God sins a lot but is there no end to God’s greed?

[skyblue]

God didn't create Hell to punish sinners, Hell is merely the natural result of death.....God created a solution....we either accept His solution or deny it.....its our decision to make. So you see, people do not “go to hell” because of their religion, race, sexual orientation etc, they “go to hell” because that is the state they were born in, except they accept The Solution of a loving Father. And furthermore, God DOES try to rehabilitate.....it's just that some of us refuse to listen.

what if earth is hell?.....and lets face it theres enough suffering to point to that on this planet.....and the afterlife is when you go to heaven

 

[mazHur]

what if earth is hell?.....and lets face it theres enough suffering to point to that on this planet.....and the afterlife is when you go to heaven

What IS the purpose of Life?? With adversity comes happiness! Only one has to bear it with Faith!

 

[mazHur]

Is any religion exempt from this statement or all they all guilty?

No religion is bad, it's followers make it so.

 

[sexysadie]

what if earth is hell?.....and lets face it theres enough suffering to point to that on this planet.....and the afterlife is when you go to heaven

Some actually believe that to be true....they believe that come judgement day, God will send for His children to come live with Him..... and the Devil will take over the world as we know it.....to be honest, I'm not so sure...... but it should be interesting one day to find out.

I wonder if that's just one persons answer to pain and suffering? I don't know, but I wish I did. Until then all I can do is trust in Him.

 

[Minor Axis]

No religion is bad, it's followers make it so.

Don't your words carry enough weight? Making them large and colorful adds nothing to the discussion. I partially agree with you although it's the followers who at some point created the religion. Now, I dare you to criticize any part of Islam or any of the Islamic leadership. No, I won't hold my breath. My point? I'm going to go out on a limb and I hope you prove me wrong. You feel more than free to criticize every religion out there except your own which you believe is perfect and flawless. Therefore only it is deserving.

 

[mazHur]

Don't your words carry enough weight? Making them large and colorful adds nothing to the discussion. I partially agree with you although it's the followers who at some point created the religion. Now, I dare you to criticize any part of Islam or any of the Islamic leadership. No, I won't hold my breath. My point? I'm going to go out on a limb and I hope you prove me wrong. You feel more than free to criticize every religion out there except your own which you believe is perfect and flawless. Therefore only it is deserving.

Now you're again on to accusations!! When did i talk ill about any other religion??? Just be in your mind! What is new that you would like to ask me about Muslims?? Be specific and explicit. didn't you claim that you know about Muslims more than me??? sounds you sounding like more loyal than the king!

 

[Minor Axis]

it is Men who altered religions (and the word of God) to suit their vested interests.

Is any religion exempt from this statement or all they all guilty?

Bible, Torah and Talmud are evidently modified.
Geeta has been too...
Ramayana as well.

The BOOK which has NOT undergone any change, whatsoever, for more than 1400 years is only the Quran!

So no change in the Quran means what regarding authenticity? Is it more authentic because it has not been changed or does the fact that all of these books have been written by man play into it at all? I predict your answer is going to be very predictable.

No religion is bad, it's followers make it so.

Don't your words carry enough weight? Making them large and colorful adds nothing to the discussion. I partially agree with you although it's the followers who at some point created the religion. Now, I dare you to criticize any part of Islam or any of the Islamic leadership. No, I won't hold my breath. My point? I'm going to go out on a limb and I hope you prove me wrong. You feel more than free to criticize every religion out there except your own which you believe is perfect and flawless. Therefore only it is deserving.

Now you're again on to accusations!! When did i talk ill about any other religion??? Just be in your mind! What is new that you would like to ask me about Muslims?? Be specific and explicit. didn't you claim that you know about Muslims more than me??? sounds you sounding like more loyal than the king!

What accusation exactly? I asked you to prove me wrong. I'd be happy if you did. You seem to be dancing around the flaws of religion. I'm wondering if you as a follower of Islam feel if Islam can justifiably be criticized?

 

[mazHur]

What accusation exactly? I asked you to prove me wrong. I'd be happy if you did. You seem to be dancing around the flaws of religion. I'm wondering if you as a follower of Islam feel if Islam can justifiably be criticized?

[You feel more than free to criticize every religion out there except your own which you believe is perfect and flawless. ]

what else would you call 'accusation''?? You uttered a blatant lie!

Bad, my system has gone a bit down and I can't do it faster!

There is NO room for negative criticism in Islam...one can research , investigate, expound, comment etc but without questioning the word of the Quran. I hope you get me now!!

 

[Minor Axis]

what else would you call 'accusation''?? You uttered a blatant lie!

Bad, my system has gone a bit down and I can't do it faster!

There is NO room for negative criticism in Islam...one can research , investigate, expound, comment etc but without questioning the word of the Quran. I hope you get me now!!

I do, I get you, the only religious criticisms I'm going to hear from you are going to be about religions other than Islam.

 

[Greatest I am]

God does NOT DEMAND that we love, honor, and obey him and repent for sinning against him. It's a choice.
It's called free will.

2 Nephi 2:27--Wherefore, men are free according to the flesh; and all
things are given them which are expedient unto man. And they are free
to choose liberty and eternal life, through the great Mediator of all
men, or to choose captivity and death, according to the captivity and
power of the devil; for he seeketh that all men might be miserable
like unto himself.

Your statement: Any that dare not give all that he greedily covets is punished quite severely. This shows the depth of his greed.

Cannot be farther then the truth because the truth is about love. He does not condemn or punish those who do not give to him. It's a choice. Stated in the above verse as well as the below verse.

1 John 3:16-19 — “This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth. This then is how we know that we belong to the truth, and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence ...”


A jealous God?
We do not read very far in the Bible before we hear God saying, “You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God” (Exodus 20:4-5)
The root idea in the Old Testament word jealous is to become intensely red. It seems to refer to the changing color of the face or the rising heat of the emotions which are associated with intense zeal or fervor over something dear to us. In fact, both the Old and New Testament words for jealousy are also translated “zeal.” Being jealous and being zealous are essentially the same thing in the Bible. God is zealous—eager about protecting what is precious to Him.

A free choice eh?

Let me see, heaven on one side if I choose to love honor and obey and basically sell my soul for the treats of heaven while my other choice is to burn and be tortured forever by a loving God.
Hmm. Hard choice.

Something is quite wrong with your silly notions of free will.
That is not free will at all. it is a threat.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

If God is God he doesn't sin.

Yet he repented for missing the mark in Noah's day.
Hence the new covenant.

Regards
DL

 

[mazHur]

I do, I get you, the only religious criticisms I'm going to hear from you are going to be about religions other than Islam.

No, never ,No!!-that is also forbidden ..........-to your utter disappointment. :24:

 

[Greatest I am]

what else would you call 'accusation''?? You uttered a blatant lie!

Bad, my system has gone a bit down and I can't do it faster!

There is NO room for negative criticism in Islam...one can research , investigate, expound, comment etc but without questioning the word of the Quran. I hope you get me now!!

I do. in other words, you are an idol worshiper.

""one can research , investigate, expound, comment etc ""

As long as one is not serious or can even think that Allah is an ass hole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo

Regards
DL

 

[Defiant Tuesday]

.God created a solution....we either accept His solution or deny it.....its our decision to make. So you see, people do not “go to hell” because of their religion, race, sexual orientation etc, they “go to hell” because that is the state they were born in, except they accept The Solution of a loving Father. And furthermore, God DOES try to rehabilitate.....it's just that some of us refuse to listen.

:thumbup :clap


I think I might have to love yah after that one

 

[mazHur]

I do. in other words, you are an idol worshiper.

""one can research , investigate, expound, comment etc ""

As long as one is not serious or can even think that Allah is an ass hole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo

Regards
DL

''better be an idol worshiper than a cat's whiskers'', goes the saying!!
Just mind your language or else I will report!

 

[Defiant Tuesday]

A free choice eh?

Let me see, heaven on one side if I choose to love honor and obey and basically sell my soul for the treats of heaven while my other choice is to burn and be tortured forever by a loving God.
Hmm. Hard choice.

Something is quite wrong with your silly notions of free will.
That is not free will at all. it is a threat.

Regards
DL

You know what? All I really have to say is HAHAHA...

 

[BornReady]

I do, I get you, the only religious criticisms I'm going to hear from you are going to be about religions other than Islam.

lol Unlike Maz, you won't have that problem with me. I criticize all religions equally.

 

[Greatest I am]

God didn't create Hell to punish sinners, Hell is merely the natural result of death.....God created a solution....we either accept His solution or deny it.....its our decision to make. So you see, people do not “go to hell” because of their religion, race, sexual orientation etc, they “go to hell” because that is the state they were born in, except they accept The Solution of a loving Father. And furthermore, God DOES try to rehabilitate.....it's just that some of us refuse to listen.

Yes. The insane ones if they are actually facing God.

How many insane do you thing there are and if insane, for God to just chuck them into hell is quite immoral.

Regards
DL

 

[mazHur]

No Boss of an enterprise wants to see his concern run in loss. Why then blame God??

 

[mazHur]

lol Unlike Maz, you won't have that problem with me. I criticize all religions equally.

did I say anything about other religions?? I always said I believed in the Abrahamic religions and All it's Messengers!! If this acknowledgment doesn't appease any mouse pusher or a doubting Thomas, sorry but I can't help him more!!