundamentalists.

 

[StanJon]

I know what scientific evidence is Failed, and maybe i cannot produce any. How can science prove someone that is divine? The bilble said that God is a spirit. If science cannot prove that ghost exist, which they do, how are they going to prove someone that is omnipotent?

Only simple mined people would go around saying, "where is the scientific evidence?" "prove this, prove that". That's weak. If i were to use your argument and ask you to disprove Jesus with science or ask you to use science and tell me how creation begins, you would be in the same spot i am now. But i don't use that because it is weak. I try to use different measures to prove my point.

If you look around us there is not one thing that was not made, created, produce, etc. nothing comes into existence without being created by someone or something. That my friend is call a cycle.

The only and most profound way to get factual evidence of Jesus is in the person who worship him and the work of the Lord Himself.

And as for the bible, it is without flaw my friend. all the words of the bible is the inspiration of God, and it is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.



I rest my case.