God sins a lot but is there no end to God’s greed?

[BornReady]

God didn't create Hell to punish sinners, Hell is merely the natural result of death.....God created a solution....we either accept His solution or deny it.....its our decision to make. So you see, people do not “go to hell” because of their religion, race, sexual orientation etc, they “go to hell” because that is the state they were born in, except they accept The Solution of a loving Father. And furthermore, God DOES try to rehabilitate.....it's just that some of us refuse to listen.

The state they were born in? I hope you don't think babies deserve to go to hell. Actually there's no reason to send anyone there. The traditional Christian hell is a barbaric idea that should be done away with. And from your post, I gather you don't believe in the traditional Christian hell. That's good. Although you did equate hell with our natural state. That is way too pessimistic. Life for me as an unbeliever is fun, exciting, precious... nothing like I imagine hell to be, not that I believe in hell. I think it's pretty clear where that idea came from.

Richard Carrier sums up very well why the traditional Christian hell is evil.

The good judge others by their character, not their beliefs, and punish deeds, not thoughts, and punish only to teach, not to torture.

 

[sexysadie]

The state they were born in? I hope you don't think babies deserve to go to hell. Actually there's no reason to send anyone there. The traditional Christian hell is a barbaric idea that should be done away with. And from your post, I gather you don't believe in the traditional Christian hell. That's good. Although you did equate hell with our natural state. That is way too pessimistic. Life for me as an unbeliever is fun, exciting, precious... nothing like I imagine hell to be, not that I believe in hell. I think it's pretty clear where that idea came from.

Richard Carrier sums up very well why the traditional Christian hell is evil.

God is not cruel doll, just the opposite. I've always believed that God watches over the babies.....they are precious to Him because they're still too young to be influenced by what goes on around them. Whether we like it or not, there IS a Hell.

Life for me is that way as well....I love life, I love my children, my grandchild, my family and friends....I laugh, I dance and I enjoy life to the fullest. I don't like to imagine Hell, who does....but as a reasonable adult, I know that bad things happen, even things we can't even begin to imagine. All I can say is that one day we'll know.........won't we?

 

[Maldoror]

God is not cruel doll, just the opposite. I've always believed that God watches over the babies.....they are precious to Him because they're still too young to be influenced by what goes on around them. Whether we like it or not, there IS a Hell.

Life for me is that way as well....I love life, I love my children, my grandchild, my family and friends....I laugh, I dance and I enjoy life to the fullest. I don't like to imagine Hell, who does....but as a reasonable adult, I know that bad things happen, even things we can't even begin to imagine. All I can say is that one day we'll know.........won't we?

11:4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt:
11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.

 

[sexysadie]

11:4 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt:
11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.

More copy/paste? You're getting soo good at that aren't you?

 

[Maldoror]

Seriously? That's your answer to the outrageous passages I quoted from the bible?

 

[sexysadie]

Seriously? That's your answer to the outrageous passages I quoted from the bible?

lmbo....apparently, you haven't read the bible. Please........don't waste my time.

 

[Maldoror]

-facepalm-

 

[Maldoror]

I was looking forward to the sophist nonsensical retort you'd come up with

 

[sexysadie]

Sorry to disappoint...lol

 

[Maldoror]

I understand, there are no words to defend the desert God's monstrosities.

 

[sexysadie]

Good try but not good enough.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Nothing wrong with copy and paste...at least someone knows how to find evidence in support of their assertions.

 

[Maldoror]

I realize from this dialogue with SS why I sometimes get rather aggressive when my primary aim is to rationally and calmly discuss a religious idea with a religious person.

religious person makes a claim
i quote a passage from the bible contradicting religious person's claim
religious person assigns negative judgment value to the act of quoting
i announce my disbelief
religious person makes an outrageous nonsensical remark about me being ignorant of something, which is the same thing I have proved being knowledgeable in.
etc.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

That's because some religious people don't know how to argue properly (argue as in debate, not bicker).

 

[BornReady]

God is not cruel doll, just the opposite... Whether we like it or not, there IS a Hell... I don't like to imagine Hell, who does....but as a reasonable adult, I know that bad things happen, even things we can't even begin to imagine.

Torturing anyone is cruel. If you do not think so then you have been warped by your religion. I hope I'm misunderstanding what you're saying because I don't want to think of you as someone who condones torture.

 

[sexysadie]

Torturing anyone is cruel. If you do not think so then you have been warped by your religion. I hope I'm misunderstanding what you're saying because I don't want to think of you as someone who condones torture.

God doesn't torture anybody doll. Apparently you are totally misunderstanding what I'm saying if you think for one minute that that's what I said. I'd ask you to research, but I'm afraid you wont find the answer you seek in a science book. Nuff said. Time for bed.

 

[Minor Axis]

God didn't create Hell to punish sinners, Hell is merely the natural result of death.....God created a solution....we either accept His solution or deny it.....its our decision to make. So you see, people do not “go to hell” because of their religion, race, sexual orientation etc, they “go to hell” because that is the state they were born in, except they accept The Solution of a loving Father. And furthermore, God DOES try to rehabilitate.....it's just that some of us refuse to listen.

The indoctrination is complete.

 

[BornReady]

God doesn't torture anybody doll.

What is hell then?

Apparently you are totally misunderstanding what I'm saying if you think for one minute that that's what I said.

I really hope so. Please clear this up for me.

 

[Greatest I am]

Torturing anyone is cruel. If you do not think so then you have been warped by your religion. I hope I'm misunderstanding what you're saying because I don't want to think of you as someone who condones torture.

S S is like this first woman. She will continue to support a church that insults both her sense of justice and her view of God.

Tradition is what holds her. Not God. She has no idea what her God is.

Regards
DL