Does monogamy really exist anymore?

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Peter Parka

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Well if thats your attitude, I can gaurantee that you well never experience true love. I happen to think you're talking shit so I won't take that as an insult.
 
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Its quite natural to want to rip someones head off or stab them to death when they make you angry but I'm sure you wouldn't condone that!

Natural for a someones whos....crazy! If i get angry, i see my own inability to remain calm, and figure it out, not someone elses stupidity.
 

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Well if thats your attitude, I can gaurantee that you well never experience true love. I happen to think you're talking shit so I won't take that as an insult.

I'm not trying to insult you, im just trying to say things that i feel go on everywhere, to most everyone, and everyone kind of slips it under the rug, or comes up with excuses to condone it. I only direct it at you, because right now, your another friend ive had this conversation with again, and again, somehow, we'll be laughing at something at the end.

As for finding that type of love, I'd rather look for that forever, then spend years and years in anything but. This is just me though, and all this is my way of figuring out why i find it to be this way. Because believe me when i say that ive thought this out for a long time, through many relationships!, lol, and further i get from the norm of relationships, the closer i get to that special someone who i know is out there
 

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Oh right, first I don't care, then I'm getting sloppy seconds from my wife and now I'm crazy, thanks!:wtf:

Not you, per se, but most people in general. Sorry for using you as the example, im probably wrong in your case, but if you think about it, is that not how it goes for most? and when i ask this same thing to many men and woman, you wont believe how many people never thought of it that way, mostly because they didnt want to be alone, and never be able to find someone like that. and none of them do anything about it either, haha, but think about it for a second, then pass on to the next thought.

Im sorry man, i really didnt mean to go towards you, let me reverse, i meant others, not you, but seriously, what do you think about the whole thing, why must people act in such ways?

again, really really sorry, i reread what i wrote, and i was on a rant, forgetting there was a human being in my way, sorry sorry
 

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Well I agree with you that it's better to be single forever than in an unhappy relationship but I don't see how my situation is different to anyone else in a relationship, its just the way some people act. We all have freewill but responsibility goes along with that. I believe in doing what you want if it dosen't hurt anybody but if it does then self control should come into play. If you hurt someone then you should accept that you will pay for it one way or the other back.
 

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ok, then (and i ask this kindly, not bad), would you think it ok to tell your wife when you look at other woman?, or do you refrain because it would hurt her? If you do think it would hurt her, i mean, at all, then should a person do it? Because I feel a person should be able to tell their Love whatever is on their mind, whenever, because you are two pillars of the same house
 

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My missus normally notices them before me! She's always pointing out some girl to me because she knows its the kind of girl I fancy!:D
 

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i think that on the majority, a person finds it ok to look at others, yet cannot help but feel mad when their loved one does the same, or puts themselves in their shoes, and tries to feel their thoughts. when hypocracy in the mind arrises, something has to be done about it. Either never get mad at your loved one for thinking sexually about someone else, or stop all together.

I think this is so true. It's natural to get jealous tho (if<---you love the person). However the extent of the jealousy is what makes the difference between being insecure or confident about the relationship.
 

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how else does a woman deal with such things? the only other reason they do it is because they are more towards the aesthetics of life then most men, i mean, how many men say, "hey, look how handsome or hot that guy is", i mean, on the overall, really
 

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I think this is so true. It's natural to get jealous tho (if<---you love the person). However the extent of the jealousy is what makes the difference between being insecure or confident about the relationship.

And my question is, does this even have to happen, at all? Does it need to take up any time of the day, or space in the mind? How many moments could be filled with grander things then this, how much mind space could be used towards the awe inspiring. And use the moments you have with your loved one as an animal that has fogotten its been caged, only to get set free
 

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Of course its natural to feel that way soemtimes. You'll probably not do it, but people just have those days.

The question of whats natural is always subject isnt it? Just because many, if not almost all, people do it, does not necessarily mean its natural....but for today? maybe.
 

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i think the feeling that most people feel (death being a less number), would be wanting to inflict pain enough for someone to say, "that felt like i got my head ripped off"
 

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And my question is, does this even have to happen, at all? Does it need to take up any time of the day, or space in the mind? How many moments could be filled with grander things then this, how much mind space could be used towards the awe inspiring. And use the moments you have with your loved one as an animal that has fogotten its been caged, only to get set free

My point remains, it's natural to get jealous at times.----->IF<---you love your b/friend, g/friend, husband or wife. You notice the stress I put on "IF". This is because if you don't really love your partner then it is much easier NOT to get jealous, because then it is insignificant to you.

"...does this even have to happen, at all?"

Jealousy is a feeling of emotion. Yes? We all have these feelings. It's quite natural (That is unless you are mentally incapable of it). It's a fact of life and to think it would not happen at some point or points in your life is just fooling yourself. Furthermore to wait until you find someone devoid of the emotion, I put it to you that you would be waiting until you are a very old man OR find someone whom you think does not have the emotion only to realize afterwards that they do.

However, while I say that it is a natural emotion I reiterate that to be obsessive so IS unhealthy and an indication that something is either wrong with the consumed person if the jealousy is unwarranted or something is wrong with the relationship itself that the other person gives just cause to warrant the jealousy by behavior.

On another note, some people are so insecure about themselves that jealousy becomes an obsession regardless if there is cause to so be. This is a hopeless situation for any relationship unless treated and resolved.

For a relationship to be healthy, notwithstanding the "normal" emotions or feelings that come into play there needs to be uppermost in one's mind a feeling of emotional security inclusive of love and TRUST.<-----Without which is a recipe for failure.
 

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Of course its natural to feel that way soemtimes. You'll probably not do it, but people just have those days.

No AEF. It is not natural to want to rip someone's head off or stab them to death when they make you angry.

Yes, it is natural to get angry when someone makes you angry but not to want to rip their head off or stab them to death.
 
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