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KimmyCharmeleon said:
Pretty much what I've endured tonight. Thanks for being open-minded...
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I don't know what you're talking about tbh, my comments were just in general about debates, I keep posting in these threads and find out later that they're about something that happened and not just general questions :/
 
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KimmyCharmeleon said:
More like Trial by Tunnel Visionists lmao. Not worried about having thick skin though, the Tunnel Visionists naturally have it excessively on their head :)
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Any time someone starts quoting scripture or proceeds to tell you God did this, then that, and here is his rule for getting into heaven and this rule is as plain as day right there in front of you then it's time to back away or say screw it and launch into a unwinnable debate! :p
 
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My opinion - some people in this thread need to grow the fuck up. I've seen more sensible debate from 5 years olds. It's embarressing.
 
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sexysadie said:
You can spew all the nonsense you like, but it doesn't change anything, your closed mind is as obvious to me as mine is to you. The only difference is.....well.....what if you're wrong??
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This... :24:

Have you read some of the posts you made before posting the above?

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sexysadie said:
You can spew all the nonsense you like, but it doesn't change anything, your closed mind is as obvious to me as mine is to you. The only difference is.....well.....what if you're wrong??
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1. If Ed is wrong, he'll be cast down among the sodomites to burn, BURN for eternity I tell you!!
2. God will say "good show Ed for questioning my complete lack of presence. I've been distracted working on universe no. 22694 and can't be everywhere at once regardless of what you people think."
 
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Wow, this thread is still going.. Red must be in heaven collecting Tokenz.. :)

One person's opinion will usually not change another.. It's pretty simple..

A person has to be looking to be receptive to new ideas or else they really will rarely change their opinion based, especially, on someone else more than likely badly explained view on a subject..

That's my opinion on this topic and no one will change it.. :D
 
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edgray said:
It has been verified. Tested. Observed. It's as true in scientific terms as the existence of atoms.
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Not even close, but it's not a conversation I'm interested in.

edgray][QUOTE=Accountable said:
Believing that God and science are incompatible, even competitive, closes people's minds off to such ideas. I (and many) believe that God created nature. Anything we find out about nature is then attributable to God.
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If what you're saying is true, why is there a direct correlation between belief in God and not accepting evolutionary theory?[/QUOTE]If "believing that God and science are incompatible, even competitive, closes people's minds off to such ideas" is true, as you yourself agree, then how can such people do otherwise than to reject evolution or reject God??

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Whilst I'm pretty sure an educated man like Accountable does not believe in the creation myth, he's assuming that God created the universe and it's governing laws. So you see, with that belief he's closed of inquiry into what might actually be true.
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Such as what? Random chance? ...
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Random chance of what? The creation of the universe?

I've put some thoughts on the subject here: http://offtopicz.net/showthread.php?t=71826
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You start with a set of unproveable & silly (imo) premises, then base the rest of your post on them. Bad logical form, and not a word about random chance.

edgray said:
Firstly, we have our 100% failure rate at what God has actually done. At first we thought he made the weather, the seasons change and the tides come in and out. Then we were told he made life in his image, and made the Earth. We've been 100% wrong about everything he's supposedly done so far. Is it too much of a leap to think we're wrong about him creating the universe, in light of this 100% failure rate?

Next, we have the latest thought in theoretical physics: the idea of membranes colliding. This is mathematically working things out very nicely. And if there's one thing we do know, is that mathematics is the universe. A mathematical model constitutes more "proof" than an unprovable deity.

Thirdly, we have no evidence to say that he did create the universe.
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Who ever said that God is not mathematical? If, as I believe, God created the laws of nature, then everything that naturally occurred did so as an extension of His creation ... including the mathematics that make everything make sense.

edgray said:
I'm open to the possibility of the universe being created by someone or something. I'm open to any outcome because I know that I don't know.
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:24: No you're not open. Not even close. You argue against it like someone insulted your mom! :24:
 
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