Do Cartoons Count As Child Porn?

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Goat Whisperer

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I'm NOT saying that it's illegal coz it is sick.

I am saying that it is illegal because it completely breaks the law that people are not allowed view or make ANY TYPE of porn with ANY TYPE of child in it.

So it is illegal because it is against the law. Great, I understand that. What I want to know is why do you think it should be against the law? what is so bad about it?
 
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State Child Abuse Laws

In every state, the following people are required by law to report suspected abuse: Doctors; nurses; dentists; mental health professionals; social workers; teachers; day care workers; law enforcement personnel. In some states, clergy, foster parents, attorneys, and camp counselors also are required to report abuse. In about 18 states, any person who suspects abuse is required to report it.

Technically, since we have to report child abuse, we should all be arrested for not reporting Homer abusing Bart.
 

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Because it's porn with fucking children in it!

And those children aren't harmed in anyway before or after the making of the porn. They aren't real and no one seems to care.

Saying it has 'children in it' simply means: You find it sick. And you said yourself that isn't a good reason for it to be a law....
 

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Mat... i agree its sick..have you seen the new vid of "lazy town" ?....theres a girl of about 12 in it...people make funny and sick vids of her with sportacus..the main man.....now thats not even cartoon.!! Can you get arrested...no...its not child porn.
now someone needs to wind there neck back in cuz no matter how many of us think its sick...its a cartoon....its not better than strangulation, or carving ya next door neighbors cat up.....its still sick cartoon humor. If someone knocked on my door and said im sorry..your arrested, for animal neglect...you watched tom hit jerry with an iron...and laughed...
sheesh...
 

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Wow, no Wedzy, I honestly can't believe you.

I can't believe everyone who said it shouldnt be child porn.

And you can't come up with a reason as to why it should be, eith then it is 'immoral'

I honestly can't believe you all can be that stupid.

Because we think differently then you do?

Even when presented with a solid law stating that is clearly IS child pornography, you deny it is.

I know it's against the law, I just think it shouldn't be.


And wedz? Yes, pretty much thats it, it's legal to watch bart get strangled but it definitely is NOT legal to watch a child have sex, cartoon or no.

No, it is illegal. If bart counts as a child, like he does in this law, he counts as a child in the other one too. Why is it different?

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Eh, this discussion is going around in circles now. We should probably end it before it turns into a flamewar.
 

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It's not about the fact that people wank over strange shit, or whether cartoons cant be offended, ALL of that is completely irrelevant, the fact of the matter is that it is ILLEGAL to display minors performing sexually explicit acts in ANY porn movie, in this case, an animated one.

Except it isn't depicting minors having sex, its depicting people who dont exist, no one got exploited in the making of those pictures.
 

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Except it isn't depicting minors having sex, its depicting people who dont exist, no one got exploited in the making of those pictures.

IT DOESNT MATTER WHETHER THEY GOT EXPLOITED!

IT MATTERS THAT IT IS ILLEGAL TO VIEW SEXUALLY EXPLICIT IMAGES OF MINORS! ANY IMAGES, CARTOON OR NOT! FFS.
 

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It ALSO doesnt matter if I don't have a reason for why it is immoral!

It's the FUCKING LAW!

It does not MATTER IN THE SLIGHTEST what any of us feel about it, the LAW STATES that this is an ILLEGAL act and I CANT BELIEVE you are saying that the judge/jury was wrong.
 

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Also, take a look at the thread title.

"DO Cartoons Count as Child Porn?"

not

"Do YOU feel Cartoons count as child porn?"

The answer to the thread title is YES they do, under law, they ARE classed as child pornography. And what you think isn't gonna change that.

I cant believe you people are in here defending porn that contains minors.
 

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It ALSO doesnt matter if I don't have a reason for why it is immoral!

It's the FUCKING LAW!

It does not MATTER IN THE SLIGHTEST what any of us feel about it, the LAW STATES that this is an ILLEGAL act and I CANT BELIEVE you are saying that the judge/jury was wrong.

I can say what ever I want to say, this is America!

And the more people that disagree with a law the more likely it will change
 

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Also, take a look at the thread title.

"DO Cartoons Count as Child Porn?"

not

"Do YOU feel Cartoons count as child porn?"

The answer to the thread title is YES they do, under law, they ARE classed as child pornography. And what you think isn't gonna change that.

I cant believe you people are in here defending porn that contains minors.

I'm defending porn that contains pretend people.
 

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Um excuse me Mat, i am not defending porn of minors....i find that really insulting,..Im a mother.
I think someone needs to chill the fuck out a lil bit and realize he cant change the world...
 

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Since when do cartoons have an age assigned to them?

Maybe they've aged well and just look super young.
 

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Also, take a look at the thread title.

"DO Cartoons Count as Child Porn?"

not

"Do YOU feel Cartoons count as child porn?"
Joker, take a breath. The thread's evolved past the original question. Let it. The title asked a closed-ended question that's been answered. Are we to start another thread just because the conversation's moved beyond that?

Yes, we understand it's the law, it's the LAW, and it's the FUCKING LAW. We've heard and understood.

Clearly you agree with the law. Others don't. Can we continue the conversation with the question we've all (including you) transitioned into:

SHOULD Cartoons Count As Child Porn?
 
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