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[Dana]

well Id say Dana since you are a heavy drinker yourself it doesnt surprise me you think that way but you are wrong alcohol does kill brain cells, drugs just slow them down

The Claim: Alcohol Kills Brain Cells
By ANAHAD O'CONNOR

Published: November 23, 2004

THE FACTS When ancient Greeks wanted to reassure guests that their wine had not been spiked with poison, they toasted to good health. While that may be less of a worry today, there remain hazards from indulging in too much alcohol - including, of course, hangovers. But one thing people who drink socially probably don't need to worry about is sacrificing brain cells in the process.

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The research indicates that adults who drink in moderation are not in danger of losing brain cells.

The notion that alcohol snuffs out brain cells has been around for years. Many studies have linked drinking with mental deficits, and long-term damage from years of heavy drinking has been well documented. The developing brain is particularly vulnerable, some studies show, putting teenagers and unborn children at greatest risk.

But Dr. Roberta J. Pentney, a former researcher at the State University of New York at Buffalo, found that alcohol disrupts brain function in adults by damaging message-carrying dendrites on neurons in the cerebellum, a structure involved in learning and motor coordination. This reduces communication between neurons, alters their structure and causes some of the impairment associated with intoxication. It does not kill off entire cells, however.

A study in 1999 that examined the brains of alcoholics appeared to confirm this. Published in the journal Neuroscience, the research found that subjects who developed Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome, a severe disorder that ravages the memory and stems from a thiamine deficiency associated with alcoholism, had a marked reduction in cell density in the cerebellum.

But there was little difference between alcoholics who did not develop the syndrome and normal subjects, suggesting that it was largely a lack of thiamine in the Wernicke-Korsakoff patients that killed off their cells.

Other studies, including one published in The British Medical Journal in 1997, have produced similar findings.

THE BOTTOM LINE Alcohol may not kill brain cells per se, but it can impair brain function, among other things.

ANAHAD O'CONNOR

scitimes@nytimes.com

Does Alcohol Kill Brain Cells? | LiveScience


I've also heard it other places.

 

[Dana]

Does Alcohol Kill Brain Cells?

By Benjamin Radford

posted: 26 December 2007 05:05 pm ET
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If you've ever been drunk (or even tipsy), or seen someone who is, you know there's definitely some cognitive impairment going on. Reaction time, coordination, and speech are slowed. Judgment and decision-making abilities get a lot worse, sometimes wrongly convincing us that we are more attractive to the opposite sex—or that we can safely drive our car.

But is the impairment permanent or temporary? Some people believe that the consequences of drinking alcohol are far worse than a nasty hangover, that it can actually lead to brain damage because alcohol kills brain cells. During Prohibition, teetotaling temperance activists asserted this belief, citing it among the dangers of drink.

The truth is that the impairment is usually temporary, not permanent.

It is not the brain cells themselves but the nerve connections between them (called dendrites) which are most affected by alcohol. The communication signals are inhibited, thus slowing down mental processing and the central nervous system. But the brain cells themselves bounce back with no damage for the most part. Long-term alcohol use, however, is another story. There's plenty of research showing that sustained alcohol consumption can and does cause irreversible neurological disorders.

Does Alcohol Kill Brain Cells? | LiveScience

 

[Peter Parka]

Alcohol IS a drug and a dangerous one at that, think Dana is the one coming out with the bullshit excuses to fob off why he drinks so much. All drugs are dangerous to one extent or the other and I wont try and pretend otherwise. I just enjoy them as recreation, no different to people enjoying sports and activities which are dangerous too. You just have to be very aware of the dangers and know how to minimalise them. Here's something for you to think about, Dana.

 

[Peter Parka]

I see you've failed to notice that both those articles you posted Dana are talking about drinking in moderation. Getting drunk is not moderation which you seem to do on a fairly regular basis.

 

[AUDRAA]

ok I gotta back out of this thread you two fight it out sorry

 

[Dana]

Alcohol IS a drug and a dangerous one at that, think Dana is the one coming out with the bullshit excuses to fob off why he drinks so much. All drugs are dangerous to one extent or the other and I wont try and pretend otherwise. I just enjoy them as recreation, no different to people enjoying sports and activities which are dangerous too. You just have to be very aware of the dangers and know how to minimalise them. Here's something for you to think about, Dana.

Whatever... I'm tired of this thread already. Debating gets you nowhere. People are stubborn and have their preset opinions. Debates never convince anyone of anything and just make people pissed off. Go take your hardcore drugs and be happy.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

Here's my theory on drinking:

You are not actually killing brain cells, think of it more along the lines of culling out the weak ones, thus making the stronger brain cells more readily available.

It's like Mental Darwinism, survival of the fittest. Thinning the herd of old, outdated and boostin gthe young and fresh....

:ninja

 

[Dana]

Here's my theory on drinking:

You are not actually killing brain cells, think of it more along the lines of culling out the weak ones, thus making the stronger brain cells more readily available.

It's like Mental Darwinism, survival of the fittest. Thinning the herd of old, outdated and boostin gthe young and fresh....

:ninja

:24::24:

 

[Peter Parka]

Rofl! I'll take that as your way or realising you've dug yourself into a hole and are trying to save face while backing out spouting crap. Hardcore drugs? Yes mate I do, I drink alcohol the same as you. You enjoy your "hardcore" drugs too.:thumbup

 

[Dana]

I see you've failed to notice that both those articles you posted Dana are talking about drinking in moderation. Getting drunk is not moderation which you seem to do on a fairly regular basis.

I'm done.

 

[Dana]

Rofl! I'll take that as your way or realising you've dug yourself into a hole and are trying to save face while backing out spouting crap. Hardcore drugs? Yes mate I do, I drink alcohol the same as you. You enjoy your "hardcore" drugs too.:thumbup

Think whatever the fuck you want to.

 

[Peter Parka]

Here's my theory on drinking:

You are not actually killing brain cells, think of it more along the lines of culling out the weak ones, thus making the stronger brain cells more readily available.

It's like Mental Darwinism, survival of the fittest. Thinning the herd of old, outdated and boostin gthe young and fresh....

:ninja

I like that one! I usually use my copious intakes of strong scrumpy as my way of taking in my daily 5 portions of fruit and veg, its made from apples and the're fruit, right?

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

Rofl! I'll take that as your way or realising you've dug yourself into a hole and are trying to save face while backing out spouting crap. Hardcore drugs? Yes mate I do, I drink alcohol the same as you. You enjoy your "hardcore" drugs too.:thumbup

You did tell us recently that you were going off the drugs though, yes?

I'm not sure if that meant alcohol too, or just the grass etc..

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

I like that one! I usually use my copious intakes of strong scrumpy as my way of taking in my daily 5 portions of fruit and veg, its made from apples and the're fruit, right?

Hell beer/ale and cider...Practically a food group

 

[Peter Parka]

You did tell us recently that you were going off the drugs though, yes?

I'm not sure if that meant alcohol too, or just the grass etc..

Nah, it's the alcohol I'm going into rehab for soon. I told them honestly about my occasional use of cocaine and cannabis and they didn't see a problem with it. I never pay for cocaine anyway, far too expensive and to be honest, I'd rather have a pint.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

Nah, it's the alcohol I'm going into rehab for soon. I told them honestly about my occasional use of cocaine and cannabis and they didn't see a problem with it. I never pay for cocaine anyway, far too expensive and to be honest, I'd rather have a pint.

No more cider:eek


Man....you're not going to be pleasant for a while

 

[wednesday]

Peter...you actually posted that in the VIP thread...which is where it should have stayed i would have thought..no need to defend yourself in here.
Dana alcohol does kill brain cells...thats why im fick as shit boyo....bawahahahaha.
Oh n space cake rocks...and i totally annoyed people by giggling all the fooking time.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

Peter...you actually posted that in the VIP thread...which is where it should have stayed i would have thought..no need to defend yourself in here.
Dana alcohol does kill brain cells...thats why im fick as shit boyo....bawahahahaha.
Oh n space cake rocks...and i totally annoyed people by giggling all the fooking time.

He's not defending himself to me....We are chatting about a noble choice he is making

Now geet nekkid

 

[Peter Parka]

Guess that's why Dana likes it. Hey, Dana, maybe you're drinking it wrong or something! :jk

 

[wednesday]

He's not defending himself to me....We are chatting about a noble choice he is making

Now geet nekkid

I know im just saying...he doesnt have to defend himself here...
And totally a noble thing...has my respect.
No to nekkid..i have a new policy in effect.........

Guess that's why Dana likes it. Hey, Dana, maybe you're drinking it wrong or something! :jk

thats just damn mean Peter........but fooking funny:24: