Government Repair

[robdawg1]

Ok, well as this has now been dragged down to name calling and posturing I think I will bid this conversation goodbye

 

[Accountable]

Ok, well as this has now been dragged down to name calling and posturing I think I will bid this conversation goodbye

But you're the only sane one here!

 

[Alien Allen]

ACC you will never get some to understand the slavery analogy

Not sure if I totally agree with it but I sure understand where you are coming from

It does seem that once you are drafted you have lost most of your liberties. You are then under control of the armed services and your liberty is not what it was until they release you from duty.

 

[robdawg1]

In all fairness that is true for those who volunteer for service as well. One then becomes the property of the US Military until your contract and subsequent post years of service expire.

 

[Accountable]

In all fairness that is true for those who volunteer for service as well. One then becomes the property of the US Military until your contract and subsequent post years of service expire.

Except for that one detail: they volunteer. That makes all the difference.

That's the difference between sex and rape, and between borrowing and stealing. I know y'all think I'm over the top. I don't. It's truly a matter of life & death to me. We have all been endowed by our creator with (among others) the right to life. The government should never be allowed to take that right from law-abiding citizens, whatever the reason.

 

[Minor Axis]

We must always weigh our individual rights against what is good for our society.

Originally I was happy when the draft was removed. It made no difference to me as I was going into the service to become an officer and gentleman. But the draft is the same as required National Service, which I also support which may not be in the Armed Forces. Using a systematic method, it's demanding that individuals do their part to help their country. If the loop holes are removed, it's a fair process. While I won't begrudge Accountable his description of it as slavery, I disagree.

However from our experience in Iraq and Afghanistan, those people in the Armed Forces, unless you know one, they are the invisible them, putting their lives on the line, coming back with limbs missing or brain damaged, regardless of the right or wrong of it. I would expect no less in that the Armed Forces are expected to carry out the orders of the President. However if the Armed Forces represented a wider demographic than primarily poor people, as a country we might think a little more about the validity of, what foreign adventures and goals we really want to kill off our sons and daughters to achieve. It would definitely have an impact if to achieve a military goal, we were going to sacrifice, or put in jeopardy the childrens' lives of those in positions of political/economic/society leadership around the country.