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Speaking of polar bears- there's one commercial about them that really bothers me. They show the mom and baby on the ice chunk floating around and the mom swims off. The way the narrator is talking, makes it sound like she's abandoning him. He follows after he doesn't it? I mean, they do swim for fun, don't they?
 
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Speaking of polar bears- there's one commercial about them that really bothers me. They show the mom and baby on the ice chunk floating around and the mom swims off. The way the narrator is talking, makes it sound like she's abandoning him. He follows after he doesn't it? I mean, they do swim for fun, don't they?

Polar bears make me want to cry to tell you the truth... I feel helpless, my friend in the arctic said they found 6 drowned bears in the first two weeks of october this year. But that commercial speaks the truth. Mother bears are sometimes forced to abandon their young, because they are to weak to follow...they are also sometimes forced to chose one over the other, because there isn't enough food, they leve one behind to starve, and the stronger one survives. :(:(:(

The cub would have followed the mom, but would have either drowned, or swam back to the ice float to starve. Either way he most likely wouldn't have survived.
 

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Abriana said:
Well, that won't happen until the future. Were just barely seeing the effects of the carbon we put out 20 years ago, everything we do know will be effecting us later down the road. We have already done some pretty permanent damage (damage we will be feeling full blown in 5-10 years) and many of the scientists I have talked to don't seem to think we have much of a chance. I'm not going to quote anyone because it's off the record, but one of the scientists in the arctic thinks that the polar bears are going extinct from what we have done so far, and there is nothing we can do to reverse it.

The best and most consistent estimate I have gotten is 10 years. We have to stop all out-put of carbon within the next 10 years, or we don't have a chance of changing it.
Unless I am mistaken I saw reports that the Polar Bear population has increased
 

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Unless I am mistaken I saw reports that the Polar Bear population has increased

Last year it was briefly cooler, and their populations were healthier. But in the past 50, polar bears have gone from having an average of 2-3 clubs to an average of 1-0. The big problem with polar bears is that at a certain weight, mothers aren't able to even have cubs, so if they go for a few summers without enough food, they won't have enough weight to reproduce, and they will quickly go extinct.
 

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Last year it was briefly cooler, and their populations were healthier. But in the past 50, polar bears have gone from having an average of 2-3 clubs to an average of 1-0. The big problem with polar bears is that at a certain weight, mothers aren't able to even have cubs, so if they go for a few summers without enough food, they won't have enough weight to reproduce, and they will quickly go extinct.
Like I said the numbers are improving. So you can not just use the last 50 years as an example.

Let me ask you something. Pandas have been known to not have young in captivity very well. Can the same be said for Polar Bears?? I suspect not and if so this hysteria is a bit overblown about Polar Bears.

I know you have a passion and you are to be commended. But sometimes things get blown out of proportion. IMO
 

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Like I said the numbers are improving. So you can not just use the last 50 years as an example.

Let me ask you something. Pandas have been known to not have young in captivity very well. Can the same be said for Polar Bears?? I suspect not and if so this hysteria is a bit overblown about Polar Bears.

I know you have a passion and you are to be commended. But sometimes things get blown out of proportion. IMO

Numbers improving for one year, does not stop numbers from disaproving for 50 years. Consistent rates aren't constant, but they speak the truth.

And no, we have tried to raise polar bears in captivity and release them, but it doesn't work because they have to spend 2 years in the wild with their mothers, we can't send someone out with a polar bear cub for 2 years to teach it everything it needs to learn to survive, especially because we don't even know everything it needs to know.

Programs like that work for animals such as Panda's because they don't need to hunt, and they have an abundance of food.

Even if we could find away to raise a polar bear in captivity and release it into the wild, it still wouldn't fix the problem, which is not having enough food, and that's caused by global warming. We need to stop global warming, not add more bears that will end up dying anyways.
 
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