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Can anyone please explain to me what good reason you could possibly have for taking a gun into a general shop anyway? Forget for a minute the argument about it being constitutional and your right ect, what possible good reason could you need to pop down the shops with it?:confused
So if someone else pulls a gun in the store, you're in a position to resolve the situation :dunno
 
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Sorry, those arn't good reasons at all. You're more likely to get run over on the way to the shop than need to use a gun on the way there in self defense! Any sensible answers?
 

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Sorry, those arn't good reasons at all. You're more likely to get run over on the way to the shop than need to use a gun on the way there in self defense! Any sensible answers?
You asked. You can't just say we're stupid.

Yes, it's a one in a million chance. But the one time it does happen, I would prefer to be in control of my own fate instead of leaving whether I live or die up to the other guy.
 

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Sorry, those arn't good reasons at all. You're more likely to get run over on the way to the shop than need to use a gun on the way there in self defense! Any sensible answers?
My boyfriend seems to think he has to carry a gun at all times even when he is off duty. He wants me to carry one too but I refuse to.
 

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Sorry, those arn't good reasons at all. You're more likely to get run over on the way to the shop than need to use a gun on the way there in self defense! Any sensible answers?

That's your opinion Peter.

Being run over is something you can't prevent, it's a freak accident. Walking into a store to find it's being held up with a guy with a gun is a situation that you can defuse. Now I'm only advocating this if you have the training to do so, and know exactly what your legal boundaries are. You have to assess the situation in seconds and be able to act appropriately. You can't just go in there and start shooting.

But I love having the ability to make a difference in such a situation given the right circumstances.
 

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That's your opinion Peter.

Being run over is something you can't prevent, it's a freak accident. Walking into a store to find it's being held up with a guy with a gun is a situation that you can defuse. Now I'm only advocating this if you have the training to do so, and know exactly what your legal boundaries are. You have to assess the situation in seconds and be able to act appropriately. You can't just go in there and start shooting.

But I love having the ability to make a difference in such a situation given the right circumstances.

If everyone walks around with guns there is a much higher chance that more innocent people are going to get shot, not less. I find it unbelievable that in a country where so many people don't even wear the seat belt in their car, which runs a much higher by far chance of resulting in avoidable death, the same people who won't wear seat belt think it's a good idea to carry a gun with them when popping down the shops! Crazy!
 

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If everyone walks around with guns there is a much higher chance that more innocent people are going to get shot, not less. I find it unbelievable that in a country where so many people don't even wear the seat belt in their car, which runs a much higher by far chance of resulting in avoidable death, the same people who won't wear seat belt think it's a good idea to carry a gun with them when popping down the shops! Crazy!
What percentage of American's don't wear seat belts?
 

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There are some legitimate reasons to have a CWP, concealed weapons permit. These would be people like managers who transport money to the bank, or people who live in high crime areas.
While I support the right for a law abiding citizen (no criminal record) to carry a weapon, I think there are those who go over board with it...

When I just got my gun, I have had quite a few people ask me if I was going to get a CWP. The answer is no. I do not have a need to carry one. I'm 40 years old and have never come across a time where I needed a gun on my person. I am not going to deal with the hassle of carrying a hunk of metal with me where ever I go. I would have to store it in my car anytime I went into a bank, drive into Philadelphia, go on school grounds, enter any federal building or courthouse. Then I would have to live with the fact that there is a loaded gun in my car and hope that someone doesn't break in and steal it. Plus I have to add in the fact that just the act of carrying a loaded weapon carries certain risks no matter how safe I am.

I am very responsible with my guns, I always have been and I'm responsible enough to know that carrying a loaded weapon every day carries more risk than me not having one. 40 years of not needing one... and I'm not paranoid enough to think that everyone is out to get me... so I don't need to carry one.
 

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I read this somewhere, I'll try and find the stats for you but the study I read was something like 40%. I've also noticed personally on here in other threads that Americans tend to be far more lax about wearing seat belts than we are over here.
 

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If everyone walks around with guns there is a much higher chance that more innocent people are going to get shot, not less. I find it unbelievable that in a country where so many people don't even wear the seat belt in their car, which runs a much higher by far chance of resulting in avoidable death, the same people who won't wear seat belt think it's a good idea to carry a gun with them when popping down the shops! Crazy!

You made two assumptions there:

1) How do you know if everyone had a gun on them that more innocent people would be killed?

2) How do you know that the same people who don't wear seat belts are the same people carrying guns? In the 6 years that I've lived here, I've only met one american that didn't like wearing her seat belt. And she was a ditzy sorority girl from Maryland University who was completely anti-gun.
 

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You made two assumptions there:

1) How do you know if everyone had a gun on them that more innocent people would be killed?

2) How do you know that the same people who don't wear seat belts are the same people carrying guns? In the 6 years that I've lived here, I've only met one american that didn't like wearing her seat belt. And she was a ditzy sorority girl from Maryland University who was completely anti-gun.


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You made two assumptions there:

1) How do you know if everyone had a gun on them that more innocent people would be killed?

2) How do you know that the same people who don't wear seat belts are the same people carrying guns? In the 6 years that I've lived here, I've only met one american that didn't like wearing her seat belt. And she was a ditzy sorority girl from Maryland University who was completely anti-gun.

1. Your gun statistics prove it.

2. I hear much more fuss from people here if I suggest they shouldn't carry a gun than if I were to tell them not to worry about seat belts. I just find it incredible the amount of hostility people express if you suggest carrying around something which has only one purpose, to kill, isn't such a good idea!
 

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1. Your gun statistics prove it.

2. I hear much more fuss from people here if I suggest they shouldn't carry a gun than if I were to tell them not to worry about seat belts. I just find it incredible the amount of hostility people express if you suggest carrying around something which has only one purpose, to kill, isn't such a good idea!
Cigarettes kill people. That's their only real purpose. And they hurt the people around them. But I bet you carry your smokes everywhere.
 

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1. Your gun statistics prove it.

2. I hear much more fuss from people here if I suggest they shouldn't carry a gun than if I were to tell them not to worry about seat belts. I just find it incredible the amount of hostility people express if you suggest carrying around something which has only one purpose, to kill, isn't such a good idea!

1) No they don't. Not everyone here in the US owns, nor carries a gun. It's not even a large percentage of the population that even own firearms.

2) Have you actually told people not to wear a seat belt here? Besides that, the hostility you receive is due to gun ownership being one of the rights given to Americans through the Constitution. And the Constitution is held in very high regard, and extremely dear to the hearts of Americans. You will receive the same hostility is you try to refute any other declaration in the US Constitution.
 

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Cigarettes kill people. That's their only real purpose. And they hurt the people around them. But I bet you carry your smokes everywhere.

Nope, their purpose is the're a drug which makes me feel relaxed and seeing I don't smoke in the home and am not allowed to by law in enclosed public areas, the only people my smoke affects are people who choose to be affected by them.;)
 

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1) No they don't. Not everyone here in the US owns, nor carries a gun. It's not even a large percentage of the population that even own firearms.

2) Have you actually told people not to wear a seat belt here? Besides that, the hostility you receive is due to gun ownership being one of the rights given to Americans through the Constitution. And the Constitution is held in very high regard, and extremely dear to the hearts of Americans. You will receive the same hostility is you try to refute any other declaration in the US Constitution.

I cannot really say anything to that other than stuff I've repeated time and time again so I wont bother. I'll just agree to disagree with you.;)
 

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Nope, their purpose is the're a drug which makes me feel relaxed and seeing I don't smoke in the home and am not allowed to by law in enclosed public areas, the only people my smoke affects are people who choose to be affected by them.;)
So what you're saying is this:

You carry around a dangerous item everywhere you go. If used improperly/illegally, it could be potentially harmful to everyone around you. But you choose to do it because you know you're mature enough to use them properly.

Sound familiar? :humm:
 

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So what you're saying is this:

You carry around a dangerous item everywhere you go. If used improperly/illegally, it could be potentially harmful to everyone around you. But you choose to do it because you know you're mature enough to use them properly.

Sound familiar? :humm:


OHHHHHHHH MOTHER FUCKIN WORD!!!!!! YOU DA MAAAN!!!! :willy_nilly::clap:24::rockon:
 
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