Considering some of the things you have said, probably more than you do.
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Pudding Time
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Well I have agreed that he has done bad things, and also mentioned that he's done good things. That's objective thinking.
You on the other hand will only admit that he's done bad things. Not very objective..
His bad far outweighs the good. A serial killer can rescue a kitten in a tree on his way to murder another victim, that doesn't make him a good person in any way.
Pudding Time
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I disagree with that.
Because you have no idea what you are talking about.
Pudding Time
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I'd say the same about you, but some people here get butt hurt when I speak like that. Lucky for you no one cares if this type of thing is said to me.
Yes you knew so much about what you were talking about that you tried to use castro's health care to point out something good he has done.
His great health care has been debunked so many times it's funny you even brought it up.
And who gets butt hurt over what?
I didn't realize you had the power to see who gets warned for what or what goes on in PM's??? :confused
GameCrazed
In Memoriam
Dude, why didn't he go for the full 50 years!?
I mean, come one, he's been running a shitty country and bein hated for 49 years, and then says, "Hmn, this sems long enough."
I mean, come one, he's been running a shitty country and bein hated for 49 years, and then says, "Hmn, this sems long enough."
All Else Failed
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Every country has done this.
You can have freedom under a communist regime.
I just think its lawl worthy that all of you get so uppity about the mere mention of communism like its the worst thing ever.
LOL !
All Else Failed
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The only reason why Cuba was doing bad is because of the U.S. backed embargos against them. Castro, then successfully ousted the Cuban president that was installed by the US, who was actually worse than Castro himself.
Castro got the Cuban people out of some of the worst conditions that were going on in the 1950's and before.
I'm not saying he is some leader that deserve rose pedals spread before him, but he isn't as bad as the US makes him out to be.
Castro got the Cuban people out of some of the worst conditions that were going on in the 1950's and before.
I'm not saying he is some leader that deserve rose pedals spread before him, but he isn't as bad as the US makes him out to be.
Sneakiecat
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I bet my Cuban side of the family is dancing in the streets right now.
Only because they came here. If they were still there, I don't think they'd dare to do that.
LMAO wrong again.
All Else Failed
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LMAO OK
Peter Parka
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I personally don't see how the US government can have a bee in their bonnet about Castro's human rights record when they only a few years back were happily supporting Saddam with a terrible record in this regard in his fight against Iran. The US seems only too happy that Casto allowed them to keep their base in Cuba too which has been handy for them recently so they can torture POWs there.
Seems much more obvious to me that their real problem was Castro taking their interests away and giving it back to the people of Cuba. I mean, the government was so pissed off about this that they even were in collutions with the Mafia about overthrowing him.
So what if he allowed the USSR to point nuclear weapons at the US there? At the same time the US were using their bases in Europe to point nuclear weapons at the USSR, this was the sort of stuff which was going on in the cold war. Other than that, I haven't seen any other way Castro has been a threat to the US. The hatred toward him seems so over the top to me.
Seems much more obvious to me that their real problem was Castro taking their interests away and giving it back to the people of Cuba. I mean, the government was so pissed off about this that they even were in collutions with the Mafia about overthrowing him.
So what if he allowed the USSR to point nuclear weapons at the US there? At the same time the US were using their bases in Europe to point nuclear weapons at the USSR, this was the sort of stuff which was going on in the cold war. Other than that, I haven't seen any other way Castro has been a threat to the US. The hatred toward him seems so over the top to me.
Pudding Time
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The hatred is also blind. I would bet that practically all those in here that have talked bad about Castro, don't have a clue about all of his history. They read really all the inhumane things he has done later in his career, and stop there. There's a word for this, but I'm not allowed to use it here.
castro was a far better option than batista,that man is said to have murdered and tortured more than 20,000 people,but i think he blew it when he got in bed with the soviets.
amnesty are currently looking at about 70 prisoners of conscience there at the moment ,many of them journalists..but having said that they are also looking at guantanamo,and for the same human rights issues ie torture as interrogation and being imprisonned without charge.
its the hatred toward che guevara ,i dont understand ,he did piss off the US when he became a minister in the sixties in cuba,nad thats what caused the blockade which is still on going.che is certainly a huge hero in africa after his work there,and certainly still in europe.at the time i can see why that was ,but i do think that we were more naive and ideological then,times change.
amnesty claim that its the blockade which ghas caused a lot of the harm done to ordinary cuban people,but thats what sanctions do in the long run.
id certainly put batista on a parr with sadam,mugabe etc
amnesty are currently looking at about 70 prisoners of conscience there at the moment ,many of them journalists..but having said that they are also looking at guantanamo,and for the same human rights issues ie torture as interrogation and being imprisonned without charge.
its the hatred toward che guevara ,i dont understand ,he did piss off the US when he became a minister in the sixties in cuba,nad thats what caused the blockade which is still on going.che is certainly a huge hero in africa after his work there,and certainly still in europe.at the time i can see why that was ,but i do think that we were more naive and ideological then,times change.
amnesty claim that its the blockade which ghas caused a lot of the harm done to ordinary cuban people,but thats what sanctions do in the long run.
id certainly put batista on a parr with sadam,mugabe etc
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