Execution

[All Else Failed]

You don't believe in an eye for an eye? A hand for a hand? It's the same principle only we're putting someone who's messed up in the head or did something really stupid out of the worlds misery. As long as someone who's done bad things is still alive they'll continue to do them.

Prison escapes, while rare, do happen. Last thing I want is a serial killer wandering around picking off people.

"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"

 

[Homer]

"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"

i'm sorry but that sounds really strang coming from you.

 

[Tim]

You don't believe in an eye for an eye? A hand for a hand? It's the same principle only we're putting someone who's messed up in the head or did something really stupid out of the worlds misery. As long as someone who's done bad things is still alive they'll continue to do them.

Prison escapes, while rare, do happen. Last thing I want is a serial killer wandering around picking off people.

Actually No, I don't believe in an eye for an eye. It's quite ridiculous to even think that it would work. If someone rapes your daughter, do you go and rape his? If someone steals your car, do you go and steal his? If someone kills another human being, do you then kill him? Even if it was the guy who pulled the switch of the electric chair?
This is the law that is practiced in the middle east. When my uncle worked in Iran many years ago, he told me of watching someone getting their hand cut off for stealing. It happened right on the spot, they took him, held him down and cut his hand off.

If your going to cherry pick laws from the bible to live by, make sure you don't forget to use all of them. We can stone people to death in the city streets for adultery, we can sell our daughters into slavery and we can take an eye for an eye. All of which were barbaric practices.

 

[All Else Failed]

i'm sorry but that sounds really strang coming from you.

Why?

It wasn't from me, it was from Mohandis.

 

[The_Rooks_Revenge]

Take from mine and I take equally from yours. The "greater good" means nothing in this arena. people make choices and those choices, if they harm another for no reason, should be punished.....equally. And I believe life can be taken from someone even tho they still live.

 

[dt3]

"trial by ambush" in which criminal intent was never proven

So he thought gassing his own population was good for them????

 

[dt3]

If they suspect that someone will kill again, IF they are released then they should be put under permanent house arrest with very limited freedoms of travel.

I'd rather see them killed than released to their homes. What the hell sense does that make? How is the state supposed to provide babysitters for these people??? If you're not gonna kill em, keep them in jail.

We think you MIGHT kill someone again, so we're gonna send you home. :wtf_anim:

 

[TripSevens]

So he thought gassing his own population was good for them????

I don't recall anyone making that claim.

 

[dt3]

I don't recall anyone making that claim.

You said they didn't prove criminal intent in his trial. I say how is attempted genocide done without criminal intent?

 

[TripSevens]

You said they didn't prove criminal intent in his trial. I say how is attempted genocide done without criminal intent?

Even the worst monsters deserve a fair trial.


As far as the attempted genocide, the U.S. itself claimed that it was unclear as to whether Iran or Iraq was responsible for the gassing. The state department long held the opinion that Iran was responsible, that is, until they a case was being built against Iraq and it was convenient to lay the blame at Saddam's doorstep.


Technically, Saddam was never tried or convicted for the gassing. He was convicted of having members of a Shi'ite group killed- even though the group had been planning his assassination.

 

[All Else Failed]

Take from mine and I take equally from yours. The "greater good" means nothing in this arena. people make choices and those choices, if they harm another for no reason, should be punished.....equally. And I believe life can be taken from someone even tho they still live.

That mindset it totally hypocritical.


"You murdered someone, and that is bad! So we will do the same thing to you but its OK!!!"

 

[All Else Failed]

I'd rather see them killed than released to their homes. What the hell sense does that make? How is the state supposed to provide babysitters for these people??? If you're not gonna kill em, keep them in jail.

We think you MIGHT kill someone again, so we're gonna send you home. :wtf_anim:

Killing solves nothing. If the murderer can be rehabilitated into a law abiding citizen that does not wish to break anymore laws then by all means we should take steps to set up something to make this happen.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Actually No, I don't believe in an eye for an eye. It's quite ridiculous to even think that it would work. If someone rapes your daughter, do you go and rape his? If someone steals your car, do you go and steal his? If someone kills another human being, do you then kill him? Even if it was the guy who pulled the switch of the electric chair?
This is the law that is practiced in the middle east. When my uncle worked in Iran many years ago, he told me of watching someone getting their hand cut off for stealing. It happened right on the spot, they took him, held him down and cut his hand off.

If your going to cherry pick laws from the bible to live by, make sure you don't forget to use all of them. We can stone people to death in the city streets for adultery, we can sell our daughters into slavery and we can take an eye for an eye. All of which were barbaric practices.

I don't cherry pick laws from an outdated over hyped inaccurate book.

I just wanted to know your thoughts on that philosophy. I honestly can't say I believe in it either because most of the time the punishment is as barbaric as the original crime. However, I'm a proponet of the death penalty for killers and serial killers. There is no need for these people to breathe.

 

[All Else Failed]

Again....killing someone back for killing is hypocritical. By your logic, the people that put him to death don't deserve to breath either, since they murdered him.

 

[Homer]

Killing solves nothing. If the murderer can be rehabilitated into a law abiding citizen that does not wish to break anymore laws then by all means we should take steps to set up something to make this happen.

i'm not even going to try lol.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Killing solves nothing. If the murderer can be rehabilitated into a law abiding citizen that does not wish to break anymore laws then by all means we should take steps to set up something to make this happen.

Find me someone who's killed more than once who's been rehabilitated and is now a productive member of society.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

I do. If someone can't be rehabilitated, yet still had the presense of mind to plan and execute a cold blooded murder. Why do they deserve to be alive?

How many of you would change your opinion if your best friend, daughter, wife, husband, son, grandparent, parent, or anyone else you're close with was murdered?

 

[Homer]

I do. If someone can't be rehabilitated, yet still had the presense of mind to plan and execute a cold blooded murder. Why do they deserve to be alive?

How many of you would change your opinion if your best friend, daughter, wife, husband, son, grandparent, parent, or anyone else you're close with was murdered?

thats a question i asked and didn't get an answer to , i wonder why.:confused

 

[TheOriginalJames]

I call BS. I'm not a violent person, I don't hold grudges and I get over things. But if my brother was suddenly gone, or my buddy was suddenly gone. I don't think I could ever forgive the person. Sitting in prison costing me money to feed them for life isn't my ideal punishment. I don't think I could sleep at night knowing someone like that is still alive and doing well.

 

[dt3]

Killing solves nothing. If the murderer can be rehabilitated into a law abiding citizen that does not wish to break anymore laws then by all means we should take steps to set up something to make this happen.

So now you're saying if they're sentenced to life for a heinous crime, but can fool people into thinking they're rehabilitated, you'd let them back into society?

So we can't kill em, and we shouldn't keep them in jail.

[sarcasm]Brilliant plan.[/sarcasm]