Conspiracy Thread..

[TommyTooter]

http://www.lennonmurdertruth.com/

http://www.john-lennon.net/whoauthorizedtheassassinationofjohnlennon.htm

the first link is to the fruitcake's site that says stephen king did it. the second one is to a site that is much more reasonable talking about FBI, other rogue government factions and a 'manchurian' assassin for a patsy.

 

[Minor Axis]

Yes and the Magic Bullet..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_bullet_theory

Neck tissue is soft. I find the single bullet theory to be plausible although that does not rule out conspiracy or more than one shooter.

 

[brieze]

no question population is an issue but people are living longer than ever which kind of indicates your hypothesis is unfounded I am afraid

My boyfriend believes the conspiracy theory about underpopulation. I agree with you though. But I do think chemicals and crap are in our food to make humans sick over time. Like AIDS. I wouldn't be shocked if it was man-made, but I haven't done enough research to believe either way.

Climate Gate anyone?

 

[All Else Failed]

9/11 was an inside job.

NWO.. I halfway believe and halfway hope I'm wrong.

No. It really wasn't.


Oh and guys it would be amazing if there was less people.

 

[brieze]

No. It really wasn't.


Oh and guys it would be amazing if there was less people.

Based on the evidence, I disagree with you.

 

[All Else Failed]

I've seen all of the so called evidence. Why evidence specifically?

 

[brieze]

Physics for one.

 

[Francis]

Physics for one.

Physics on 9/11.. I watched a TV show where they talked to the Architects that designed those towers and it was quite interesting to see what they had to say..

 

[All Else Failed]

Physics for one.

Yeah buildings collapse when their internal structure is greatly compromised. I'm not sure how this is a surprise.


Especially the way the Twin Towers were built. They basically did not have the traditional "skeleton"-like internal structure of most buildings. They utilized a new way of supporting the building that relied on a more "external" steel framework that is not as strong as the aforementioned steelwork. It goes up quicker and is cheaper though, that is mainly why they did it.

Physics on 9/11.. I watched a TV show where they talked to the Architects that designed those towers and it was quite interesting to see what they had to say..

I happen to know many structural engineers (some in my family) and they have said that any engineer can look at that collapse as see that it was not controlled at all.

 

[retro]

OK and the biggest thing that makes you believe so ( just curious ) ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Cobain

Not just one big thing really. Just the ones mentioned in that article. Plus I have watched a few shows on it. That said I very much doubt it will ever be proven conclusively.

Watch Kurt and Courtney... it's a documentary, and I think it fairly conclusively shows that there's a whole lot of things about Kurt's death that don't add up as a suicide.

 

[KLD1019]

I remembered this one the other night but forgot to post it..

The is a theory that the Lunar Landing was a Conspiracy and never happened..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories

Anybody believe this ?

:nod::nod::nod:

 

[All Else Failed]

Oh dear god


we landed on the moon


how can anyone think we didn't



There is far too much evidence that we did.

 

[brieze]

Yeah buildings collapse when their internal structure is greatly compromised. I'm not sure how this is a surprise.


Especially the way the Twin Towers were built. They basically did not have the traditional "skeleton"-like internal structure of most buildings. They utilized a new way of supporting the building that relied on a more "external" steel framework that is not as strong as the aforementioned steelwork. It goes up quicker and is cheaper though, that is mainly why they did it.



I happen to know many structural engineers (some in my family) and they have said that any engineer can look at that collapse as see that it was not controlled at all.

Eh, debate doesn't usually get me off. Agree to disagree?

 

[retro]

Eh, debate doesn't usually get me off. Agree to disagree?

Then don't bother posting in this forum? This thread is in "Debate"... don't want to debate, don't post where people are looking to debate.

 

[brieze]

I wasn't aware that philosophy is debate. But okay *waves*

 

[Alien Allen]

I wasn't aware that philosophy is debate. But okay *waves*

well this is philosophy and debate

 

[Zorak]

I wasn't aware that philosophy is debate. But okay *waves*

You weren't aware that philopsophy is a debate?

Plato disagreed with Socrates
Aristotle disagreed with Plato
Plutarch thus disagreed with Aristotle
Descartes disagreed with all of the above
Hume questioned Descartes logic
Kant discounted Descartes most famous saying "I think therefore I am" (Cogito ergo sum)
Habermas requalified Kant's logic.

It's all one big debate for thousands of years, unfortunatley.

 

[TommyTooter]

awright, is this a debate or a discussion?:kneelsuckers:

let's try on a few dictionary definitions for the ensuing discourse in dial-in dialectic, shall we?


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/debate

acording to webster, a debate is a formal discussion using robert's rules. who wants to moderate? :24:

 

[Francis]

Yeah buildings collapse when their internal structure is greatly compromised. I'm not sure how this is a surprise.


Especially the way the Twin Towers were built. They basically did not have the traditional "skeleton"-like internal structure of most buildings. They utilized a new way of supporting the building that relied on a more "external" steel framework that is not as strong as the aforementioned steelwork. It goes up quicker and is cheaper though, that is mainly why they did it.



I happen to know many structural engineers (some in my family) and they have said that any engineer can look at that collapse as see that it was not controlled at all.

This was the Architect that designed the towers..

http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/World_Trade_Center.html

My Physics point was more based on the theory of how fast the towers crumbled and some believe it was impossible for the domino effect to happen that fast without help from below..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1BLRpiRVnY

 

[All Else Failed]

God damn it why do they keep on talking about "melting" steel.


Steel does not have to melt to compromise a structure. It only has to be flexible enough to buckle under the massive amount of weight on top of it.