guess who got some fannie mae monies?

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

Actually it says... "Grampy doesn't have a chance"


:24:

Pretty much nailed that one:24:

 

[Wookiegirl]

both of them are dirty
the only politician who could have saved this country from where it's headed is Ron Paul
google what he said about our economy a few months back.
i'm sure it's there somewhere in yer legit news sources
:thumbdown

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

both of them are dirty
the only politician who could have saved this country from where it's headed is Ron Paul
google what he said about our economy a few months back.
i'm sure it's there somewhere in yer legit news sources
:thumbdown

I loved Ron Pauls knowledge of the government....It was the whole spaceship thing that mebbeh turned him a little strange:ninja


I mean come the fuck on, you don't get that far in your political career and start talking about spaceships and shit:mad

 

[dt3]

and why is it bogus?
why is my story bogus and yours isn't?
that makes me giggle.
keep trusting what your government tells you.
question nothing.
ok.

Most of the top Fannie executives were also Democrats each of whom worked closely with Democratic presidents and Barack Obama. Franklin Raines, Clinton White House budget director, ran Fannie Mae and pocketed $50 million. Jamie Gorelick was a Clinton Justice Department Official (famous for adding to our intelligence failures helping cause the attacks on 9/11) was paid $26 million. Jim Johnson, who most recently served on Obama’s VP search committee, was the CEO of Fannie Mae and has also made millions. These Clinton/Obama associates sat at the head of a failing financial agency all the while raking in millions and donating hundreds of thousands to top Democrats.

Don't forget that he's also an economic advisor to Obama :ninja

 

[Tim]

and why is it bogus?
why is my story bogus and yours isn't?
that makes me giggle.
keep trusting what your government tells you.
question nothing.
ok.

Most of the top Fannie executives were also Democrats each of whom worked closely with Democratic presidents and Barack Obama. Franklin Raines, Clinton White House budget director, ran Fannie Mae and pocketed $50 million. Jamie Gorelick was a Clinton Justice Department Official (famous for adding to our intelligence failures helping cause the attacks on 9/11) was paid $26 million. Jim Johnson, who most recently served on Obama’s VP search committee, was the CEO of Fannie Mae and has also made millions. These Clinton/Obama associates sat at the head of a failing financial agency all the while raking in millions and donating hundreds of thousands to top Democrats.

What are you talking about..?

My story? I'm not getting any information from any story. I was just pointing out that it wasn't Fannie Mae that gave Obama the money, it was employees from there. Yet in your OP you said it was the company that gave him donations. I just wanted to clear the record, and since ALL donations are a matter of public record, I just went to the public record and looked it up myself. It is a huge data base of all the presidential donations. Hell, I can look up Evan and see exactly how much he gave and to whom... It would also tell me the company he works for since he HAD to supply that when donating.

 

[Wookiegirl]

I loved Ron Pauls knowledge of the government....It was the whole spaceship thing that mebbeh turned him a little strange:ninja


I mean come the fuck on, you don't get that far in your political career and start talking about spaceships and shit:mad

yeah i'm with you on that.
but he knew government and he knew the way to go so that we won't end up exactly where we're headed.
minus the spaceships.

 

[Tim]

yeah i'm with you on that.
but he knew government and he knew the way to go so that we won't end up exactly where we're headed.
minus the spaceships.

I would have loved to see him get to the top. I am also a Ron Paul supporter.... It's a shame that our political system keeps out quality candidates.

 

[Wookiegirl]

no he didn't get it from the company
he got it from the CEO, etal.
another overpaid CEO for a scumbag organization
so no, i will agree with you that the money given to Mr. Obama did not come from Fannie Mae but from employees, CEO at the top of that LONG list.

and mccain isn't exactly innocent either.
his chief campaign advisor took a 30k monthly salary from Fannie Mae for 'consultating service'

 

[Wookiegirl]

I would have loved to see him get to the top. I am also a Ron Paul supporter.... It's a shame that our political system keeps out quality candidates.

well then i'll stop putting the voodoo on you now then.

he was too real for the powers that be. he got next to no time in the debates. i wish more people would have actually researched what he was about. i think then MAYBE the situation now with obama and mccain wouldn't be.

 

[Wookiegirl]

I loved Ron Pauls knowledge of the government....It was the whole spaceship thing that mebbeh turned him a little strange:ninja


I mean come the fuck on, you don't get that far in your political career and start talking about spaceships and shit:mad

the tinfoil wearing asshole in me wonders what happened to make him start talking about space ships....

i'm just sayin.....

 

[Minor Axis]

Well, there is a reason that these Fannie Mae officials donated to Democrats. It was because Democrats continued to stymie Republican efforts to fix these failing lending agencies. Democrats protected these rotten lending practices and the Fannie Mae executives knew who were the sugar daddies that needed greasing.

Dear girl where did you come up with this? This is pure anti-Demorcrat propaganda and it's how the Republicans operate.

Maybe you'd also like to talk about Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager and Fannie Mae ties.

 

[Wookiegirl]

Dear girl where did you come up with this? This is pure anti-Demorcrat propaganda and it's how the Republicans operate.

Maybe you'd also like to talk about Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager and Fannie Mae ties.

i know...i said that too somewhere....I think

 

[Wookiegirl]

no he didn't get it from the company
he got it from the CEO, etal.
another overpaid CEO for a scumbag organization
so no, i will agree with you that the money given to Mr. Obama did not come from Fannie Mae but from employees, CEO at the top of that LONG list.

and mccain isn't exactly innocent either.
his chief campaign advisor took a 30k monthly salary from Fannie Mae for 'consultating service'

there it is.
i may have got some of the details wrong but i'm aware that they both sucked fannie mae cock

 

[dt3]

Dear girl where did you come up with this? This is pure anti-Demorcrat propaganda and it's how the Republicans operate.

Maybe you'd also like to talk about Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager and Fannie Mae ties.

Or you could talk about Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines, both former Fannie CEO's involved with Obama's campaign. :dunno Which shows exactly why you can't blame just one party for the crap going on with our economy today.

 

[Wookiegirl]

Or you could talk about Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines, both former Fannie CEO's involved with Obama's campaign. :dunno

i think i did that too...
but i'll let you smarties do that
i'm going back to the pixies now
this stuff makes my head hurt

 

[Minor Axis]

there it is.
i may have got some of the details wrong but i'm aware that they both sucked fannie mae cock

Taking a donation, I'll leave that up to the individuals interpretation. It's just a mistake to lump Obama and McCain together as in they are both the same or they are both bad. Especially if it is an excuse to discount Obama and go with the status quo. They are very different people who have different priorities. I think they will produce very different outcomes as President. And as you know, it's my opinion that Obama would better serve the country at the present time of crisis.

 

[Wookiegirl]

Taking a donation, I'll leave that up to the individuals interpretation. It's just a mistake to lump Obama and McCain together as in they are both the same or they are both bad. Especially if it is an excuse to discount Obama and go with the status quo. They are very different people who have different priorities. I think they will produce very different outcomes as President. And as you know, it's my opinion that Obama would better serve the country at the present time of crisis.

you really think that?
is it his extensive foreign relations experience?
or do you just like the way he says change?

i live in Chicago. he's as dirty as all the other assholes in washington.

he's voted present on more important issues just so he can say he didn't vote for it. that's not leadership. that's someone afraid of getting called out on being wrong.

 

[BlackCherry]

Taking a donation, I'll leave that up to the individuals interpretation. It's just a mistake to lump Obama and McCain together as in they are both the same or they are both bad

And to further that point, it wasn't the campaign contributions that sank the econonomy or Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Most organizations that make campaign contributions make them to both camps because they want to make sure they kiss ass on both sides of the aisle...and even though you're looking at high figures each, they are a blip on the financial map of these organizations. So, to say "ooo lookie who got campaign contributions..." in reference to the sinking of the economy or to say it makes a candidate not viable is ridiculous. Now the fact that McCain was largely in favor of deregulating oversight for these financial firms, allowing them to have huge golden parachutes for their CEO's...now there you may have something to complain about.

Unfortunately, the average joe bag o' donuts isn't informed enough or can't be arsed enough (oh yeah, I said it) to do his research. Rather, they buy into party bullshit and propaganda because it's easier than actually finding the facts.

 

[dt3]

Now the fact that McCain was largely in favor of deregulating oversight for these financial firms, allowing them to have huge golden parachutes for their CEO's...now there you may have something to complain about.

Really? What about the time he co-sponsored a bill to create " an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency" in 2005? When he said:

"I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole."

Sounds to me like he saw this coming and tried to avoid it :dunno

 

[Minor Axis]

you really think that?
is it his extensive foreign relations experience?
or do you just like the way he says change?

i live in Chicago. he's as dirty as all the other assholes in washington.

he's voted present on more important issues just so he can say he didn't vote for it. that's not leadership. that's someone afraid of getting called out on being wrong.

By all indications McCain is a hothead and he's aligned himself with Republican policies I disagree with. Senator Deregulator became Senator Regulator last week. Big deal, so he knows how to reverse himself. And my impression of him is that he still thinks in Cold War terms instead of looking at the present day world.

Obama's message is more consistent and concise. As far as foreign policy, Bill Clinton had very little but he has talent with people (in more ways than one ) and with little foreign experience was very successful. Obama is smart, thoughtful, and a people person. I have confidence he has greater skills in foreign relations than McCain ever will. As far as I can tell, all those who bad mouth him have an agenda and it's called winning in politics.

If you feel like it please post some of the Chicago dirt from other than rabid partisan sources.